Sooner fan really looking forward to the game

[B81]

Nope.

The NFL will take players before their senior season. If a player can go early, they almost always do out of fear of getting injured at the college level and losing their payday. Oklahoma has placed plenty of underclassmen in the NFL. Here's a fact that may surprise you: If Nico is as good as Vols hope he is, he will probably be gone after playing just 2 seasons.

Bottom line, the data shows that SEC mid-tier teams had an average of 1.3 players better than the Big XII and one player isn't going to scare anyone.

Apparently they don’t teach math in Norman.

Obviously players leave early, also, some stay for 5 years. At any given time teams have multiple draft classes on the roster. As an example Arnold was on your team last year, so were your 3 players who were drafted last year. Arnold will eventually get drafted.

OU has 20-25 future nfl players on their team currently, while Kansas st has about 4.

I am sorry you are having trouble comprehending.

 

[DirtyDawg]

The SEC has been the toughest conference for about 15 years

I think the SEC has been the toughest conference since the BCS first started. I’m certainly not saying it’s had the best team every season since, just that it’s been the toughest conference most of these seasons.

 

[trj]

Hunh. Looks like I hit a sore spot.

You guys don't like it when we notice your little brother, Oklahoma State, and your rival Texas both did better than you over the last three years?

Hunh.

Go Vols!

As I've posted in other places, my congrats to
2021 Big XII champ Baylor Bears,
2022 Big Xii football champ Kansas State Wildcats,
and 2023 Big XII football champ Texas Longhorns.

Good luck to Baylor and Oklahoma State going forward in the Big XII. Maybe we'll meet up in the CFP -- wouldn't that be something!

Texas, prepare thyself for more RRS loses.

 

[trj]

Apparently they don’t teach math in Norman.

Obviously players leave early, also, some stay for 5 years. At any given time teams have multiple draft classes on the roster. As an example Arnold was on your team last year, so were your 3 players who were drafted last year. Arnold will eventually get drafted.

OU has 20-25 future nfl players on their team currently, while Kansas st has about 4.

I am sorry you are having trouble comprehending.

Just because a player was eventually drafted by an NFL team does not mean that player was performing at a "draftable" level during their whole college football career. In fact, players improve their skills by things they learn from their coaches and teammates, their football knowledge increases with game experience, and they usually develop physically too. All indications are that Arnold will be drafted in the future, but why would we count 2023 Arnold as a draft pick (or even 2024 Arnold for that matter)? He has only played a few snaps for Oklahoma, he has a lot of development ahead, and NFL teams are understandably reluctant to spend a precious draft pick on a freshman.

It sounds like you want to use a metric that gets at a team's composite talent. I'd suggest something like 247sports: link

 

[trj]

I’m happy OU fans stopped in.

The self promotion and humble bragging is duplicit and annoying. OU came here without NEEDING an introduction. How bout act like you’ve actually been there before? I’m starting to wonder if they have now…

I’m sure uT and OU will continue to have success. Even if it’s different than they are use to.

At this point though Im excited to welcome OU & uT but will enjoy seeing them lose in conference. Especially OU.

@TheGoodStuff, thanks for the welcome.

Personally, I've stopped by your wonderful message board to talk football (my favorite spectator sport) during the pre-season because I love the game and enjoy a lively conversation.

I too value humility. I wonder if you and I have a different take on what humility is though. To me, a humble person is a person that recognizes things as they are and makes honest assessments. In a funny verse from the Bible, Moses wrote that he was the most humble person in all the earth about himself. Now if humility means projecting a lowly self image, this verse is contradictory! But if true humility is simply projecting oneself with accuracy and without self-elevation, Moses could call himself the most humble person in the whole earth.

Now, in my hope for a lively football discussion, I've tried to have an honest discussion with some of my new SEC brothers and sisters about something I find fascinating. Why are so many people projecting Texas as SEC elite (top 3 or 4 in the SEC), and Oklahoma as destined to be 6th place or lower? That's just incongruous with reality as I know it, and it's a very interesting phenomena.

I hope I have not misstated any facts in my discussion points. After all, I am striving to be humble.

 

[B81]

Just because a player was eventually drafted by an NFL team does not mean that player was performing at a "draftable" level during their whole college football career. In fact, players improve their skills by things they learn from their coaches and teammates, their football knowledge increases with game experience, and they usually develop physically too. All indications are that Arnold will be drafted in the future, but why would we count Arnold as a draft pick at this point? He has only played a few snaps for Oklahoma, he has a lot of development ahead, and NFL teams are understandably reluctant to spend a precious draft pick on a freshman.

It sounds like you want to use a metric that gets at a team's composite talent. I'd suggest something like 247sports: link

I have posted the 247 talent composite on this thread.

Every metric we have shown proves the sec has significantly more talent form top to bottom yet you and your flat land brethren refuse to admit it.

 

[Volosaurus rex]

@TheGoodStuff, thanks for the welcome.

Personally, I've stopped by your wonderful message board to talk football (my favorite spectator sport) during the pre-season because I love the game and enjoy a lively conversation.

I too value humility. I wonder if you and I have a different take on what humility is though. To me, a humble person is a person that recognizes things as they are and makes honest assessments. In a funny verse from the Bible, Moses wrote that he was the most humble person in all the earth about himself. Now if humility means projecting a lowly self image, this verse is contradictory! But if true humility is simply projecting oneself with accuracy and without self-elevation, Moses could call himself the most humble person in the whole earth.

Now, in my hope for a lively football discussion, I've tried to have an honest discussion with some of my new SEC brothers and sisters about something I find fascinating. Why are so many people projecting Texas as SEC elite (top 3 or 4 in the SEC), and Oklahoma as destined to be 6th place or lower? That's just incongruous with reality as I know it, and it's a very interesting phenomena.

I hope I have not misstated any facts in my discussion points. After all, I am striving to be humble.

In the short term, nobody really knows what to expect other than the fact that the SEC has added two more traditional powers to its collective roster. With respect to my Big Orange brethren, it would be accurate to conclude that we are not simply a passionate fan base; we are a fanatically rabid and dedicated fanbase. Enjoy the novelty of the experience. We live in profoundly turbulent times, and this sport remains a badly needed diversion from discord and disturbing current events.

 

[LouderVol]

@LouderVol, that's flawed logic. Let's take 2012. Think about this:

In 2012, Texas A&M beat Alabama. But Alabama won the national championship. So is winning the national championship easier than beating Texas A&M?

Winning the national title, any title, goes beyond one game during the season. Works that way in pretty much every sport, ever. At least under the NCAA.

I would agree it's more difficult to go undefeated than to win a national title. But the argument wasn't that it was more difficult to defeat a certain team and or go undefeated than win a national title. Just that multiple SEC teams have won the national title, while being unable to win the SEC.

We may want to argue the semantics of "ease" but the results speak for themselves. No other conference managed to do it once, so for it to happen three times in the SEC says something is different about the SEC. And that difference is the challenge that you think because you play Baylor and WVU week in and week out you will be prepared to play Tennessee, LSU, Ole Miss week in and week out.

 

[LouderVol]

Apparently, history has been removed from all UT educational curriculums as it has zero respect as a measurable and predictive mechanism. As such I'm sure you will develop a hemorrhoid over the all time OU vs OSU football record of 90-18-7 all time. Sad as it is, predictably OU will lose to OSU every 5-years or so, or not.

so you agree all those conference titles, national titles, and heisman winners Oklahoma fans love to brag about in this thread have absolutely no bearing on their coming success in the SEC?

you know since history isn't a mechanism for measurables or predictions.

 

[TnScooby]

JMHO but I'm fairly sure EVERY game going forward between Okla & Tn will be a huge deal, if for nothing other than the Heupel factor..And it's always nice to have civilized conversations between fans of BOTH teams..But c'mon now, threads like these, started with language and a premise like fairdinkem used, isn't likely to promote such conversations..Vol fans are very protective of VN space here and have every right to be..Volnation has been, and continues to be, an excellent example of what a school's message board should be..Freak has ALWAYS made sure of that..Hell some schools require massive research to even find a message board attached to their school..So I'm sure I'm not alone in suggesting a dose of respect while posting here as a guest would go a long way towards accomplishing civilized banter, without establishing a he said/she said pissing contest in every thread/post..Every school has it's share of trolls..That's just the way it is..But Freak allows opponents' fans to post here as a COURTESY, and tolerates a whole lot of guff (more than I probably would)..The same courtesy would be appreciated in return..

JMHO..Carry on....

 

[B81]

@TheGoodStuff, thanks for the welcome.

Personally, I've stopped by your wonderful message board to talk football (my favorite spectator sport) during the pre-season because I love the game and enjoy a lively conversation.

I too value humility. I wonder if you and I have a different take on what humility is though. To me, a humble person is a person that recognizes things as they are and makes honest assessments. In a funny verse from the Bible, Moses wrote that he was the most humble person in all the earth about himself. Now if humility means projecting a lowly self image, this verse is contradictory! But if true humility is simply projecting oneself with accuracy and without self-elevation, Moses could call himself the most humble person in the whole earth.

Now, in my hope for a lively football discussion, I've tried to have an honest discussion with some of my new SEC brothers and sisters about something I find fascinating. Why are so many people projecting Texas as SEC elite (top 3 or 4 in the SEC), and Oklahoma as destined to be 6th place or lower? That's just incongruous with reality as I know it, and it's a very interesting phenomena.

I hope I have not misstated any facts in my discussion points. After all, I am striving to be humble.

I for one think OU will eventually do better than TX in the sec.Texas has done less with more resources traditionally, but Tx is coming into the league a little stronger. They made the playoffs last year, and have a lot coming back including Ewers. Ou on the other hand has a new coach who seems to be trending up, but has a new OC and QB. I love Venables as a DC, but he has yet to prove he is a great head coach. He is 0- 2 against ranked non conference opponents. History of your past coaches is meaningless now. Lincoln Riley has moved on and Switzer and Stoops are sipping coffee talking about the good ole days.

Best to wait and see instead of puffing out your chest.

 

[LouderVol]

Nope.

The NFL will take players before their senior season. If a player can go early, they almost always do out of fear of getting injured at the college level and losing their payday. Oklahoma has placed plenty of underclassmen in the NFL. Here's a fact that may surprise you: If Nico is as good as Vols hope he is, he will probably be gone after playing just 2 seasons.

Bottom line, the data shows that SEC mid-tier teams had an average of 1.3 players better than the Big XII and one player isn't going to scare anyone.

it probably should. or least give you guys enough to think about that you wouldn't come in here running your mouth about the SEC not being a problem worth worrying about. the SEC teams you are going to play on AVERAGE is better than the BEST teams you had played in the Big 12 in any season. when you guys face a tough SEC schedule, and I think OU has one of the toughest this year, that gap grows even bigger.

referencing last years draft for conference games:
OU played teams in 2023 that had: 3, 1, 1, 0, 2, 2, 11, 1, 1
OU plays teams in 2024 that had: 3, 5, 11, 5, 3, 6, 10, 6

you played teams with 22 drafted last year, over 9 games. 2.4 per team
this year you play teams with 49 players drafted, over 8 games. 6.1 per team

and that is with Texas skewing the average a HUGE amount. remove them and its:
11 players over 8 games for 1.3
vs 38 over 7 games for 5.4

and thats with you guys avoiding a top school like Georgia, and other schools like Florida and TAMU who produce plenty of talent.

its going to beat you up, and you just simply are too naive to understand the difference. to put it into context you can MAYBE understand, you are essentially going to be playing Texas every other week, and you assume you aren't going have any real problems with that.

In reality I think its something a lot of you guys know and understand; but are just unwilling to admit, and are hiding behind a brave face. if it makes you feel any better, the culture/talent shock that Texas is going to face is going to be even worse, even with an easier schedule than ou in '24.

 

[LouderVol]

I’m happy OU fans stopped in.

The self promotion and humble bragging is duplicit and annoying. OU came here without NEEDING an introduction. How bout act like you’ve actually been there before? I’m starting to wonder if they have now…

I’m sure uT and OU will continue to have success. Even if it’s different than they are use to.

At this point though Im excited to welcome OU & uT but will enjoy seeing them lose in conference. Especially OU.

just a friendly suggestion, may want to make it Ut. At least personally I don't take offense to them being a university, but them coming after our Power T is the real problem.

 

[Sooner Redzone]

it probably should. or least give you guys enough to think about that you wouldn't come in here running your mouth about the SEC not being a problem worth worrying about. the SEC teams you are going to play on AVERAGE is better than the BEST teams you had played in the Big 12 in any season. when you guys face a tough SEC schedule, and I think OU has one of the toughest this year, that gap grows even bigger.

referencing last years draft for conference games:
OU played teams in 2023 that had: 3, 1, 1, 0, 2, 2, 11, 1, 1
OU plays teams in 2024 that had: 3, 5, 11, 5, 3, 6, 10, 6

you played teams with 22 drafted last year, over 9 games. 2.4 per team
this year you play teams with 49 players drafted, over 8 games. 6.1 per team

and that is with Texas skewing the average a HUGE amount. remove them and its:
11 players over 8 games for 1.3
vs 38 over 7 games for 5.4

and thats with you guys avoiding a top school like Georgia, and other schools like Florida and TAMU who produce plenty of talent.

its going to beat you up, and you just simply are too naive to understand the difference. to put it into context you can MAYBE understand, you are essentially going to be playing Texas every other week, and you assume you aren't going have any real problems with that.

In reality I think its something a lot of you guys know and understand; but are just unwilling to admit, and are hiding behind a brave face. if it makes you feel any better, the culture/talent shock that Texas is going to face is going to be even worse, even with an easier schedule than ou in '24.

Oh I feel better now. If we are going to play like Texas every other week. We are 5-1 in our last 6 with them beat them last year. We’ve won 11-14 recently

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

so you agree all those conference titles, national titles, and heisman winners Oklahoma fans love to brag about in this thread have absolutely no bearing on their coming success in the SEC?

you know since history isn't a mechanism for measurables or predictions.

And what I love best is the guy that brought them their most recent Heisman trophies, rejected them, and moved to California!

And also, if you’re starting a freshman defensive tackle in the SEC holy crap you are in trouble

 

[LouderVol]

And what I love best is the guy that brought them their most recent Heisman trophies, rejected them, and moved to California!

And also, if you’re starting a freshman defensive tackle in the SEC holy crap you are in trouble

eh, there are rare talents that can do it. its one of those things, if its a tight position battle and the freshman is your best option, he plays anywhere, including places like Bama or Georgia. but if its simply no one is impressing and the freshman has the best future, or at least longest, and you have to play them, then that is rough.

hard to tell until the games start.

 

[DeusExMachina]

I'm just excited to announce that I WILL BE AT THIS GAME!!!!

If y'all see an idiot in a really cool mask in section 105 losing his mind, say hey or some ****.

 

[Sooner Redzone]

eh, there are rare talents that can do it. its one of those things, if its a tight position battle and the freshman is your best option, he plays anywhere, including places like Bama or Georgia. but if its simply no one is impressing and the freshman has the best future, or at least longest, and you have to play them, then that is rough.

hard to tell until the games start.

Brent Venables and Todd Bates ( Clemson DL coach before OU) know what they are doing. Both lean heavily on experience. Brent in commenting on starting the freshman said technique may be more important than at any position at DT. He said this kid coming from IMG and arriving in January has fantastic technique. He had a great camp. He’s beating out the starter from last year . Venables never starts freshmen. He must like him.

 

[trj]

it probably should. or least give you guys enough to think about that you wouldn't come in here running your mouth about the SEC not being a problem worth worrying about. the SEC teams you are going to play on AVERAGE is better than the BEST teams you had played in the Big 12 in any season. when you guys face a tough SEC schedule, and I think OU has one of the toughest this year, that gap grows even bigger.

referencing last years draft for conference games:
OU played teams in 2023 that had: 3, 1, 1, 0, 2, 2, 11, 1, 1
OU plays teams in 2024 that had: 3, 5, 11, 5, 3, 6, 10, 6

you played teams with 22 drafted last year, over 9 games. 2.4 per team
this year you play teams with 49 players drafted, over 8 games. 6.1 per team

and that is with Texas skewing the average a HUGE amount. remove them and its:
11 players over 8 games for 1.3
vs 38 over 7 games for 5.4

and thats with you guys avoiding a top school like Georgia, and other schools like Florida and TAMU who produce plenty of talent.

its going to beat you up, and you just simply are too naive to understand the difference. to put it into context you can MAYBE understand, you are essentially going to be playing Texas every other week, and you assume you aren't going have any real problems with that.

In reality I think its something a lot of you guys know and understand; but are just unwilling to admit, and are hiding behind a brave face. if it makes you feel any better, the culture/talent shock that Texas is going to face is going to be even worse, even with an easier schedule than ou in '24.

@LouderVol, thanks for this thoughtful observation.

Here's where my head is:

1) Since around 15 years ago, SEC top-tier teams have typically been in the AP top 5. They invariably meet Bud Elliott's 50% blue chip ratio metric, and they typically have 7 or more NFL draft picks each season.

2) Meanwhile, SEC mid-tier teams also produce NFL draft picks. This particular year, Oklahoma will face more upper-end SEC teams, later Oklahoma will face more lower-end teams. Using the 2024 NFL draft as an average, SEC's mid-tier teams produced around 1 more draft pick per team than Oklahoma's Big XII competition (2.9 per SEC team; 1.6 per Big XII team if you don't include outlier Texas).

3) Mizzu and Texas A&M left the Big XII and joined the SEC 12 years ago. Their results in the Big XII during the 12 years before the transition compared to their results in the SEC for these past 12 years are very similar: both teams went from a middle-of-the-pack Big XII team to a middle-of-the-pack SEC team.

4) In the past 5 years, Oklahoma's Big XII opponents played Oklahoma's new opponents from the SEC's mid-tier in 15 games (either bowl games or occ games). The Big XII's record in those fifteen games was 8-7-0 (0.533).

When I reflect on where the team is right now (Oklahoma is expected to have a very stout defense and an offense with unknowns surrounding the QB and OL), I feel like 8-4 or 9-3 is the most likely outcome for 2024, and that Oklahoma will trend up in subsequent years.

I agree that Oklahoma will have more "must-see" games in the SEC (one of the driving factors behind the realignment). I think Oklahoma will have a lot of tough games, and I think they will win the majority of them.

Over the next 5 years, I expect a mid-tier SEC with the following teams: Texas A&M, Mizzu, Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas, LSU, Florida and either Kentucky or Arkansas.

Over that same 5 years, I think Oklahoma along with Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee will rise to the top.

 

[Proud Army Wife]

@TheGoodStuff, thanks for the welcome.

Personally, I've stopped by your wonderful message board to talk football (my favorite spectator sport) during the pre-season because I love the game and enjoy a lively conversation.

I too value humility. I wonder if you and I have a different take on what humility is though. To me, a humble person is a person that recognizes things as they are and makes honest assessments. In a funny verse from the Bible, Moses wrote that he was the most humble person in all the earth about himself. Now if humility means projecting a lowly self image, this verse is contradictory! But if true humility is simply projecting oneself with accuracy and without self-elevation, Moses could call himself the most humble person in the whole earth.

Now, in my hope for a lively football discussion, I've tried to have an honest discussion with some of my new SEC brothers and sisters about something I find fascinating. Why are so many people projecting Texas as SEC elite (top 3 or 4 in the SEC), and Oklahoma as destined to be 6th place or lower? That's just incongruous with reality as I know it, and it's a very interesting phenomena.

I hope I have not misstated any facts in my discussion points. After all, I am striving to be humble.

The media can’t help themselves but to hype up Texas, same way they do Miami. Aside from last year they haven’t been an elite team since 2005. They have talent but not to the level of UGA or Bama. I’m expecting them to be a mid team most of the time.

 

[LouderVol]

@LouderVol, thanks for this thoughtful observation.

Here's where my head is:

1) Since around 15 years ago, SEC top-tier teams have typically been in the AP top 5. They invariably meet Bud Elliott's 50% blue chip ratio metric, and they typically have 7 or more NFL draft picks each season.

2) Meanwhile, SEC mid-tier teams also produce NFL draft picks. This particular year, Oklahoma will face more upper-end SEC teams, later Oklahoma will face more lower-end teams. Using the 2024 NFL draft as an average, SEC's mid-tier teams produced around 1 more draft pick per team than Oklahoma's Big XII competition (2.9 per SEC team; 1.6 per Big XII team if you don't include outlier Texas).

3) Mizzu and Texas A&M left the Big XII and joined the SEC 12 years ago. Their results in the Big XII during the 12 years before the transition compared to their results in the SEC for these past 12 years are very similar: both teams went from a middle-of-the-pack Big XII team to a middle-of-the-pack SEC team.

4) In the past 5 years, Oklahoma's Big XII opponents played Oklahoma's new opponents from the SEC's mid-tier in 15 games (either bowl games or occ games). The Big XII's record in those fifteen games was 8-7-0 (0.533).

When I reflect on where the team is right now (Oklahoma is expected to have a very stout defense and an offense with unknowns surrounding the QB and OL), I feel like 8-4 or 9-3 is the most likely outcome for 2024, and that Oklahoma will trend up in subsequent years.

I agree that Oklahoma will have more "must-see" games in the SEC (one of the driving factors behind the realignment). I think Oklahoma will have a lot of tough games, and I think they will win the majority of them.

Over the next 5 years, I expect a mid-tier SEC with the following teams: Texas A&M, Mizzu, Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas, LSU, Florida and either Kentucky or Arkansas.

Over that same 5 years, I think Oklahoma along with Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee will rise to the top.

Ok assuming you play the worst teams in the SEC at producing NFL talent OU would still face:
TAMU 4, Kentucky 3, Mississippi State 3, Ole Miss 3, Tennessee 3, Arkansas 2, Florida 1, Vandy 0. 19 is the least you COULD play.

facing the top 8 in the Old Big 12 OU would face:
Texas 11, TCU 3, KSU 3, Texas Tech 2, UCF 2, Kansas 2, WVU 1, ISU, 1. 25 is the MOST you could play in the Big 12. and thats WITH Texas skewing the numbers for the Big 12.

The very WORST of the SEC would put up 2.3 players
the very BEST of the Big would put up 3.1 players per game.

if you thought 1.6 on average for the SEC was no big deal, than half that difference, .8, between the best Big 12, and the worst of the SEC would be even more negligible. by your own argument the difference between our worst, and your best is negligible.

me, I think it matters, but I also know that no one will EVER face that much of an SEC cakewalk. Texas probably has the easiest SEC schedule this year, and they will be facing 24 NFL draft worthy players under the model above. which is more than Texas could have faced in the Big 12, and would be only 2 short of what the Big 12 could offer MAX including themselves. our bottom is equivalent to your top.

 

[OrangeRaid Vol #1]

We don't give a damn about the whole state of Oklahoma, the whole state of Oklahoma, We don't give a damn about the whole state of Oklahoma, the whole state of Oklahoma. We're from TENNESSEE. Welcome to the SEC

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

Brent Venables and Todd Bates ( Clemson DL coach before OU) know what they are doing. Both lean heavily on experience. Brent in commenting on starting the freshman said technique may be more important than at any position at DT. He said this kid coming from IMG and arriving in January has fantastic technique. He had a great camp. He’s beating out the starter from last year . Venables never starts freshmen. He must like him.

So now the starting DT Fr is from IMG ?

 

[Volosaurus rex]

@LouderVol, thanks for this thoughtful observation.

Here's where my head is:

1) Since around 15 years ago, SEC top-tier teams have typically been in the AP top 5. They invariably meet Bud Elliott's 50% blue chip ratio metric, and they typically have 7 or more NFL draft picks each season.

2) Meanwhile, SEC mid-tier teams also produce NFL draft picks. This particular year, Oklahoma will face more upper-end SEC teams, later Oklahoma will face more lower-end teams. Using the 2024 NFL draft as an average, SEC's mid-tier teams produced around 1 more draft pick per team than Oklahoma's Big XII competition (2.9 per SEC team; 1.6 per Big XII team if you don't include outlier Texas).

3) Mizzu and Texas A&M left the Big XII and joined the SEC 12 years ago. Their results in the Big XII during the 12 years before the transition compared to their results in the SEC for these past 12 years are very similar: both teams went from a middle-of-the-pack Big XII team to a middle-of-the-pack SEC team.

4) In the past 5 years, Oklahoma's Big XII opponents played Oklahoma's new opponents from the SEC's mid-tier in 15 games (either bowl games or occ games). The Big XII's record in those fifteen games was 8-7-0 (0.533).

When I reflect on where the team is right now (Oklahoma is expected to have a very stout defense and an offense with unknowns surrounding the QB and OL), I feel like 8-4 or 9-3 is the most likely outcome for 2024, and that Oklahoma will trend up in subsequent years.

I agree that Oklahoma will have more "must-see" games in the SEC (one of the driving factors behind the realignment). I think Oklahoma will have a lot of tough games, and I think they will win the majority of them.

Over the next 5 years, I expect a mid-tier SEC with the following teams: Texas A&M, Mizzu, Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas, LSU, Florida and either Kentucky or Arkansas.

Over that same 5 years, I think Oklahoma along with Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee will rise to the top.

We need to keep Florida saddled with mediocre coaches and, preferably, with FSU strong as a buffer. The Reptilian Horde have too much of a natural recruiting advantage, given the state's population and the quality of high school football there. If you hang around long enough, it will be interesting to see if Florida fans remind you profoundly of Tejas fans.

 

[Sooner Redzone]

So now the starting DT Fr is from IMG ?

He’s always been from IMG. As an OU commit watched several of his games on TV. WTH?