Sound of Freedom

#76
#76
@taylorvol is 100% correct. There are no politics at all in the movie. It’s not overly religious either. I think I heard the word “God” four times, mostly referencing “God’s children aren’t for sale”. The movie was excellent. Very heavy. It will definitely raise awareness. It’s a must see.

@n_huffhines …go watch it then come back and argue.
 
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SycloneJoe said:
@taylorvol is 100% correct. There are no politics at all in the movie. It’s not overly religious either. I think I heard the word “God” four times, mostly referencing “God’s children aren’t for sale”. The movie was excellent. Very heavy. It will definitely raise awareness. It’s a must see.

@n_huffhines …go watch it then come back and argue.
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Thank you @SycloneJoe for your feedback and taking the time to watch the movie vs allowing the media and other small minded folks to turn it into something political. How can anyone be against a movie about protecting innocent children???
 
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n_huffhines said:
You're not making much sense. I'm critical of the person and the org. I am only tangentally critical of the movie. My only comment about the movie was to say I'd have trouble suspending my disbelief, but you want to point out this meaningless technicality that I have commented on the movie. Cool waste of time. Go waste somebody else's.
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The only waste of time are your posts about a movie that you haven’t even seen.
 
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SycloneJoe said:
@taylorvol is 100% correct. There are no politics at all in the movie. It’s not overly religious either. I think I heard the word “God” four times, mostly referencing “God’s children aren’t for sale”. The movie was excellent. Very heavy. It will definitely raise awareness. It’s a must see.

@n_huffhines …go watch it then come back and argue.
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You're not addressing anything I'm talking about. No links to support claims. I don't care if the movie references God or politics.
 
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taylorvol said:
Way to bring trash politics into an issue that has NOTHING to do with right/left, republicans/democrats, gay/straight, etc. None of this crap is in the film.
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I wish it didn’t. Unfortunately the extreme right has tried to co-opt it in a very rotomantade way.

Serious people know it is a problem and look past politics to address it. Less serious people use it as an excuse to attack political opponents.

The latter hurts the cause.
 
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SycloneJoe said:
You can start your search here…
Human Trafficking | Homeland Security
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Burying the lead ^

You guys deserve a BS artist like Ballard. How hard is it to support true claims? You're putting me on a treasure hunt. I can find stats about the existence of trafficking on my own. I just want support specifically for the OP. The post you said was 100% true.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Burying the lead ^

You guys deserve a BS artist like Ballard. How hard is it to support true claims? You're putting me on a treasure hunt. I can find stats about the existence of trafficking on my own. I just want support specifically for the OP. The post you said was 100% true.
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I posted 4 times with data and information about human trafficking and forced labor. I thought that was sufficient and definitely not a treasure hunt. I noticed you failed to quote any of those more specific links. That speaks volumes about your interest being more about arguing and less about learning truth from fiction.

Go read my comments again…I never said the information provided by Ballard was, or was not factual. I had never heard of Ballard or his organization prior to this movie. I know there’s controversy but I also know there’s video evidence and Congressional testimony that support many of his claims. You did bring up the actor portraying Ballard and his personal views, which is irrelevant to the film. You’d know that if you actually went to see the movie.

I DID say that human trafficking and forced labor 100% exists, internationally and domestically. The links I provided for you above show that. The information I shared and more is included in my annual training.

BTW…the movie, as most movies like this are, is “based on true events”. Some of the names and events were altered for the film but the film makers are very transparent about it. Everything they changed and why is listed on their website.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
While you are right you should see some of the clips from the MSM networks trashing not only the film but actor Jim Caviezel as well.
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I have no desire to see how small minded people and/or media attempt to undermine a film about bringing awareness to child trafficking. It’s despicable.
 
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taylorvol said:
I have no desire to see how small minded people and/or media attempt to undermine a film about bringing awareness to child trafficking. It’s despicable.
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I'm trying to understand what has huff huffing and puffing. Lulz.

If I'm on the right track I'd ask what is benefitting from the awareness? I mean, now that you're more aware how are you going to put that into some type of use? Is part of huffs point that after watching this move and becoming more aware, many uneducated people on the subject, like me, might be moved to donate to an organization that might be doing more harm than good?

Just asking.
 
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Behr said:
I'm trying to understand what has huff huffing and puffing. Lulz.

If I'm on the right track I'd ask what is benefitting from the awareness? I mean, now that you're more aware how are you going to put that into some type of use? Is part of huffs point that after watching this move and becoming more aware, many uneducated people on the subject, like me, might be moved to donate to an organization that might be doing more harm than good?

Just asking.
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If a portion of the more aware public does the following, it’s super beneficial:
1) be more informed about protecting their kids from potential abuse (ie monitoring online apps)
2) telling and informing others of child trafficking being a $150B industry and to protect their kids
3) potentially volunteering or donating to a legitimate and credible non-profit that supports efforts to end child trafficking (I personally donate to Child Rescue Coalition).
 
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Behr said:
I'm trying to understand what has huff huffing and puffing. Lulz.

If I'm on the right track I'd ask what is benefitting from the awareness? I mean, now that you're more aware how are you going to put that into some type of use? Is part of huffs point that after watching this move and becoming more aware, many uneducated people on the subject, like me, might be moved to donate to an organization that might be doing more harm than good?

Just asking.
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Here’s a tool to vet the legitimacy and credibility of non-profits and the rating of the one that I’m familiar with and have been supporting for several years.

Charity Navigator - Rating for Child Rescue Coalition Inc.
 
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#95
Cool.

I think I see huffs point, though I don't know why he attacked it the way he did except to get the reaction that he got.

I look forward to seeing the movie. Good or bad I'm one of the few here that just watches movies for entertainment and 99% of the time don't really care about the "politics" for lack of a better term, of it or those that star in or produce them... If I did there aren't many movies I'd watch.
 
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#96
The left hates this movie and is going out of its way to trash it. There’s a big movie reviewer that slammed this movie but gave glowing reviews of that child exploration movie Cutiez that caused an uproar on Netflix a few years ago. This a battle between good and evil.
 
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Behr said:
I'm trying to understand what has huff huffing and puffing. Lulz.

If I'm on the right track I'd ask what is benefitting from the awareness? I mean, now that you're more aware how are you going to put that into some type of use? Is part of huffs point that after watching this move and becoming more aware, many uneducated people on the subject, like me, might be moved to donate to an organization that might be doing more harm than good?

Just asking.
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Huff is the puzzle that argues with you about your true intentions the entire process. 😏
 
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SycloneJoe said:
I posted 4 times with data and information about human trafficking and forced labor. I thought that was sufficient and definitely not a treasure hunt. I noticed you failed to quote any of those more specific links. That speaks volumes about your interest being more about arguing and less about learning truth from fiction.

Go read my comments again…I never said the information provided by Ballard was, or was not factual. I had never heard of Ballard or his organization prior to this movie. I know there’s controversy but I also know there’s video evidence and Congressional testimony that support many of his claims. You did bring up the actor portraying Ballard and his personal views, which is irrelevant to the film. You’d know that if you actually went to see the movie.

I DID say that human trafficking and forced labor 100% exists, internationally and domestically. The links I provided for you above show that. The information I shared and more is included in my annual training.

BTW…the movie, as most movies like this are, is “based on true events”. Some of the names and events were altered for the film but the film makers are very transparent about it. Everything they changed and why is listed on their website.
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I already explained to you that I can find stats about trafficking on my own. I even did, and shared them. The existence of trafficking was never in question. All I wanted was support for these quotes, which you totally failed to provide. Someone was earnestly searching for the truth. You gave him an unsupported answer. I earnestly asked you for support of these claims. You just gave me the runaround, and you were a smartass about it. You can reply to this, but you are already on ignore because you have repeatedly proven to be a complete time-waster. I don't even dispute the first bolded part, unless he was saying US children, which is why I asked for clarification and support, which you jokers never provided.

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I hate to break it to you, but innocent children are being kidnapped and bought and sold on the black market every day. This isn’t “make believe“ or fiction or a movie script—-it’s a hard sad fact. I’ve seen a demo where the globe lights up slowly with dots only to find out that the dots represent where child abuse sexual material (fka as child porn) was downloaded. It was sobering and absolutely sickening.
This film isn’t about Ballard or other flawed persons—it’s about trying to bring awareness to a global epidemic. There’s more slaves today than anytime in our history. It’s pathetic.
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EasternVol said:
Is all that proven? Could this be like the day care centers years ago that were all over the country and satanic and sexually abusing kids by the boatload, until it was proven to be mass hysteria? Or maybe marketing a much exaggerated story is a good way to make money?
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SycloneJoe said:
I'm a licensed foster parent and I work with youth. I can tell you that it's 100% a reality.
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#99
#99
davethevol said:
The left hates this movie and is going out of its way to trash it. There’s a big movie reviewer that slammed this movie but gave glowing reviews of that child exploration movie Cutiez that caused an uproar on Netflix a few years ago. This a battle between good and evil.
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Cutiez was also a movie making a point about exploiting children (which I did not see either). The mob never understood that because all they could see was red from the misinformation campaign. Remember when people thought there was child nudity in it? That was "true" for at least a few weeks, and I bet half of you still believe it.
 
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#100
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Behr said:
I'm trying to understand what has huff huffing and puffing. Lulz.

If I'm on the right track I'd ask what is benefitting from the awareness? I mean, now that you're more aware how are you going to put that into some type of use? Is part of huffs point that after watching this move and becoming more aware, many uneducated people on the subject, like me, might be moved to donate to an organization that might be doing more harm than good?

Just asking.
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You become aware so you can give money to organizations fighting it. You should also be aware of the flaws of the organizations you might be giving to, which is the part missing from the movie and this thread until I added it. Suddenly, awareness isn't so desirable, but people shouldn't be hiding from these truths. If you really wanna help, it's good to do your due diligence. Maybe you find out despite these flaws, this is still the best org to give to, and that's a good result.
 
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