Southern Miss to receive notice of allegations next week

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It would seem others interpret it simarly....from The Sun Herald...

The NCAA alleges that the Southern Miss men's basketball program, under the direction of former coach Donnie Tyndall, committed multiple rules violations including academic misconduct on the behalf of prospective athletes and improper financial aid.

Southern Miss released Friday a 43-page Notice of Allegations from the NCAA that includes seven Level 1 violations against Tyndall and his staff at USM.

The report also alleges that Tyndall obstructed the investigation into his 2012-14 stint as head coach at USM.

Tyndall is the clear target of the allegations with USM facing no charges of lack of institutional control or failure to monitor the men's basketball program.

Tyndall was hired at Tennessee in 2014, but was fired in March after the school was made aware of details of the NCAA's investigation of the USM program.

A Friday statement from USM describes the alleged infractions as "serious misconduct" by Tyndall and members his staff at USM.

"The University understands the serious nature of the allegations and has worked collaboratively with the NCAA in reviewing this matter since last fall," the statement from USM said. "We will continue to fully cooperate with the NCAA through the remainder of the administrative process, which we do not expect to conclude before Spring 2016."

The names of coaches and student-athletes involved in the investigation are redacted from the report, but the term "Former MBB HC" (Former men's basketball head coach) showed up repeatedly in the notice.

The notice paints the picture of Tyndall calling the shots for a corrupt USM men's basketball program.

One segment of the report says that a former USM assistant admitted that Tyndall paid for two student-athletes' year of residence using cash and prepaid cards from the head coach's own personal funds.

It also alleges that Tyndall tried to cover that up by speaking with the student-athletes during the course of the investigation using burner phones as well as a cell phone maintained in his mother's name.

The NCAA alleges that Tyndall told the student-athletes to stick to their story that they had paid for their own years of residence.

The academic misconduct allegations involve Tyndall and his staff arranging "fraudulent academic credit" through online coursework for seven prospective players.

The NCAA also alleges that Tyndall paid for the online courses for one prospective student-athlete.

Five of those players, who were not identified in the report, later played at Southern Miss.

The NCAA report also said that Tyndall arranged impermissible financial aid for players who had yet to qualify to compete.

A total of $6,000 in prepaid cards was given to one player and another $2,000 in prepaid cards was given to a different player.

One student-athlete in the report says that he received cash and prepaid debit cards through the men's basketball office to make payments on his student account at USM, and that a USM staff member accompanied him to the business office to ensure the funds were used to pay the balance on his account.

The report says that a student-athlete's former high school basketball coach sent thousands of dollars in prepaid cards and cash to the men's basketball office to assist with making payments for the player.

The NCAA also alleges that Tyndall violated rules by deleting pertinent emails and providing false or misleading information to the enforcement staff and the institution. He also obstructed by contacting some of the student-athletes and coaches interviewed by the NCAA.

Read more here: NCAA charges Donnie Tyndall with multiple rules violations during time at USM | Southern Miss | The Sun Herald
 
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vol66 said:
The report says on page 4 that Tyndall paid for the online courses for one perspective student athlete.

Now, you can focus on the money if you want, but my opinion is one needs to think about the system Tyndall was using to get kids that many schools would have loved to have taken but could not. He is asking everyone around him to compromise and almost all of them are now out of college basketball.
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Not that it really matters when it comes to punishment or guilt but I refuse to believe CDT paid for all of this without a $ guy funding these acts.


Regardless this is a fascinating story that I am afraid opens up a can of worms for other kids and the practice of taking online classes to gain eligibility.
 
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BruinVol said:
Not that it really matters when it comes to punishment or guilt but I refuse to believe CDT paid for all of this without a $ guy funding these acts.


Regardless this is a fascinating story that I am afraid opens up a can of worms for other kids and the practice of taking online classes to gain eligibility.
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Online courses are an approved method of gaining eligibility. Lamonte Turner is probably engaged in one at this moment. Difference would be that his family is paying for it. (hopefully)
 
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calban said:
Online courses are an approved method of gaining eligibility. Lamonte Turner is probably engaged in one at this moment. Difference would be that his family is paying for it. (hopefully)
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Sure but where does the line get drawn on who does the work???

I am afraid the NCAA is going to realize that in too many cases the kid isn't doing all the work and decides to no longer accept these classes
 
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Thanks for the info 66.

I'd say a $$ man is just about guaranteed here. Some bball junkie with more money than sense, in or around Hattiesburg.
 
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Lefteye said:
Thanks for the info 66.

I'd say a $$ man is just about guaranteed here. Some bball junkie with more money than sense, in or around Hattiesburg.
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I think we now know who SD really is. He's the money man. The story about him being some retired drill sergeant/chemist that worked at Home Depot was the cover story; he's actually the world's most interesting man . :)
 
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Lefteye said:
Thanks for the info 66.

I'd say a $$ man is just about guaranteed here. Some bball junkie with more money than sense, in or around Hattiesburg.
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Every program has boosters that handle practices such as this to aid athletic departments. It's how shady things get done without the headman having blood directly on his hands. In this case, his trusted men flipped on him and Tyndall was linked to all shady activities.
 
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jknox33 said:
Every program has boosters that handle practices such as this to aid athletic departments. It's how shady things get done without the headman having blood directly on his hands. In this case, his trusted men flipped on him and Tyndall was linked to all shady activities.
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Maybe I am very naive but I don't believe all programs so such things as this
 
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BruinVol said:
Maybe I am very naive but I don't believe all programs so such things as this
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I can agree with that thought. I should have been clearer. All programs have boosters that handle cash issues with students (whether fake jobs, petty cash for food, or other emergency issues with family/personal, etc). Going as far as having schoolwork done and paying for full years of tuition I don't believe occurs at all schools.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
That's what I meant too about the money coming out of their own pocket. They paid for it but maybe figured out a way to get them money without it necessarily literally coming out of Tyndall's pocket.
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I said I'd get it for you so here goes. I could copy and paste but that leaves out the "who" as it relates to players so I will summarize every "cash/card" incident that links to Tyndall in the NOA.

1. It is alleged that Tyndall paid for student F's enrollment in classes at Adam's State using pre-paid debit cards purchased at a CVS in New York. I believe these cards are the "vanilla visas" 4 of them, $500/each, so $2000.

2. It is alleged that Tyndall provided CASH and and prepaid cards that totaled approximately $6000 to student athlete H.
"These benefits were applied to  student H's account at the institution to partially pay for his year of residence expenses associated with tuition and room and board." Emphasis mine.

The actual total is $6,314.14

There were 6 payments made on behalf of H ranging from $497 to $2038.48

Student H admitted he received the cash and prepaid cards in his statement to the NCAA.

3. It is alleged that Tyndall provided prepaid cards that totaled approximately $2000 to student athlete I. "These benefits were applied to  student I's account at the institution to partially pay for his year of residence expenses associated with tuition and room and board." Emphasis mine.

The actual total is $2198.25

There were three payments made on behalf of student athlete I, $966, $901, $331.25

Student I admitted that he received the prepaid cards in his statement to the NCAA.

Further as it relates to H and I, their high school coaches were sending prepaid cards to the mens basketball office, $4000 for student I, $4000 to $5000 for student H...in both cases they were sent "C/O MBB HC" (Tyndall).

They interviewed the former head of compliance (now at Memphis in a similar capacity) In summary, he basically says he didn't remember having any conversation regarding high school coaches sending in money and that Tyndall had contacted him in the last couple of months to get his recollection of the conversation regarding non-qualifiers and their coaches paying for their tuition.

The statement of former MBB Asst. 1 in section F198 is particularly damning. He says Tyndall paid for both H and I's year in residence with his own funds, had H's HS HC provide false letters corresponding to amounts paid so that Tyndall "covers his tracks", and that during the investigation Tyndall contacted both H and I with burner phones and a phone in Tyndall's mother's name telling them to stick to their story that H and I paid their own way...I'm summarizing here.

So, as far as i can tell, that's how it worked and those are the sections that deal with money directly tied to Tyndall. I doubt that is the extent of it because that leaves 6 kids paying for their online classes. Maybe they did or maybe those kids wouldn't talk, we'll never know.
 
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etsuvol13 said:
glad this cheat is gone.
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At this point, even the strongest of his supporters, has to take the same approach.

I still feel that if he was clean he would have done great things but obviously he wasn't and history says he never will be.

So we better consider ourselves lucky that he wasn't here long enough(we hope) to ruin our program with devastating NCAA issues
 
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BruinVol said:
At this point, even the strongest of his supporters, has to take the same approach.

I still feel that if he was clean he would have done great things but obviously he wasn't and history says he never will be.

So we better consider ourselves lucky that he wasn't here long enough(we hope) to ruin our program with devastating NCAA issues
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At this point, I'm just praying Tyndall was too busy covering up the USM stuff to do anything outrageous while recruiting for Tennessee.:eek:hmy:
 
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germanicus said:
At this point, I'm just praying Tyndall was too busy covering up the USM stuff to do anything outrageous while recruiting for Tennessee.:eek:hmy:
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Yep. Glad the allegations hit as early as they did for sure. We are likely lucky The kid that immediately decommitted did so.
 
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BruinVol said:
At this point, even the strongest of his supporters, has to take the same approach.
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Towards the beginning when there were people on both sides, I was definitely on the side of wanting Tyndall out. The fans who wanted to keep him at that time hated the people that wanted Tyndall out. I wanted him out partially because I didn't want stuff attached to him that would penalize Tennessee due to him being penalized and also, the way the team crumbled down the stretch, I wasn't too happy with that. Not happy he had to get in trouble but glad he's out for the sake of our team.

I would have killed for Gregg Marshall but I'm fine with Barnes as the care taker of basketball program for the next decade or so. He had a lot of success and recruited very well at Texas but some people think he fell short given all the talent. Will be curious to see how he does with recruiting here and how he does in a new conference. I'm fine if he can string together a similar career with UT to that of his career at TX.

Going through the process of changing coaches multiple times(in a short period of time) in football, basketball and baseball... I'm just sick of it because you never know what you're going to get and there's not stability. I'd be happy just competing in basketball since Pearl's departure. If we never win a championship in the next 10 years under Barnes but are making the tourney every year, make a couple sweet 16's and maybe reach an elite 8 or final 4, I'd take it. I'm ready for some form of stability at this point with all of the coaching changes. Plus, Butch is gonna kill it with the football team so I just want Barnes, a known veteran coach, to make the basketball program viable in the wake of Tennessee becoming an elite football program. :)

What's going on the Barnes/Texas stuff anyways? I haven't really kept up since I originally read about it. Is Barnes cleared of any wrongdoing or are they still in the process of finding out?
 
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The Texas/Barnes thing is different kind of deal. There are three players going back 12 years. Two of them have already been looked into based on Wolverton's previous fixer article. Martez Walker is the latest...he is the one caught snapping photos of test questions and sending them to someone else to get answers. The person that caught him went to see a football advisor and he/she passed it up the chain. There it gets cloudy. Walker was indefinitely suspended and eventually dismissed by Barnes after his second arrest. Due to Wolverton' s second article the President of Texas launched an investigation regarding the three incidents and that is ongoing.
 
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BruinVol said:
At this point, even the strongest of his supporters, has to take the same approach.

I still feel that if he was clean he would have done great things but obviously he wasn't and history says he never will be.

So we better consider ourselves lucky that he wasn't here long enough(we hope) to ruin our program with devastating NCAA issues
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Exactly. Good post.
 
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germanicus said:
"How did he have time for basketball? "


Munz: Details of NCAA probe of USM alarming
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I think Tyndall is only going to fight it at the very slim chance he can win, and really had no other choice. Pearl had the opportunity to come clean and get off relatively easy. If Tyndall comes clean, he's destroyed. I think he knows he did all of this, but at this point admission to it ruins his career completely. He has no choice but to roll the dice in the fight, which I think he'll lose.
 
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Deadspin had the official letter up on their site. Hadn't really read it but holy crap we dodged a bullet by firing this guy. One of the largest takeaways is where was the due diligence from the search from or from Dave Harts office? Seriously? After the Bruce pearl debacle, we should be turning over every stone when hiring a coach. How did nothing come up given the amount of dirt the NCAA has dug up? Unbelievable
 
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