Space Exploration

Are NASA's future missions and budget justified?

  • It's worth the time and expenditures

    Votes: 221 66.0%

  • Complete waste of money

    Votes: 41 12.2%

  • We need to explore, but not at the current cost

    Votes: 73 21.8%
  • Total voters
    335
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OrangeTsar said:
The good news is that they will accumulate a lot more frequent flier miles.
But seriously, I do believe they get substantially higher pay when in orbit don’t they?
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I would assume so. I would also think there is a pending lawsuit going to hit Boeing over this. I could see the individual astronauts having a pretty good case here.
 
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LouderVol said:
I would assume so. I would also think there is a pending lawsuit going to hit Boeing over this. I could see the individual astronauts having a pretty good case here.
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Won’t happen. These are test pilots who made their career flying in high risk missions. And it would be the end of your career as a test pilot if you sued the entity that is basically your employer and no other company would ever risk hiring you in the future.
The smart ones are the several who were formerly training for Starliner who asked to be transferred off of the project as it kept getting delayed further and further.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
A working Starship would make Artemis obsolete.
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Not exactly. Starship is not yet designed for reentry at translunar velocity. They are still trying to get the thermal protection right for coming in from LEO at 17,500 mph. Coming back from the moon is a lot higher loading as they hit the atmosphere at 25,000 miles per hour. The Orion capsule is already tested successfully for that part of the mission profile.
But I have no doubt that SpaceX will solve that problem efficiently when the time comes
 
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LouderVol said:
I would assume so. I would also think there is a pending lawsuit going to hit Boeing over this. I could see the individual astronauts having a pretty good case here.
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In this case I'm pretty sure they are technically civilians that now works for Boeing.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Not exactly. Starship is not yet designed for reentry at translunar velocity. They are still trying to get the thermal protection right for coming in from LEO at 17,500 mph. Coming back from the moon is a lot higher loading as they hit the atmosphere at 25,000 miles per hour. The Orion capsule is already tested successfully for that part of the mission profile.
But I have no doubt that SpaceX will solve that problem efficiently when the time comes
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They could transfer between a lunar Starship and a launch/landing Starship.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
They could transfer between a lunar Starship and a launch/landing Starship.
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Except the fuel requirements to brake from 25k to 17.5k to transfer to the landing ship would be prohibitive.
I hate it; but we are stuck with Orion as the lunar „taxi“ for the foreseeable future. The mismanagement of Artimis and its wedding to ULA/Boeing means that the almost $50 billion spent on Artimis has resulted in a very expensive and bloated vehicle that can only ferry humans to and from lunar orbit; even less than we could do with Apollo over 50 years ago.
 
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LouderVol said:
I would assume so. I would also think there is a pending lawsuit going to hit Boeing over this. I could see the individual astronauts having a pretty good case here.
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Diversity is boeings strength. I bet it's amazing being space. Isn't Elon trying to build a ship to get them out earlier
 
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