Star Wars: Episode VII (December 18, 2015) ***SPOILERS***

I just watched a new hope 2.0

Seriously this movie was WAY to much like a new hope

I do dock The Force Awakens a bit for that, but I can't say it detracted from my enjoyment of the film. So for me, the lack of originality made this film like an 8.5/10 instead of a 10/10. Still a VERY enjoyable movie and a big step in the right direction for this franchise.
 
I do dock The Force Awakens a bit for that, but I can't say it detracted from my enjoyment of the film. So for me, the lack of originality made this film like an 8.5/10 instead of a 10/10. Still a VERY enjoyable movie and a big step in the right direction for this franchise.

I agree. One of the main goals of this movie was to wash the taste of the prequels out of the fans' mouths. I think they went a little too far trying to hit the nostalgia chords but overall they did a good job of establishing the new characters and storyline going forward.
 
I agree. One of the main goals of this movie was to wash the taste of the prequels out of the fans' mouths. I think they went a little too far trying to hit the nostalgia chords but overall they did a good job of establishing the new characters and storyline going forward.

The ironic thing about that is that my favorite parts of the movie had nothing to do with the old characters. I loved the new cast and thought they were strong points of the movie. The only exception was seeing Luke at the end. That was awesome.
 
The ironic thing about that is that my favorite parts of the movie had nothing to do with the old characters. I loved the new cast and thought they were strong points of the movie. The only exception was seeing Luke at the end. That was awesome.

Luke at the end was bone chilling. He's no longer the boy, but is now an experienced Jedi master.
 
I didn't mind similarities to prior movies except the planet destroying organic "death star". Seemed ****ing lazy
 
I didn't mind similarities to prior movies except the planet destroying organic "death star". Seemed ****ing lazy

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I didn't like the new super duper Death Star, especially when it seemed even more of a letdown than the first one. Plus when you factor in ROTJ, that's basically 3 movies now with exploding Death Stars, and add in numbnuts Anakin blowing up the droid ship in TPM, that's 4 movies that end with fighters blowing something up against "all odds".

Plus you'd think by now they'd figure out a way to keep a handful of fighter pilots from blowing up their big weapon. It's like a Dr. Evil skit writing itself.
 
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I didn't like the new super duper Death Star, especially when it seemed even more of a letdown than the first one. Plus when you factor in ROTJ, that's basically 3 movies now with exploding Death Stars, and add in numbnuts Anakin blowing up the droid ship in TPM, that's 4 movies that end with fighters blowing something up against "all odds".

Plus you'd think by now they'd figure out a way to keep a handful of fighter pilots from blowing up their big weapon. It's like a Dr. Evil skit writing itself.

To be fair this one did require a small group of people setting explosives inside the station before the fighters had a chance.

And Han's gamble to come out of Hyperspace in the planets atmosphere was pretty cool.

My biggest complaint is that it felt tacked on. The plot of the movie should have focused on finding Luke and that's it. The Death Star 3 seemed like a distraction.
 
To be fair this one did require a small group of people setting explosives inside the station before the fighters had a chance.

And Han's gamble to come out of Hyperspace in the planets atmosphere was pretty cool.

My biggest complaint is that it felt tacked on. The plot of the movie should have focused on finding Luke and that's it. The Death Star 3 seemed like a distraction.

I felt like the buildup to destroying Death Star 3 should lasted this movie and maybe next movie tackle that. If they needed some battles, have them attacking a base or two.
 
To be fair this one did require a small group of people setting explosives inside the station before the fighters had a chance.

And Han's gamble to come out of Hyperspace in the planets atmosphere was pretty cool.

My biggest complaint is that it felt tacked on. The plot of the movie should have focused on finding Luke and that's it. The Death Star 3 seemed like a distraction.

I'm just waiting to see a crash of some sort in hyperspace, due to other ships hitting each other, or hitting another planet or star.
 
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I didn't like the new super duper Death Star, especially when it seemed even more of a letdown than the first one. Plus when you factor in ROTJ, that's basically 3 movies now with exploding Death Stars, and add in numbnuts Anakin blowing up the droid ship in TPM, that's 4 movies that end with fighters blowing something up against "all odds".

Plus you'd think by now they'd figure out a way to keep a handful of fighter pilots from blowing up their big weapon. It's like a Dr. Evil skit writing itself.

The novelization of TPM was so much better than the movie, I thought. It gives you a little more about Anakin destroying the Trade Federation ship. Basically the Force willed him to shoot towards the vent that led to the core. It just seemed like dumb luck in the movie though. Also, Jar Jar and Anakin are far more tolerable to read than to see and hear. It also fleshes out Qui Gon a lot better as the roguish hippy that should have been on the Jedi Council, but was never invited because he went against their ways and was too caring (Bringing Anakin to Coruscant, for example).
 
If I've said it once, I've said it 1,000 times: Rogue One will be better than The Force Awakens.

That's a very high bar it has to get to if it's better!

From what I understand it's based on the Rebel group mentioned in the Ep.4 opening crawl about stealing the death stars plans that Princess Leia is carrying!
 
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I thought seeing Carrie and Harrison in the film (and their shoddy respective acting jobs) just served as a reminder that the franchise will never come close to a New Hope or Empire.

There was nothing new in it, even the aliens/monsters were boring.


/rant
 
I thought seeing Carrie and Harrison in the film (and their shoddy respective acting jobs) just served as a reminder that the franchise will never come close to a New Hope or Empire.

There was nothing new in it, even the aliens/monsters were boring.


/rant

The Force Awakens was better than A New Hope.
 
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The Force Awakens was better than A New Hope.

Very rarely have I thought remakes were better than the original, but if this is being categorized by everyone as a remake of A New Hope, it did most everything that movie did better. I can understand nostalgia and the whole first love thing though.

A New Hope is arguably John Williams' best work though. Right up there with his Harry Potter score for me.
 
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