Star Wars: Rogue One

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I really enjoyed this movie and I liked that they went with a more serious and dark tone. It gives me hope that they might make a sith movie down the road. I would really like a Darth Bane movie, but really any sith film would be pretty awesome.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
While Empire was easily the best of the 3, ANH and RotJ both have better third acts.

ANH is probably the most famous third act of all time.
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Empire has always been the popular choice as being everyone's favorite but to be honest I enjoy Return of the Jedi just a little bit more. While perhaps not as consistent as Empire, Jedi to me had more "wow" moments when I first saw it in theaters...

1.) Seeing Jabba the Hut for the first time.

2.) The rancor scene

3.) Seeing Luke's green lightsaber ignite for the first time.

4.) The death scene of Yoda

5.) The reveal of Luke and Leia being twin siblings.

6.) The speeder bike chase.

7.) The amazing space battle

8.) All of the scenes with Luke, Vader, and the emperor.

9.) Vader's redemption.

10.) Vader's death.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Empire has always been the popular choice as being everyone's favorite but to be honest I enjoy Return of the Jedi just a little bit more. While perhaps not as consistent as Empire, Jedi to me had more "wow" moments when I first saw it in theaters...

1.) Seeing Jabba the Hut for the first time.

2.) The rancor scene

3.) Seeing Luke's green lightsaber ignite for the first time.

4.) The death scene of Yoda

5.) The reveal of Luke and Leia being twin siblings.

6.) The speeder bike chase.

7.) The amazing space battle

8.) All of the scenes with Luke, Vader, and the emperor.

9.) Vader's redemption.

10.) Vader's death.
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ROTJ is hard to evaluate. The best parts were awesome and the bad parts took up too much screen time. I loved every part of the scenes at Jabba's Palace. The Max Rebo Band, the guards, Leia's slave outfit :) and as you mentioned, the Rancor... I also loved the showdown at the pit in the Dune Sea.

However, the Ewoks were just a little too much help against the Empire and destroying another Death Star not only seemed redundant but even easier since it was under construction.

...though as far as Vader's redemption and death - for a series that was often clunky with it's dialogue, when Luke tells Vader, "I can still save you." and a helmet-less Vader responds ."You already have." just before he dies...well, that is still my favorite moment in all of the Star Wars movies.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
ROTJ is hard to evaluate. The best parts were awesome and the bad parts took up too much screen time. I loved every part of the scenes at Jabba's Palace. The Max Rebo Band, the guards, Leia's slave outfit :) and as you mentioned, the Rancor... I also loved the showdown at the pit in the Dune Sea.

However, the Ewoks were just a little too much help against the Empire and destroying another Death Star not only seemed redundant but even easier since it was under construction.

...though as far as Vader's redemption and death - for a series that was often clunky with it's dialogue, when Luke tells Vader, "I can still save you." and a helmet-less Vader responds ."You already have." just before he dies...well, that is still my favorite moment in all of the Star Wars movies.
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The Hobbits were just a little too much help in destroying Sauron..I think that idea, that the greatest help can come from a completely overlooked source, is what Lucas was aiming at. I know that was completely Tolkiens point. The Ewoks were just a little too teddy bearish for everybody.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
The Hobbits were just a little too much help in destroying Sauron..I think that idea, that the greatest help can come from a completely overlooked source, is what Lucas was aiming at. I know that was completely Tolkiens point. The Ewoks were just a little too teddy bearish for everybody.
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Not everybody hated Ewoks at the time. The masses didn't start hating on the Ewoks until much much later. As someone who was about 6 years old when RotJ came out I loved them and so did my friends at the time. They were mega popular. That's why they spawned a cartoon and 2 TV movies.

It wasn't until I was a teenager that I started thinking "y'know, the Ewoks are kinda dumb." Now, as an adult, I just kinda accept them for what they are, dumbed down Wookiees.

I also think the Ewoks would benefit by today's FX. Instead of looking like little people in teddy bear costumes that restricts their movements, imagine them being a little more agile and quicker.

Anyway... point is Ewoks were never universally reviled like Jar Jar was.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Not everybody hated Ewoks at the time. The masses didn't start hating on the Ewoks until much much later. As someone who was about 6 years old when RotJ came out I loved them and so did my friends at the time. They were mega popular. That's why they spawned a cartoon and 2 TV movies.

It wasn't until I was a teenager that I started thinking "y'know, the Ewoks are kinda dumb." Now, as an adult, I just kinda accept them for what they are, dumbed down Wookiees.

I also think the Ewoks would benefit by today's FX. Instead of looking like little people in teddy bear costumes that restricts their movements, imagine them being a little more agile and quicker.

Anyway... point is Ewoks were never universally reviled like Jar Jar was.
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I know I've said it before, but people have an issue with retroactively hating Star Wars movies more than any film/franchise I've ever seen.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Not everybody hated Ewoks at the time. The masses didn't start hating on the Ewoks until much much later. As someone who was about 6 years old when RotJ came out I loved them and so did my friends at the time. They were mega popular. That's why they spawned a cartoon and 2 TV movies.

It wasn't until I was a teenager that I started thinking "y'know, the Ewoks are kinda dumb." Now, as an adult, I just kinda accept them for what they are, dumbed down Wookiees.

I also think the Ewoks would benefit by today's FX. Instead of looking like little people in teddy bear costumes that restricts their movements, imagine them being a little more agile and quicker.

Anyway... point is Ewoks were never universally reviled like Jar Jar was.
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Spot on.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
I know I've said it before, but people have an issue with retroactively hating Star Wars movies more than any film/franchise I've ever seen.
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Great movies and in this case - an industry altering series of movies, will inspire close scrutiny especially from younger viewers who weren't around for the initial run and are either curious over what the fuss is all about or just want to feel smarter than their parents... There is actually an entire blog dedicated to 'Star Wars goofs' and you would be amazed how much of it is dedicated just to debating whether or not Han Solo's line about the Falcon making the Kessell Run in less than 12 parsecs is a goof (a parsec is a unit of distance after all).
 
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BigOrange15 said:
I know I've said it before, but people have an issue with retroactively hating Star Wars movies more than any film/franchise I've ever seen.
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The only thing I have hated about SW is Ep1. And I don't totally hate it. It was just too..childish..Oh and Hayden Christenson...dude was horrible.
 
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I was listening to the Rebel Force Radio podcast and they have a podcast group called "Ogygen" which they concentrate on the music of Star Wars. If you're familiar with music theory and musical concepts I highly recommend listening to the latest rebel force radio ogygen series podcast. It's really amazing how John Williams' scores played on each other and how they tell the story of the movies through music. This is the first Star Wars movie with a different musical director and I personally feel he did a great job with this movie and how he maintained the opera of Star Wars.

I hope carrie fisher is alright.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Great movies and in this case - an industry altering series of movies, will inspire close scrutiny especially from younger viewers who weren't around for the initial run and are either curious over what the fuss is all about or just want to feel smarter than their parents... There is actually an entire blog dedicated to 'Star Wars goofs' and you would be amazed how much of it is dedicated just to debating whether or not Han Solo's line about the Falcon making the Kessell Run in less than 12 parsecs is a goof (a parsec is a unit of distance after all).
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I loved that The Force Awakens took this head on. Han Solo even corrected Rey on the exact number of "parsecs"
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Ironically, Episode 1 IMO has aged better than 2 and 3. Of the 3 prequels, its the only one that feels like a Star Wars movie to me. Plus it benefits from not having Hayden Christiansen.
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I'll agree with part of it, because in some ways it feels more like a SW film to me because of the 3 prequels, this used the least amount of CGI and used more real sets.

But Jar Jar and Jake Lloyd are so bad in it, it still makes it worse than the other 2 for me. Though only very slightly than Attack of the Clones.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I'll agree with part of it, because in some ways it feels more like a SW film to me because of the 3 prequels, this used the least amount of CGI and used more real sets.

But Jar Jar and Jake Lloyd are so bad in it, it still makes it worse than the other 2 for me. Though only very slightly than Attack of the Clones.
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Jar Jar I understand but I thought Jake Lloyd was fine. Nothing Oscar worthy but I never thought he was part of the issue with TPM.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Jar Jar I understand but I thought Jake Lloyd was fine. Nothing Oscar worthy but I never thought he was part of the issue with TPM.
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I think it's one the worst child performances in a major movie I've seen. I don't blame him because he was directed to be that way and he didn't write the lines he spoke but it was pretty bad.
 
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zreeves said:
I really enjoyed this movie and I liked that they went with a more serious and dark tone. It gives me hope that they might make a sith movie down the road. I would really like a Darth Bane movie, but really any sith film would be pretty awesome.
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I still say they need to do a Jedi-Sith War trilogy series.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I think it's one the worst child performances in a major movie I've seen. I don't blame him because he was directed to be that way and he didn't write the lines he spoke but it was pretty bad.
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Whats funny is if you watch the audition footage, Jake Lloyd was by far the best one. It would've been way worse if they used one of the other actors.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Whats funny is if you watch the audition footage, Jake Lloyd was by far the best one. It would've been way worse if they used one of the other actors.
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He was good in other movies I've seen, so that's why I blame the direction and script more.

I mean those prequels made several good actors seem bad.
 
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Just saw Rogue One; my gut reaction is it's better than Episode VII, much better than the prequels, and on par with the original trilogy.
 
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