State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America

#151
#151
therealUT said:
You should read what you post prior to posting:


Those are not overt actions, authorized by the highest levels of the Mexican gov't. They are singular mistakes by soldiers on both sides of the border.
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So they have to be authorized by the highest levels of the Mexican govt. before they bother you. Wrong again. Keep them coming.
 
#153
#153
allvol123 said:
So they have to be authorized by the highest levels of the Mexican govt. before they bother you. Wrong again. Keep them coming.
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Considering the military is seperate of the justice dep't (in America as well as Mexico,) it would take higher level coordination for your apparently ingenius plan to work. So, yes, it would have to be authorized by the highest levels of the Mexican gov't to bother me.
 
#154
#154
therealUT said:
You should definitely read my post again. There is a difference between an individual soldier crossing the border and the Mexican gov't sending them across. If you look closely, I actually used the word "send" in my post, imagine that?!?

The sad thing is that in order to defend your stance against illegal immigration, you have backed yourself into such an outlandish situation. If the matter of Mexican deporting its prisoners to the US is your last island of hope in your cause, then I doubt your cause is all that noble.
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Not backed into a corner. I am purposely using an outrageous example to show sorry our immigration policy is. It would stop nothing using the current methods.

So what about 2 individual soldiers crossing? 3? 4? 5? what number begins to bother you? 1000? Still no good answers from you realUT
 
#155
#155
therealUT said:
Considering the military is seperate of the justice dep't (in America as well as Mexico,) it would take higher level coordination for your apparently ingenius plan to work. So, yes, it would have to be authorized by the highest levels of the Mexican gov't to bother me.
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ok so a 5000 man armed militia striking US soil would not bother you since it would not be sanctioned by the uncorruptable Meixcan government. Glad to know your stance.
 
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#156
allvol123 said:
Not backed into a corner. I am purposely using an outrageous example to show sorry our immigration policy is. It would stop nothing using the current methods.

So what about 2 individual soldiers crossing? 3? 4? 5? what number begins to bother you? 1000? Still no good answers from you realUT
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I would be bothered when a battalion sized element crossed the border with a military objective inside the U.S.
 
#158
#158
allvol123 said:
Well it least that is a real answer. You would be ok with a militia strike into the US, I would not.
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A militia strike of a battalion size or more would bother me. However, it would be kind of tough not to detect a battalion of soldiers (and/or militia members) moving in formation towards and across our border.
 
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#159
therealUT said:
A militia strike of a battalion size or more would bother me. However, it would be kind of tough not to detect a battalion of soldiers (and/or militia members) moving in formation towards and across our border.
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Why would they have to move at once and in formation? We are getting off subject a little, this is not my main reason for be pissed with our poor border security.
 
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#160
allvol123 said:
Why would they have to move at once and in formation? We are getting off subject a little, this is not my main reason for be pissed with our poor border security.
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Command and Control purposes. It would be better for a unit to lose the element of surprise yet for the unit commanders to maintain control of their units, than to split up and hope everyone finds a way point (which would again require a mass formation) before engaging the objective. It worked on D-Day in Normandy, however, those were highly elite soldiers. That training required that the highest levels of the gov't knew something about their missions. A rogue battalion will not ever be able to train themselves to that kind of elite standard.
 
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therealUT said:
Command and Control purposes. It would be better for a unit to lose the element of surprise yet for the unit commanders to maintain control of their units, than to split up and hope everyone finds a way point (which would again require a mass formation) before engaging the objective. It worked on D-Day in Normandy, however, those were highly elite soldiers. That training required that the highest levels of the gov't knew something about their missions. A rogue battalion will not ever be able to train themselves to that kind of elite standard.
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Anyway,....
We get too personal sometimes in our arguments. I have respect for your thought processes and agree with you on many other topics. But I have not seen one good reason in support of a pourous border, I am not saying that in a condescending manner.
 
#162
#162
allvol123 said:
You have not stated one reason or example as to how the current immigation enforcement methods would stop this.
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and again i say, and you may want to read this, this doesnt concern immigration enforcement, it is extradition, or at worst, a ridiculous scenario that would lead to mexico being cut off from the rest of the world. and dare i say, you have yet to provide one reason or example as to how this is possible
 
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#163
you can't tell me to back up my simple, obvious arguments without first backing up your completely and honestly just plain dumb ones.
 
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emainvol said:
and again i say, and you may want to read this, this doesnt concern immigration enforcement, it is extradition, or at worst, a ridiculous scenario that would lead to mexico being cut off from the rest of the world. and dare i say, you have yet to provide one reason or example as to how this is possible
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people randomly walking across the border is extradition? a ridiculous scenario huh, so you know the backgrounds of the 10 to 12 million that have come across? How is it not possible? It is a hypothetical, tell me how the current policy would prohibit it?
 
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#165
emainvol said:
you can't tell me to back up my simple, obvious arguments without first backing up your completely and honestly just plain dumb ones.
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First of all, you need to learn to follow board rules. Watch the calling of someone else's thoughts dumb. I know it is difficult for you to do this, the lack of you coming up with a good argument has made you angry. Please temper yourself.
 
#169
#169
CSpindizzy said:
The middle as in sitting on the fence? Or building one?
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I am all for building walls on both our borders, as long as the immigration quota is raised significantly and the turn around time on immigration requests is reduced from 6 months to around a week or two. Until that happens, I am pro illegal immigration.
 
#170
#170
In a related topic...

The University of Tennessee has announced that tickets will no longer be required for entry into football games. The University feels that requiring tickets discriminates against people that don't have tickets. When asked about seating arrangements, officials stated " that is not our problem, people can sit where they want, just because a person or family has donated thousands of dollars to UT over many years is not a logical reason as to them being able to claim a specific seat". Offiials also said there is no way for them to control the attendace into the games under this new method. "If 200,000 people show up, so be it" one official stated. "I am sure there are seats available that paying fans are not willing to sit in, we are confident that the new non-paying fans will gladly take these seats". Some are concerned that the new policy will eliminate home field advantage as throngs of UGA,UF,UA, USC, etc... fans are expected to make the journey in since admission is free. "We expect the stadium could be filled with as much as 50% of opposing fans". Under the new policy fans can even watch the game from the field and mingle amongst the players and coaches. One offical stated "why shouldn't they be able to do this? what is point of having rules and order".
 
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#172
allvol123 said:
people randomly walking across the border is extradition? a ridiculous scenario huh, so you know the backgrounds of the 10 to 12 million that have come across? How is it not possible? It is a hypothetical, tell me how the current policy would prohibit it?
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letting 12 million people out of prison WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. i am not backing up a point that needs no backing. i don't care if your scenario is hypothetical or not.
 
#173
#173
allvol123 said:
First of all, you need to learn to follow board rules. Watch the calling of someone else's thoughts dumb. I know it is difficult for you to do this, the lack of you coming up with a good argument has made you angry. Please temper yourself.
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a) i stand by my statement
b) i'm not angry, and for the last time i don't need a good argument.
c) this argument is over, don't respond to me, you lost.
 
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emainvol said:
a) i stand by my statement
b) i'm not angry, and for the last time i don't need a good argument.
c) this argument is over, don't respond to me, you lost.
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As for b, glad you didn't need one since you never had one.

If I did had to guess, comment c sounds as if it was written by a 6 year old. :post-4-1090547912:
 
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#175
allvol123 said:
As for b, glad you didn't need one since you never had one.

If I did had to guess, comment c sounds as if it was written by a 6 year old. :post-4-1090547912:
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where's that respect you are supposed to show? did you read the board rules?
 
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