State of the Union Address

#476
#476
droski said:
what people find stressful is a person by person situation. are you arguing you worked longer hours on average?
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Yes. Because I would take the planning and grading home with me. And maybe I am an idiot, but grading tests was a chore because I tried to give partial credit where I could. I'm sure life would have been simpler if I just did purely multiple choice and breezed through it.

When I put in a solid 10 hour day now (which is fairly normal) at least I know when I walk out the door, I am done with work until the next day.

Plus, there was very little "down time" during the school day. I got a planning period, but that was eaten up by making copies, getting lesson plans finished up, parent conferences and the myriad other BS tasks that the administration dictated.

Hell, even if you just handed out worksheets for them to practice in class, there were constant questions.

I think my post count speaks to the amount of down time I can get away with in my current job.

Don't even get me started on the work/pay ratio.
 
#477
#477
bam15 said:
Let me give you a hint. Teaching is a noble service. I've seen it first-hand. The profession is so glamorous that, I do not want to do it.
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funny that is very common among children of teachers
 
#478
#478
You don't get into teaching for the pay. You get into teaching because you want to make a differnce.
 
#479
#479
droski said:
the real question is do you need truly brilliant and talented people to find good teachers. particurally at teh k-8 level. i'd argue no and that the evidence suggests there are plenty of people willing to do this job with the perks they have.
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I doubt you need truly brilliant people to teach 4th grade, but "talented" sure doesn't hurt. It takes a certain kind of talent to entertain 4th-graders, that doesn't necessarily equate to academic brilliance.

From what I've heard, you're right: there are plenty of people fighting for the K-5 jobs (I'm not sure about middle school, so I won't comment). But isn't that probably just because the school track is so easy for elementary ed?

I've heard high schools are the opposite--they are begging for teachers, especially in the sciences.
 
#480
#480
StepCross said:
Like having 30 17-year-olds in a classroom who don't want to be there and who know there is absolutely no consequence for anything they do?

And having a few in the room who want to learn, but you can't teach them anything because the environment is so distracting?

That's not stressful?
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No. That is not high level stress worthy of of 80K or 100K a year. Sorry but it's not. The guy standing at the Wendy's drive through has to deal with pissed off people all day long and orders getting mixed up and co workers who porobably don't care. Does he deserve 45K? Hell no.

Stress is having quotas placed on your head and someone standing directly behind you who you know is there who is itching to take your job for less. That is stress.

Every person on here who is an exec or sales rep or small business owner knows the over the shoulder feel and having quotas. Tjose jobs never turn off. They never clock out. You live with it.

Teachers don't do this.
 
#487
#487
tigervol9802 said:
My father specifically told me not to go into it unless I was 100% without-a-doubt for sure this was what I wanted to do.
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mine said they wouldn't help with school if I wanted to go into education :)

bam15 said:
My sister is a teacher. Don't know how that turned out. I wouldn't want to do it for a day of my life.
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I helped my mom out and knew it was not for me. After the 100th explanation of a common denominator I would have walked out
 
#490
#490
droski said:
not sure what you had to deal with, but i've never met a teacher (who didn't coach) who spent that kind of time at their job. ever.
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You obviously haven't met too many.

Or California is just a joke.
 
#491
#491
It's really easy when you get into working ball games, running clocks, playing the music for a play, and all of the other million things going on after school. You do them so you can show the kids you care about them.
 
#492
#492
droski said:
not sure what you had to deal with, but i've never met a teacher (who didn't coach) who spent that kind of time at their job. ever.
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Well, that's good for them. I couldn't find a way to pull it off.
 
#493
#493
vader said:
A lot of the teachers I knew had summer gigs to help pay the bills.
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most people don't have that option in their jobs. arguing this isn't a huge benefit is a bit silly.

bam15 said:
You obviously haven't met too many.

Or California is just a joke.
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my wife, sister in law, and mother in law are all teachers. most of their friends are teachers. i know a lot. i assure you.
 
#494
#494
droski said:
not sure what you had to deal with, but i've never met a teacher (who didn't coach) who spent that kind of time at their job. ever.
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and I've seen very few that didn't (at least ones that were any good)
 
#495
#495
Ok so you work 50 hours a week for about 45K?

About what an associate manager would make for the same hours.

The associate manger is probably in control of about 5-15 employees and has to make sure the scheduling is done and stock is available.

Is a teacher more important than this person?
 
#496
#496
droski said:
if it's such a crappy job with such lousy pay how come the demand for such jobs is so high? i assure you that here in california there are far more applicants than jobs available.
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I'm guessing because it's too easy to get into the job (college track is a joke), and hard to get out (tenure).
 
#498
#498
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Ok so you work 50 hours a week for about 45K?

About what an associate manager would make for the same hours.

The associate manger is probably in control of about 5-15 employees and has to make sure the scheduling is done and stock is available.

Is a teacher more important than this person?
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yes
 
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