State of the Union Discussion Thread

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#602
OrangeTsar said:
It is the shameless brazenness of the pandering that gets me. Good grief. 24 hours ago, if I went in to pay for a bag of Funyuns and a Mountain Dew at the Circle K without a mask and I was literally “killing grandma”, and now….POOF….the entire government of our Republic is perfectly safe sitting 1 foot from each other and breathing on one another and everything is fine????
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New distraction emerged to occupy the news cycle. Covid is forever in the back pocket to use in rotation with voter suppression, class warfare, free college, billionaires paying their share and so on.
 
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#603
OrangeTsar said:
It is the shameless brazenness of the pandering that gets me. Good grief. 24 hours ago, if I went in to pay for a bag of Funyuns and a Mountain Dew at the Circle K without a mask and I was literally “killing grandma”, and now….POOF….the entire government of our Republic is perfectly safe sitting 1 foot from each other and breathing on one another and everything is fine????
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Science.
 
#604
#604
'What the hell is she doing?' Nancy Pelosi distracts viewers during State of Union by jumping out her seat, rubbing her knuckles and grinding her teeth while Biden speaks solemnly about toxic burn pits

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's bizarre behavior during Biden's State of the Union address last night distracted viewers from the President's comments and had some asking if she was 'on drugs' or 'drunk'.

The 81-year-old behaved erratically throughout, jumping up and rubbing her knuckles in glee after Biden spoke of soldiers breathing in toxic air at one point.

At other moments, she rubbed her tongue over her teeth inside her mouth.

'What the hell is she doing?' Nancy Pelosi's bizarre behavior distracts State of Union viewers | Daily Mail Online
 
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#605
'He'll never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people': Biden confuses Ukraine and IRAN during his State of the Union address - while Kamala is seen mouthing the correct word right behind him

President Joe Biden had a gaffe during his State of the Union speech amid the crisis in Ukraine, confusing the nation facing invasion with Iran.

Biden, 79, the oldest man ever elected to the presidency in the United States, was speaking about the ongoing Russian invasion when he erred.

'Putin may circle Kiev with tanks, but he'll never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people,' Biden said.

Just after he finishes saying 'Iranian,' Vice President Kamala Harris can be seen behind Biden mouthing the correct word, 'Ukrainian.'

Social media was afire with reaction at the blunder, with 'Iranians' trending after the speech.

Biden confuses Ukraine and Iran during State of the Union as Kamala mouths correct word behind him | Daily Mail Online
 
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#606
C-south said:
Elections are about 8 months away.
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Let the pandering begin!! Flip flopping 2020 election cycle has already begun.

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#607
Franklin Pierce said:
'What the hell is she doing?' Nancy Pelosi distracts viewers during State of Union by jumping out her seat, rubbing her knuckles and grinding her teeth while Biden speaks solemnly about toxic burn pits

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's bizarre behavior during Biden's State of the Union address last night distracted viewers from the President's comments and had some asking if she was 'on drugs' or 'drunk'.

The 81-year-old behaved erratically throughout, jumping up and rubbing her knuckles in glee after Biden spoke of soldiers breathing in toxic air at one point.

At other moments, she rubbed her tongue over her teeth inside her mouth.

'What the hell is she doing?' Nancy Pelosi's bizarre behavior distracts State of Union viewers | Daily Mail Online
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Obviously, she's bat sh!t crazy being one reason for her behavior.
 
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#610
W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Obviously, she's bat sh!t crazy being one reason for her behavior.
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She and Schumer were off on when to stand in unison and applaud. You got Chuck clapping as a 1% himself and Nancy rubbing her hands knowing her kids never went to war. I applaud Beau for his service.
 
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#618
#1GatorHater said:
Ronald Reagan would be ashamed of what happened to the Republican Party. By far, my favorite president of my lifetime.
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He would be ashamed of certain personalities but I think he would be proud that the party still had some fight left in it. The biggest fear of most conservatives has been that the Republicans would grow too comfortable in a posit of the permanent minority party and settle for a few crumbs from the Democrat hands from
 
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OrangeTsar said:
He would be ashamed of certain personalities but I think he would be proud that the party still had some fight left in it. The biggest fear of most conservatives has been that the Republicans would grow too comfortable in a posit of the permanent minority party and settle for a few crumbs from the Democrat hands from
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The party has moved so far away from Reagan Republicans. The party would have never become isolationist or focused on talking loud and doing very little. It seems that both parties have become memes and have no actual desire to improve the quality of life for average Americans, protecting democracy across the globe, and keeping the USA at the top of the pecking order, economically, politically or otherwise.
It's all about owning liberals or conservatives or whatever.
It's ridiculous. Both parties have the same masters, greedy corporate and foreign entities.
There needs to be a new party without all the BS or there needs to be a ban on elected officials trading stocks, lower their pay to be equal to teachers/police, and limit how long they can serve.
 
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#620
It's interesting watching Twitter play telephone with the SOTU polls. 78% of those that watched said they approved of the speech. That has turned into "78% of America approved of the speech". 95% of the country didn't watch.
 
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#623
Did someone post the info about Biden calling Ukrainians, Iranians during his speech?
 
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#624
lawgator1 said:
His comments re Ukraine, B+

Reaction of both sides of aisle to that, A+

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Tax policy discussion, C-

Reaction, C

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Infrastructure policies, B

Reaction, B


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Wish he got rid of the crutches, "look" and "folks." Style wise it's terribly distracting and detracts from content.

Would like to see more detail of make stuff in the US concept
How, exactly, is that going to happen.

The attack on pharmaceutical companies is tired. Everyone does it because of course people want lower prescription costs. But how, exactly, do we do that?

He's right on allowing Medicare negotiating on prescriptions. And everybody knows it.

The child care issue is obvious. But again what are the specifics? How will we pay for that? Implement it?


Overall, as SOTUs go, a solid B. Reaction was good and GOP was responsible and I think good for show of unity at an important time so I give them kudos for that.

Hope Putin saw that and realized his actions have, at least for a time, caused political leadership to rally on one point, which is that we won't sit by on this.

So far.... will let you know if I have other reactions.
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He’s completely FOS on his not wanting foreign supply chains. He’s trying to steal Trump’s agenda when Biden’s actions are the opposite of what he says.
 
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#625
OrangeTsar said:
He would be ashamed of certain personalities but I think he would be proud that the party still had some fight left in it. The biggest fear of most conservatives has been that the Republicans would grow too comfortable in a posit of the permanent minority party and settle for a few crumbs from the Democrat hands from
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Go read the party’s platforms from the Reagan years. The ideals from that party to today’s party are night and day. Fiscal conservatism is basically dead. The focus on family and small business is dead. Focus on international diplomacy/expansion is dead in favor of isolationism and withdraw. Small government ideals: dead. Focus on R&D: dead. Supporting small farmers/ranchers: dead. Carrying on Teddy Roosevelt’s environmental legacy: dead. Supporting public works infrastructure: dead.

I found this excerpt from an 80s republican platform incredibly striking and relevant to this week’s events:
“We hold a sober view of the Soviet Union. Its globalist ideology and its leadership obsessed with military power make it a threat to freedom and peace on every continent. The Carter-Mondale Administration ignored that threat, and the Democratic candidates underestimate it today. The Carter-Mondale illusion that the Soviet leaders share our ideals and aspirations is not only false but a profound danger to world peace.”
 
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