Stop with the complaining over 3* recruits

#227
#227
Catbone said:
It's OK to be dissatisfied with the class at the moment, I'm one of those people. That being said, there's no reason to panic YET. Come on guys! Win and they'll come!
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The main thing that frustrates me is our staff's inability to land our top in state recruits in this class. I get that you don't land them all but Tennessee isn't Florida or Georgia when it comes to churning out a ton of blue chip in state players. We NEED those prospects and we need them to commit early to help build momentum to attract other blue chip players outside of the state. Losing Tee Higgins hurt. Losing Jacoby Stephens hurt. Losing the son of the last QB to win Tennessee a natty hurts! And frankly I'm not optimistic about Ty Chandler or Trey Smith either. I'm baffled that suddenly in state guys are passing on their state school to play elsewhere, despite all the work Jones and his staff have done and knowing that we are on the cusp of blowing up in the East. Why is there suddenly this disconnect after 2 straight years of great in state recruiting? I just don't understand it.
 
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#229
#229
You might have put a little too much weight on the bar there champ.
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We have four of the top 17. We are trending with Smith and Chandler. We are also looking pretty good for Javonta Payton if his grades pan out. If we sign all of those that would give us 7/17 of the top guys in the state. Rodgers, Richardson, and Stevens were never coming here so just cross them off. The only recruit that we really wanted that is committed elsewhere is Higgins and who knows how that pans out on NSD. Things aren't as bad as they look. So simah down nah!
 
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glichtenwalter said:
You might have put a little too much weight on the bar there champ.
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We have four of the top 17. We are trending with Smith and Chandler. We are also looking pretty good for Javonta Payton if his grades pan out. If we sign all of those that would give us 7/17 of the top guys in the state. Rodgers, Richardson, and Stevens were never coming here so just cross them off. The only recruit that we really wanted that is committed elsewhere is Higgins and who knows how that pans out on NSD. Things aren't as bad as they look. So simah down nah!
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I laugh when I see that posted. "Rogers, Richardson, and Stevens don't count". LOL
 
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Eastsidevol said:
Good point. We are not going to have room for those elite players who commit late UNLESS Butch starts gitshirting some of those lower 3 star players.
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I don't think it's just a coincidence that we've got 2 spots left and the top 2 targets Chandler and Smith are sitting there.
 
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#233
Nashvegas31 said:
If recruiting ended in August, we wouldn't have Kirkland, Richmond, Byrd, Warrior, Callaway, Tatum, Kongbo, phillips, Buchanon, Martin, Moseley, Foreman, Berry, Robertson, Vickers, Dobbs, Malone
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Don't muddle things up with facts....
 
#237
#237
Eastsidevol said:
Was thinking the same thing. Surely Butch is looking at what the elite SEC teams are getting and won't stand pat with what he has.
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Butch did say when asked about having so many early commitments and said it's the result of building relationships over time. He also said it's just getting started. Maybe that means gitshirts coming, or maybe it means keeping these 23 committed till NSD will be the staffs focus.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
Butch did say when asked about having so many early commitments and said it's the result of building relationships over time. He also said it's just getting started. Maybe that means gitshirts coming, or maybe it means keeping these 23 committed till NSD will be the staffs focus.
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Building relationships over time....sounds like one of those catchphrases that Butch uses when the truth needs to be sugar coated. I know he can't just come out and say the class fell apart on him though.
 
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Eastsidevol said:
Maybe you can explain what he means. It doesn't make any sense ...building relationships over time....recruiting is always about building relationships over time. This year shouldn't be any different.
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I am not going to pretend to know what Butch means. He has forgotten more football knowledge than I will ever know. Your constant need to say how bad a class is when its 6 months away trom NSD and before a game is even played is what I was saying is so pathetic.
 
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glichtenwalter said:
You might have put a little too much weight on the bar there champ.
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We have four of the top 17. We are trending with Smith and Chandler. We are also looking pretty good for Javonta Payton if his grades pan out. If we sign all of those that would give us 7/17 of the top guys in the state. Rodgers, Richardson, and Stevens were never coming here so just cross them off. The only recruit that we really wanted that is committed elsewhere is Higgins and who knows how that pans out on NSD. Things aren't as bad as they look. So simah down nah!
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And we lost the #1 and #2 ranked players in the state to out of state schools. That should never happen!
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
And we lost the #1 and #2 ranked players in the state to out of state schools. That should never happen!
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#2 was never coming here anyway so it is hard to lose something we never had. I don't know what happened with Tee but I know he hasn't signed anything yet. You never know. So before we go and declare the football program kaput maybe we should watch the season and see how it all plays out. Mmm Kay? :hmm:
 
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glichtenwalter said:
#2 was never coming here anyway so it is hard to lose something we never had. I don't know what happened with Tee but I know he hasn't signed anything yet. You never know. So before we go and declare the football program kaput maybe we should watch the season and see how it all plays out. Mmm Kay? :hmm:
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Tee ain't coming unless there's some unlikely dumpster fire at Clemson this year. He basically punked the entire state of Tennessee with his fireworks display.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
The main thing that frustrates me is our staff's inability to land our top in state recruits in this class. I get that you don't land them all but Tennessee isn't Florida or Georgia when it comes to churning out a ton of blue chip in state players. We NEED those prospects and we need them to commit early to help build momentum to attract other blue chip players outside of the state. Losing Tee Higgins hurt. Losing Jacoby Stephens hurt. Losing the son of the last QB to win Tennessee a natty hurts! And frankly I'm not optimistic about Ty Chandler or Trey Smith either. I'm baffled that suddenly in state guys are passing on their state school to play elsewhere, despite all the work Jones and his staff have done and knowing that we are on the cusp of blowing up in the East. Why is there suddenly this disconnect after 2 straight years of great in state recruiting? I just don't understand it.
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I agree with you, but Trey Smith's sister works for Butch as of a few weeks ago. I think its safe to call that one for the Vols.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Tee ain't coming unless there's some unlikely dumpster fire at Clemson this year. He basically punked the entire state of Tennessee with his fireworks display.
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So how is that a UT failure instead of a personal decision by Tee? You make it sound like you are blaming Butch for not doing enough to land the top recruits in TN. Out of curiosity, what do you think Butch should have done better, specifically, to land the top instate talent?
 
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