Sudden Death Syndrome

What's causing the increase in sudden death and heart attacks

  • It's definitely being caused by the vaccine

    Votes: 45 34.1%

  • It's being caused by the virus itself

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • It could be either of the above

    Votes: 45 34.1%

  • I don't question the safety of the vaccine

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • I like pie

    Votes: 24 18.2%

  • There is no increase in sudden deaths and you conspiracy theorists are just super paranoid

    Votes: 15 11.4%
  • Total voters
    132
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I'm reading the book The Sports Gene from 2013 and they have a whole section about HCM. It details the condition, how it largely goes undetected, and how it leads to unexpected deaths in otherwise healthy athletes and I couldn't help but think about this thread where people seem to think heart attacks started happening in 2021

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n_huffhines said:
I'm reading the book The Sports Gene from 2013 and they have a whole section about HCM. It details the condition, how it largely goes undetected, and how it leads to unexpected deaths in otherwise healthy athletes and I couldn't help but think about this thread where people seem to think heart attacks started happening in 2021

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The Sports Gene - Wikipedia

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We all know heart attacks didn't just start happening in 2021. Denying that the mrna vaccines are causing any harm is pretty foolish when you consider the fact that The people behind the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) have admitted that “fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported”. (See page #6 in the report below)

818,042 Adverse Events
127,641 Doctor Visits
83,412 Hospitalizations
92,017 Urgent Care
26,199 Disabled
10,179 Bell’s Palsy
10,304 Myocarditis
8,408 Heart Attacks
2,631 Miscarriages
17,128 Deaths
 
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VolinWayne said:
We all know heart attacks didn't just start happening in 2021. Denying that the mrna vaccines are causing any harm is pretty foolish when you consider the fact that The people behind the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) have admitted that “fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported”. (See page #6 in the report below)

818,042 Adverse Events
127,641 Doctor Visits
83,412 Hospitalizations
92,017 Urgent Care
26,199 Disabled
10,179 Bell’s Palsy
10,304 Myocarditis
8,408 Heart Attacks
2,631 Miscarriages
17,128 Deaths
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This is not scientific. This is people getting the vax and then reporting stuff that happens after. Doctor visits? I've had 10 since the vax and didn't report them. Scary stuff!

I have not denied the vax causes harm, I am decrying the utter lack of science ITT.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This is not scientific. This is people getting the vax and then reporting stuff that happens after. Doctor visits? I've had 10 since the vax and didn't report them. Scary stuff!

I have not denied the vax causes harm, I am decrying the utter lack of science ITT.
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You have had 10 doctor visits due to an adverse reaction to the vaccine??? Thats what that is referring to. The CDC admits that less then 1% of adverse reactions get reported by the way. Just a few short years ago they actually relied on the VAERS reporting system to monitor the safety of new drugs and vaccines. Suddenly in 2021 VAERS is no longer reliable?? What's changed?
 
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n_huffhines said:
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For the sake of argument (because we all know that doctors would not be motivated to lie about these sorts of things today), let us assume that this was indeed a result of CHD. If that is the case, then to me that would have been all the reason for not getting the jab and it does nothing to eliminate the possibility that the jab may have been the trigger/catalyst for the event.
 
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VolinWayne said:
We all know heart attacks didn't just start happening in 2021. Denying that the mrna vaccines are causing any harm is pretty foolish when you consider the fact that The people behind the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) have admitted that “fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported”. (See page #6 in the report below)

818,042 Adverse Events
127,641 Doctor Visits
83,412 Hospitalizations
92,017 Urgent Care
26,199 Disabled
10,179 Bell’s Palsy
10,304 Myocarditis
8,408 Heart Attacks
2,631 Miscarriages
17,128 Deaths
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Your math assumes 1.7 million (17,128 ÷ .01) vax deaths. Do you know that has no basis in reality?
 
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Total Deaths in 2022 was 200K (3.4MM vs 3.2MM) lower than 2021. What makes this astonishing is that there was 1.7MM vax deaths based on Wayne's numbers in that 3.2MM figure...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Your math assumes 1.7 million (17,128 ÷ .01) vax deaths. Do you know that has no basis in reality?
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There just are not enough deaths to support a change in the trends that have been tracked since the 80s regardless of the reason for them. The increase over the last few years is less than the trend.


But I digress
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There just are not enough deaths to support a change in the trends that have been tracked since the 80s regardless of the reason for them. The increase over the last few years is less than the trend.


But I digress
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You saying that the cause of death for heart attack, stroke, cancer, suicide, car crashes, drugs, murder, etc. didn't fall by over 50% in 2022 to offset the 1.7 million excess vax deaths from Wayne's analysis....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You saying that the cause of death for heart attack, stroke, cancer, suicide, car crashes, drugs, murder, etc. didn't fall by over 50% in 2022 to offset the 1.7 million excess vax deaths from Wayne's analysis....
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There are more than a few people compiling data. There is no vast conspiracy to suppress the truth so pharmaceutical companies can make money
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Total Deaths in 2022 was 200K (3.4MM vs 3.2MM) lower than 2021. What makes this astonishing is that there was 1.7MM vax deaths based on Wayne's numbers in that 3.2MM figure...
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See now you are attempting to say I said something that I did not say. I simply stated that they estimate Vaers is vastly under-reported and I used the number they provided in the study.
 
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VolinWayne said:
See now you are attempting to say I said something that I did not say. I simply stated that they estimate Vaers is vastly under-reported and I used the number they provided in the study.
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You posted something that said 17K vax deaths and less than 1% reported.


Don't shy away, where's the 1.7 million deaths. It shouldn't be hard to find that many dead people...they are Democrat voters next yr
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You posted something that said 17K vax deaths and less than 1% reported.


Don't shy away, where's the 1.7 million deaths. It shouldn't be hard to find that many dead people...they are Democrat voters next yr
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I should have quoted the entire paragraph from the study I provided. The "fewer then 1%" was referring to adverse events. They say 1-13% of serious events get reported.

“Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health.”
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
For the sake of argument (because we all know that doctors would not be motivated to lie about these sorts of things today), let us assume that this was indeed a result of CHD. If that is the case, then to me that would have been all the reason for not getting the jab and it does nothing to eliminate the possibility that the jab may have been the trigger/catalyst for the event.
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Wtf
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Since when is it not normal for someone to die in their 70s?
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Your attempt at normalizing sudden death is noted. I realize that heart attacks are nothing new but I don't recall them ever happening on such a regular occurrence. We know that a side effect of both covid and the vaccine is myocarditis. That is a fact that is undeniable.

Look I understand and I respect your opinion given the numbers that you see. My thing is when you see all of these sudden deaths and health issues in the news and when you personally know people who are dealing with these various health issues and there is one common denominator in the majority of these people I think that's the point where we need to start asking questions. I personally know a handful of people who started having issues with their hearts immediately after they were vaccinated. I also have friends who seem to be immune-compromised since taking the covid shot. Thankfully my mother-in-laws doctor instructed her to not take any more boosters after she had a reaction to her last one.
 
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