Sweeping Sexual Assault Suit Filed Against UT

[Darth_Shiveman]

Your first question. Let's just say I have been in a classroom very very recently.


Your second statement shows your ignorance on this subject. A "victim"
Of a sexual assault is 100% apart of the group you just described as being incapable of being able to attend a class especially where their peers are present that are aware of such an alleged incident

Very very ignorant of you not to realize that. Perhaps as ignorant as using a kids major life changing injury to further a classless argument on the internet.

Hopefully the irony of this isn't lost on you. You're not missing the blue font, are you? You were the one to bring Inky Johnson into this.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Your first question. Let's just say I have been in a classroom very very recently.


Your second statement shows your ignorance on this subject. A "victim"
Of a sexual assault is 100% apart of the group you just described as being incapable of being able to attend a class especially where their peers are present that are aware of such an alleged incident

Very very ignorant of you not to realize that. Perhaps as ignorant as using a kids major life changing injury to further a classless argument on the internet.

Also, you just changed your damn argument. You were talking about schedules being changed for the accused before.

Now you wanna change the argument and call me
Ignorant for saying sexual assault victims don't fit the criteria for someone who would qualify to not be able to attend a class? C'mon man. You're being intellectually dishonest.

Edit: actually I just realized I've been misreading these posts and we've been talking about the accuser having an altered schedule, not the accused. That's my bad and changes what My argument should have been. So a lot of this argument has been unnecessary.

So..um...I guess I owe you an apology: you may be totally insufferable and annoying, but you weren't wrong about this and I was wrong to call your argument intellectually dishonest.

 

[BruinVol]

Also, you just changed your damn argument. You were talking about schedules being changed for the accused before.

Now you wanna change the argument and call me
Ignorant for saying sexual assault victims don't fit the criteria for someone who would qualify to not be able to attend a class? C'mon man. You're being intellectually dishonest.

Edit: actually I just realized I've been misreading these posts and we've been talking about the accuser having an altered schedule, not the accused. That's my bad and changes what My argument should have been. So a lot of this argument has been unnecessary.

So..um...I guess I owe you an apology: you may be totally insufferable and annoying, but you weren't wrong about this and I was wrong to call your argument intellectually dishonest.

It's the schools obligation to provide a "safe" learning environment For every student


That could mean removing the accused, accuser, or witnesses from classes. It also could mean providing independent studies in such cases.

That's all I have been saying and still have no idea why anyone would argue with any of it

 

[BruinVol]

Hopefully the irony of this isn't lost on you. You're not missing the blue font, are you? You were the one to bring Inky Johnson into this.

Lol

Was I celebrating the injury to inky like your post was to Chubb?

GTFO with that bs

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

It's the schools obligation to provide a "safe" learning environment For every student


That could mean removing the accused, accuser, or witnesses from classes. It also could mean providing independent studies in such cases.

That's all I have been saying and still have no idea why anyone would argue with any of it

What you're getting contention on is the fact that you're acting as if it's impossible that a scenario could exist in which a professor would be incapable of meeting this burden.

Pretty much only that. I posted it like 10 times and you still glossed right over it.

 

[BruinVol]

What you're getting contention on is the fact that you're acting as if it's impossible that a scenario could exist in which a professor would be incapable of meeting this burden.

Pretty much only that. I posted it like 10 times and you still glossed right over it.

There is zero scenario where a professor can't work with a student independently if they are forced to do so with a medical or legal issue

And yes I have been in a classroom lately and perhaps not even sitting in a desk listening so you might want to stop with the silly childish post you have zero freaking idea what you are talking about

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

There is zero scenario where a professor can't work with a student independently if they are forced to do so with a medical or legal issue

And yes I have been in a classroom lately and perhaps not even sitting in a desk listening so you might want to stop with the silly childish post you have zero freaking idea what you are talking about

Whatever, professor run-on sentence.

I'm sure you have some very serious research that keeps you on Volnation during so much of your free time. Really world changing stuff, I'm sure.

Try not to take out your message board anger on the undergrads, DrBruinLeb ost-4-1090547912:

 

[BruinVol]

Whatever, professor run-on sentence.

I'm sure you have some very serious research that keeps you on Volnation during so much of your free time. Really world changing stuff, I'm sure.

Try not to take out your message board anger on the undergrads, DrBruinLeb ost-4-1090547912:

You know the ammo is spent when the grammar police show up here. Better than showing your trailer park class with videos of kids with life changing injures

Too bad you spent all the ammo and missed on all your targets and have to resort to such tactics

 

[Kristy*]

What you're getting contention on is the fact that you're acting as if it's impossible that a scenario could exist in which a professor would be incapable of meeting this burden.

Pretty much only that. I posted it like 10 times and you still glossed right over it.

You might as well give up, Darth. It's like playing tennis against a wall. No matter what you do, you can't win. Note that 99.9% of us agree with you. :hi:

 

[BruinVol]

You might as well give up, Darth. It's like playing tennis against a wall. No matter what you do, you can't win. Note that 99.9% of us agree with you. :hi:

And 99.9% are living in a fantasy world if that's true

If a Professor is told by administration to work with a student independently with a legal or medical issue then they have no other choice than to do so if they want to keep their job

Simple really

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

You know the ammo is spent when the grammar police show up here. Better than showing your trailer park class with videos of kids with life changing injures

Too bad you spent all the ammo and missed on all your targets and have to resort to such tactics

You're right, a much classier, superior method of debate would be to accuse people I disagree with of living in a trailer park.

 

[BruinVol]

You're right, a much classier, superior method of debate would be to accuse people I disagree with of living in a trailer park.

.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Those are the types that celebrate when people get hurt. Sorry to stereotype but I have spent plenty of time around such People. Your post fits the mold

Ok, just to clear things up:

Posting a picture of a player getting injured to spite someone you dislike=classless, problematic.

Lumping in an entire socioeconomic class of people together and declaring them all classless=no problem.

Never change Bruin, never change. Without you're flawless moral guidance, this board would be lost. I mean as long as you completely disregard the fact that Nick Chubb is no worse for the wear thanks to my post and yours is willfully perpetuating harmful stereotypes.

 

[BruinVol]

Ok, just to clear things up:

Posting a picture of a player getting injured to spite someone you dislike=classless, problematic.

.

Laughing about an injury in any context is classless

 

[BruinVol]

People who live in a trailer park celebrate other people getting hurt? Come on man. Ridiculous post is ridiculous.

Agreed

I apologize for the Donald trump(whom I despise) like comment.

Will delete post

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Laughing about an injury in any context is classless

Ever watched the three stooges?

 

[BruinVol]

Ever watched the three stooges?

You mean the show that isn't real life?

You see a kid with a life changing injury isn't a 30min comedy on tv.

Dear lord now you are firing blanks

 

[TN Outlaw]

So I came to this thread to learn any news on the law suit but instead I learned if I post a pic/video of a player getting injured from my trailor that I'm a bad bad man. I'll pass the word to my hoodlum friends at the trailor park. Wait, I live in a house..whew, bullet dodged!!!

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

You mean the show that isn't real life?

You see a kid with a life changing injury isn't a 30min comedy on tv.

You're the one who said any context.

Maybe choose your words a bit more carefully was my point. The world isn't just black and white. I'd figure someone with multiple Ph.Ds would have figured that out

 

[BruinVol]

You're the one who said any context.

Maybe choose your words a bit more carefully was my point. The world isn't just black and white. I'd figure someone with multiple Ph.Ds would have figured that out

Lol

I guess I gave you to much credit for assuming you knew the difference between reality and make believe. More evidence your thinking is at a real child like level

 

[Orangedogsrule]

I am not sure from whom the "order" would come from but yes I am saying if in title IX cases a victim misses class time due to the traumatic circumstance the professor 100% has an obligation to work with that student independently.

You guys saying professors aren't obligated to adjusting their class in special circumstances aren't thinking straight. You think a kid like inky Johnson who had a lengthy hospital stay wasn't given some independent studies to complete those classes he was in that fall semester of his traumatic injury? Sure he was and so are all students that have real traumatic events happen to them in the middle of semesters

First off, I fat fingered the like trying to hit quote as I was chuckling over this.

Having about ripped my head off in a boating accident, and wearing a neck brace for the better part of a year, the University of Tennessee, in all it's wisdom, gave me these concessions:
1) A handicap parking pass that, when the first semester was over and I went to pick up my grades, I also picked up a parking ticket as the days between semesters aren't included. grrr!

2) Directed me to the student center where, as a commuter, I could rent a locker so I didn't have to carry all my books, all day.

As for perfessers meeting with me to help catch back up? ...nada ... unless you count my showing up at their regularly posted office hours to get notes and take tests I missed. But that was all on me. Every bit. They don't care if you show or not.

Now, as my experience applies to Title IX .. I doubt most handle it any other way. However, the athletic department may help arrange the the logistics of scholarship athletes and their schedules with instructors office hours. I bet, but do not know, they probably do because of the importance of grades in eligibility. The school probably has a directive about it. But whether an instructor is willing to meet outside their regularly posted office hours, and how much effort they are willing to put into getting students caught up I'm believing is up to them. Setting up a whole new course with differing hours is unrealistic.

 

[vol81]

Bruin may I respectfully suggest that before you post, pause and think about whether you really want to say what you think you do. Reactionary and stream of consciousness type posts seem to get you in trouble.

 

[BruinVol]

First off, I fat fingered the like trying to hit quote as I was chuckling over this.

Having about ripped my head off in a boating accident, and wearing a neck brace for the better part of a year, the University of Tennessee, in all it's wisdom, gave me these concessions:
1) A handicap parking pass that, when the first semester was over and I went to pick up my grades, I also pucked up a parking ticket as the days between semesters aren't included. grrr!

2) Directed me to the student center where, as a commuter, I could rent a locker so I didn't have to carry all my books, all day.

As for perfessers meeting with me to help catch back up? ...nada ... unless you count my showing up at their regularly posted office hours to get notes and take tests I missed. But ghat was all on me. Every bit. They don't care if you show or not.

Now, as my experience applies to Title IX .. I doubt they handle it any other way. However, the atletic department may help arrange the logistics of scholarship athletes and their schedules with instructors office hours. Probably do because of the importance of grades in eligibility. But whether an instructor is willing to meet outside their regularly posted office hours, and how much effort they are willing to put into getting students caught up I'll bet is up to them. Setting up a whole new course with differing hours is unrealistic.

Remember I have been saying professors can be "forced" to work with students. I know for a fact most professors don't want to and won't unless they are forced.

And trust me that any title9 issue has every college scared into conforming the best way it can and that includes administration making sure professors accommodate their students in such cases

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Remember I have been saying professors can be "forced" to work with students. I know for a fact most professors don't want to and won't unless they are forced.

And trust me that any title9 issue has every college scared into conforming the best way it can and that includes administration making sure professors accommodate their students in such cases

And I'm saying "forcing" an instructor to set up a complete course to accomodate a Title IX issue such as is the topic here is beyond reasonable. If, indeed as you say Title IX requires it; that should by all reasonable fairness be up to the university to develop AND STAFF. I believe it is not individual instructors responsibility... unless they are willing and are properly compensated.

 

[BruinVol]

And I'm saying "forcing" an instructor to set up a complete course to accomodate a Title IX issue such as is the topic here is beyond reasonable. If, indeed as you say Title IX requires it; that should by all reasonable fairness be up to the university to develop AND STAFF. I believe it is not individual instructors responsibility... unless they are willing and are properly compensated.

You have the right to think what your are going to but that is false.


If a girl is raped and misses class time due to the emotional distress the school is obligated to work with her and the professor has zero say in that matter. It's really simple

Hoping we have other real topics to discuss here but this one is over. Some of you don't understand the legal issues universities have and it appears that isn't changing.