Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

Do you care?

  • No

    Votes: 40 23.4%
  • Hell No

    Votes: 47 27.5%
  • Yes, we should invade and send in Troops

    Votes: 25 14.6%
  • I like Pie

    Votes: 59 34.5%

  • Total voters
    171
I thought I read somewhere that Biden accelerated the timeline after his own intelligence told him they needed 800 days to withdraw. Also, the Taliban didn't adhere to their side of the deal so why did the admin.?

Biden didn't adhere to the deal. The deal was to be out by May 1.
 
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I agree to a great extent about the idealists and the profiteers, but I honestly don't think our political types are intelligent enough to understand other cultures and thoughts (RESET BUTTON). Those who do are likely a little like the MIC in that they try to figure out which direction earns them more political points and campaign dough.
There are ivory tower-types (who are important, because the stuff they put out ends up being the intellectual basis for much of our foreign policy) who probably genuinely believed our stated goals in Afghanistan could be achieved. Same with Iraq. As you said, there might be some politicians who genuinely thought those goals could be achieved.

However the people who actually call the shots I'm sure strongly suspected those goals were unfeasible, and once we got on the ground there they knew they were unfeasible, but it doesn't really matter to them. The goals of those people are different from the stated goals.
 
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How long before the "moderate" (sane) Dems start huddling with the "moderate" (sane) Repubs and yank this stupid chain.

They have a huge problem though ... explaining how 81M Americans in a supposedly straight election could be so wrong. Remember in the obama days when anything was questioned "the people have spoken". This would cast doubt on the competency of the American voter and/or the electoral process - particularly the popular vote.
 
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to f things up!"
Barack Obama
48 years, at this point I don't blame Joe. I blame those that continue to let Joe be himself. Same guy told Barack to not go after and kill Osama.

Thanks Joe, I know what we have to do- Obama
End result was a double tap and Joe wrong again.
 
Wow - terrible speech.

1. made an argument for getting out of Afghanistan - that had already been decided and not very controversial
2. placed all blame on Afghani leadership and forces - if he didn't see this coming he's an idiot
3. made no statement telling Taliban to stand down or warning of consequences if they harm any of our people or those we are protecting
4. took no questions
5. downplayed the situation we are seeing
6. made it about himself

those on the ground in Afghanistan got zero hope from this
That’s our President people! Most popular one ever too! 81M votes!
 
I keep hearing these admin officials and State Dept people saying they’re expecting the “new govt of Afghanistan to live up to their commitment to an inclusive govt, including women.” What damn planet do these people live on??? Do they expect people to buy this load of 💩??!! Do they not understand, even now, how the Taliban operates and behaves?? I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror if I had to carry that water for this admin and make myself look that stupid.
 
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