Tea parties....

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#151
hatvol96 said:
Since you quoted his idiotic diatribe, why don't you go see how much Begala screamed about making sure Walter Reed Hospital, or the VA in general, had proper funding when he was at Clinton's side. Paul Begala accusing someone of partisan demagoguery is akin to Joan Rivers calling someone out for an addiction to plastic surgery.
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Using Begala as evidence of anything is like citing the National Enquirer as your source.
 
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volinbham said:
It's unfortunate that Hannity was so involved - he will be the face of this thing. From what I saw throughout the day Hannity does not represent the core message of these protests.
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Sean Hannity, as always, was there promoting the one thing he holds most dear: Sean Hannity.
 
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volinbham said:
It's unfortunate that Hannity was so involved - he will be the face of this thing. From what I saw throughout the day Hannity does not represent the core message of these protests.
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100% agree. I call Obama an empty suit and would give the same title to Hannity.

It seems hard enough for these individualist/liberterian types to get together on an issue, then they do and some jackass like this will hijack it.
 
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volinbham said:
It's unfortunate that Hannity was so involved - he will be the face of this thing. From what I saw throughout the day Hannity does not represent the core message of these protests.
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^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^

I was going to make a post saying I hope Hannity and Limbaugh wouldn't taint the movement.
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The speakers at the ATL one were about 50% liberty lovers and 50% partisan. The 50% that were partisan, IMHO, tainted the message.

Heard a few speakers talking about revolting openly.

Wish someone would have talked about the evils of a central bank.

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The main thing I took out of today is how wildly out of touch with the pulse of the American public both parties are. The Democrats think the people taking to the streets today are wing nuts ginned up by talk radio blowhards and the GOP sees them as people at the ready to further an ideological Jihad against Barack Obama. They are both terribly mistaken.
 
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The rally was 7:00 – 10:00. There were a lot more people there than I expected. I am not sure how much was covered on TV but I hated that Sean and Newt started the 9:00 hour. I think Newt is a polarizing figure and Sean…well he is Sean. I liked how he tried to get “Joe the Plumber” to support his anti-Obama rant and Joe placed the blame with Congress.
 
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allvol123 said:
It seems hard enough for these individualist/liberterian types to get together on an issue, then they do and some jackass like this will hijack it.
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It's called co-opting a movement and trying to remove the threat, it made me sick to hear the "We the people Revolution", was stolen from the Ron Paul movement, a LOT of the ideas in the Tea Party were stolen from the Ron Paul movement.

hatvol96 said:
The main thing I took out of today is how wildly out of touch with the pulse of the American public both parties are. The Democrats think the people taking to the streets today are wing nuts ginned up by talk radio blowhards and the GOP sees them as people at the ready to further an ideological Jihad against Barack Obama. They are both terribly mistaken.
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I think people are starting to wake up to the fallacy of a 2 party system, it is mostly a way to label people and put them in a box. I've personally tried to stop doing this and look at all issues from an individualist vs. collectivist point of view and where I come down on each issue. I tend to lean much more towards the individualist solutions than the collectivist.

VolDad said:
I liked how he tried to get “Joe the Plumber” to support his anti-Obama rant and Joe placed the blame with Congress.
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That brought a smile to my face when he did that.

I'll make no bones about it, Ron Paul was my guy during the election cycle, I just don't get where all these people were at that time, he warned about every single thing that is happening now and everyone looked at him and his supporters as kooks.... guess it was a bad thing that snowballs were thrown at Hannity in NH (YouTube - Sean Hannity Chased Down By Angry Republicans).
 
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hatvol96 said:
The main thing I took out of today is how wildly out of touch with the pulse of the American public both parties are. The Democrats think the people taking to the streets today are wing nuts ginned up by talk radio blowhards and the GOP sees them as people at the ready to further an ideological Jihad against Barack Obama. They are both terribly mistaken.
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+1
 
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oklavol said:
Anderson Cooper referred to it as "teabagging" :lol:
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Yet another example of the media's disdain for anyone who dares question the wisdom of increasing spending and passing the buck down the line. What is funny is that these same commentators railed against Bush when he was in office and doing this very thing. Bush was a disaster but somehow they believe doing the same and expecting a different result is the right way to go now?
 
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KB5252 said:
Yet another example of the media's disdain for anyone who dares question the wisdom of increasing spending and passing the buck down the line. What is funny is that these same commentators railed against Bush when he was in office and doing this very thing. Bush was a disaster but somehow they believe doing the same and expecting a different result is the right way to go now?
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I am now also somewhat bemused by the outrage being expressed by the Republicans over homeland security watching extremist groups. A certain irony there.
 
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VolDad said:
The rally was 7:00 – 10:00. There were a lot more people there than I expected. I am not sure how much was covered on TV but I hated that Sean and Newt started the 9:00 hour. I think Newt is a polarizing figure and Sean…well he is Sean. I liked how he tried to get “Joe the Plumber” to support his anti-Obama rant and Joe placed the blame with Congress.
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ya he put the blame on congress which i agree with, but obama deserves his fair share. now that's not to say he's the only one that deserves it.

however don't mix that up w/ Joe the Plumber is an Obama fan, that is certainly not the case.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am now also somewhat bemused by the outrage being expressed by the Republicans over homeland security watching extremist groups. A certain irony there.
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I am not concerned with Homeland Security watching for radicals that threaten our society. I am however concerned with the broad brush they painted at least 40% of Americans with. It is hard to argue there was not an intent to marginalize many of those who dislike the current path this administration is taking.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am now also somewhat bemused by the outrage being expressed by the Republicans over homeland security watching extremist groups. A certain irony there.
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When they have no problem trying to offend conservatives but yet are going out of their way to not offend "man made disaster creators," I think there is a problem within the homeland security department.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
ya he put the blame on congress which i agree with, but obama deserves his fair share. now that's not to say he's the only one that deserves it.

however don't mix that up w/ Joe the Plumber is an Obama fan, that is certainly not the case.
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E.A.
 
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gotta get pelosi out, plain and simple. barney frank needs to be dropped kicked in the teeth. the stimulus package is garbage. LG what do you think about the Fair Tax?
 
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I'm continually entertained by critics that:

1. Make up what they think the events were about then trash their own version (e.g. the original BTP was about taxation without representation - don't these morons know they have representation? Duh.)

2. Claim it's not a grassroots movement - it's orchestrated. No crap sherlock of course it's organized just like the Million Man March was, just like all those war protests were. Unless all the attendees were paid to attend, it still qualifies to be called grassroots as much as any of those other events do.

3. It's simply hate-mongering, racists who hate Obama and poor people. Wrong again. The vast majority of signs were about irresponsible tax and spend actions of Congress and the White House --- coincidentally the purpose of the events. Wow. How did that happen.

4. References to attendees as whiners, sore losers, etc. Interesting that these comments come from many who screamed bloody murder about anything the previous administration did.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
ya he put the blame on congress which i agree with, but obama deserves his fair share. now that's not to say he's the only one that deserves it.

however don't mix that up w/ Joe the Plumber is an Obama fan, that is certainly not the case.
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I agree, but making it about Obama would give opponents (i.e., LG) an opportunity to label is as a right wing nuts. Keeping the message on Congress does not.
 
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volinbham said:
I'm continually entertained by critics that:

1. Make up what they think the events were about then trash their own version (e.g. the original BTP was about taxation without representation - don't these morons know they have representation? Duh.)

2. Claim it's not a grassroots movement - it's orchestrated. No crap sherlock of course it's organized just like the Million Man March was, just like all those war protests were. Unless all the attendees were paid to attend, it still qualifies to be called grassroots as much as any of those other events do.

3. It's simply hate-mongering, racists who hate Obama and poor people. Wrong again. The vast majority of signs were about irresponsible tax and spend actions of Congress and the White House --- coincidentally the purpose of the events. Wow. How did that happen.

4. References to attendees as whiners, sore losers, etc. Interesting that these comments come from many who screamed bloody murder about anything the previous administration did.
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All valid points.


VolDad said:
I agree, but making it about Obama would give opponents (i.e., LG) an opportunity to label is as a right wing nuts. Keeping the message on Congress does not.
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I think the point should be that there is plenty of blame to go around about how we've gotten here, Republican and Democrat. I honestly expected it to be more partisan than it was (it had its moments).

Fur future events, they ought to discourage from speaking anyone who has ever held, or is planning on seeking election to, any federal office.
 
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