Tee Martin for QB coach.

#51
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We have a full staff.

Which offensive coach do you suggest that we fire to hire an additional QB coach? One that hasn't coached quarterbacks since one unsuccessful year at New Mexico in 2009. One that has never coached quarterbacks in a spread offense.

You cannot talk common sense to these guys. They have tried to hire every coach that has been fired to day and ignored the reasons they were fired.
 
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So, Peyton retires and is offered a coaching position declines, and goes elsewhere, I'm buying stock in straight jackets and caskets. This place would burn down literally.
 
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What's funny is that we need all the help we can get. We haven't won here in a long time. So many people put their personal vendettas on this site & don't realize that we need a lot of help. If Tee wants to come back bring him back. Remember he bought us that crystal trophy!
 
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So even though we are not looking for nor can afford new coaches when one comes available someone should start a thread to ask if UT should pursue them?

Please tell me the whole offseason is not going to be like this.
 
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What's funny is that we need all the help we can get. We haven't won here in a long time. So many people put their personal vendettas on this site & don't realize that we need a lot of help. If Tee wants to come back bring him back. Remember he bought us that crystal trophy!

Ok, but again, who do you want to fire on the offensive staff now in order to hire him?
 
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His wife won't be able to launch that there fancy actressing career amongst them hillbillies!

:lolabove::eek:lol:

Tee is the man that took the Vols to the promised land,if it should ever come back up for him to be a coach here,i would be ok with it,but i don't see that happening
 
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I wish T well in his life, I fell no Ill will towards him.. But he turned us down once, that's all you get. There is no second chance to be a VFL.. you either are.. or you are not.

Yep. It's not "Vol for life except for those years where I choose to side with the man who *****ed over UT".

I don't buy the "It was what's best for his family" considering he has two kids in Knoxville.



His name is Benedict Martin as far as I'm concerned.
 
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The fact of the matter is this, many potential coaches look at Tennessee and see career suicide. They see no upside to righting all the wrongs, train wrecks, and simply dumb choices made by the university. Like it or not Tennessee is now a tainted brand name and the only way out of it is and unknown or unrecognized coach and staff to lead a roster of nobodys thru hard work and chemistry to wins. Once a string of wins is compiled coaches of celebrated note will think about taking the helm. It has to be a nobody that turns it around because no one with any reputation is going to put their reputation on the line until the stigma is gone. Critisize all you want but all these celebrated college geniuses of X's and O's know that they may come up short regardless of what their reputations are and regardless of what ESPN says about them and they won't risk it, the payoff isn't that attractive. Coaches are just people...and they observe politics, politics advise them that as much as Tennessee fans love Tennessee.....they will not risk being painted on the national stage a loser. Butch Jones has stepped forward, and said I will lead where no one else will...I will risk being labled a loser to bring this program back to the place it used to be. This is why I love coach Butch Jones, he has guts.
 
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More than turning us down, I lost all respect for T over not coming back so he could be close to his kid.

Plus you don't know why, nor care. Just spewing snot about something you know nothing about. What's the woman like who had this kid? Is she amicable or a hell-raiser who seeks any chance to make him and his new wife and family miserable? You don't know.

Out west I saw more than a few times saw women who used kids as a weapon against an ex- or boyfriend. One guy who last I checked, was still in jail DESPITE the fact the accusation of molesting the kid was proven to be false. Despite the the now older kid has stated her mom coached her to say what she did in court. Despite her efforts to get her dad out of jail. Despite the fact she now refuses to have ANYTHING to do with her mom. Hates her actually. Sometimes the smartest thing a parent or estrangled parent can do is just back off and let time take care of things.
But there will always be know nothings who will assume and presume things, and just be judgmental ash pits.

I hope Tee never comes to the UT and becomes extremely successful elsewhere. Too many snots here, you don't deserve him or his expertise. You damn him while saying nothing of his efforts to be hired here prior to his Kentucky tenure and shortly after in which he was basically told thanks but no thanks. Then when he does the same, suddenly he is the devil or worse. You people don't deserve him. He probably knows it and refused to come when Butch called. Can't say I blame him. Folks like you'd probably call for his execution if he farted and you didn't think it was loud enough. :realmad:
 
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The fact of the matter is this, many potential coaches look at Tennessee and see career suicide. They see no upside to righting all the wrongs, train wrecks, and simply dumb choices made by the university. Like it or not Tennessee is now a tainted brand name and the only way out of it is and unknown or unrecognized coach and staff to lead a roster of nobodys thru hard work and chemistry to wins. Once a string of wins is compiled coaches of celebrated note will think about taking the helm. It has to be a nobody that turns it around because no one with any reputation is going to put their reputation on the line until the stigma is gone. Critisize all you want but all these celebrated college geniuses of X's and O's know that they may come up short regardless of what their reputations are and regardless of what ESPN says about them and they won't risk it, the payoff isn't that attractive. Coaches are just people...and they observe politics, politics advise them that as much as Tennessee fans love Tennessee.....they will not risk being painted on the national stage a loser. Butch Jones has stepped forward, and said I will lead where no one else will...I will risk being labled a loser to bring this program back to the place it used to be. This is why I love coach Butch Jones, he has guts.

I'm not saying you're wrong. That being said, how do you see Bama as having been in a different situation before Saban took over? They had been down for longer than we've been, including harsher penalties than we've had, and a coach who was fired before coaching even a single game. Again, not saying you're wrong in the points you made, but why was a big name coach willing to go there when their situation was very similar to ours?
 
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Plus you don't know why, nor care. Just spewing snot about something you know nothing about. What's the woman like who had this kid? Is she amicable or a hell-raiser who seeks any chance to make him and his new wife and family miserable? You don't know.

Out west I saw more than a few times saw women who used kids as a weapon against an ex- or boyfriend. One guy who last I checked, was still in jail DESPITE the fact the accusation of molesting the kid was proven to be false. Despite the the now older kid has stated her mom coached her to say what she did in court. Despite her efforts to get her dad out of jail. Despite the fact she now refuses to have ANYTHING to do with her mom. Hates her actually. Sometimes the smartest thing a parent or estrangled parent can do is just back off and let time take care of things.
But there will always be know nothings who will assume and presume things, and just be judgmental ash pits.

I hope Tee never comes to the UT and becomes extremely successful elsewhere. Too many snots here, you don't deserve him or his expertise. You damn him while saying nothing of his efforts to be hired here prior to his Kentucky tenure and shortly after in which he was basically told thanks but no thanks. Then when he does the same, suddenly he is the devil or worse. You people don't deserve him. He probably knows it and refused to come when Butch called. Can't say I blame him. Folks like you'd probably call for his execution if he farted and you didn't think it was loud enough. :realmad:

For me personally, it isn't just that he turned down UT, but who he chose to coach for *instead of* UT. He professes to be VFL, yet he turned down UT to coach for the man who set his alma mater back several years at least. I wasn't mad at Jay Graham for leaving us for FSU; I was disappointed, yeah, but I wasn't mad. Likewise, I wouldn't have been mad at Martin had he chose to coach at any number of other schools, but the fact remains he had a choice to coach for the University of Tennessee and assisting in returning it to the glory days that we experienced when he was the QB, yet he instead decided that he would rather help LK, the man who royally screwed over UT, try to return USC to its former glory.

I'll always be thankful to Tee Martin for being instrumental in bringing another National Title to Knoxville, but he showed everyone where his priorities lay when he chose USC and Kiffin over UTK and his kids. As far as your story about some random dude allegedly being in jail only because of accusations that have since been proven false, that is completely immaterial to the topic at hand. As if "My baby's mama is a b***h" is a legit excuse to move all the way across the country. Give me a break.
 
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For me personally, it isn't just that he turned down UT, but who he chose to coach for *instead of* UT. He professes to be VFL, yet he turned down UT to coach for the man who set his alma mater back several years at least. I wasn't mad at Jay Graham for leaving us for FSU; I was disappointed, yeah, but I wasn't mad. Likewise, I wouldn't have been mad at Martin had he chose to coach at any number of other schools, but the fact remains he had a choice to coach for the University of Tennessee and assisting in returning it to the glory days that we experienced when he was the QB, yet he instead decided that he would rather help LK, the man who royally screwed over UT, try to return USC to its former glory.

I'll always be thankful to Tee Martin for being instrumental in bringing another National Title to Knoxville, but he showed everyone where his priorities lay when he chose USC and Kiffin over UTK and his kids. As far as your story about some random dude allegedly being in jail only because of accusations that have since been proven false, that is completely immaterial to the topic at hand. As if "My baby's mama is a b***h" is a legit excuse to move all the way across the country. Give me a break.
So where you mad at Daniel Hood for thanking LK for giving him a shot on the team?
 
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The fact of the matter is this, many potential coaches look at Tennessee and see career suicide.

UT is not career suicide and their brand is not tainted. The program, for various well-known reasons, has underperformed mightily the last 5 years. A good number of traditional powers have had down periods as long or longer in recent years.

Look at it this way: Butch Jones, who you support, only brought in a handful of 4* athletes at his other posts. He currently has 16-17 commits this year alone..so far.
Is it fair to say he has a whole lot more to sell?
 
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For me personally, it isn't just that he turned down UT, but who he chose to coach for *instead of* UT. He professes to be VFL, yet he turned down UT to coach for the man who set his alma mater back several years at least. I wasn't mad at Jay Graham for leaving us for FSU; I was disappointed, yeah, but I wasn't mad. Likewise, I wouldn't have been mad at Martin had he chose to coach at any number of other schools, but the fact remains he had a choice to coach for the University of Tennessee and assisting in returning it to the glory days that we experienced when he was the QB, yet he instead decided that he would rather help LK, the man who royally screwed over UT, try to return USC to its former glory.

I'll always be thankful to Tee Martin for being instrumental in bringing another National Title to Knoxville, but he showed everyone where his priorities lay when he chose USC and Kiffin over UTK and his kids. As far as your story about some random dude allegedly being in jail only because of accusations that have since been proven false, that is completely immaterial to the topic at hand. As if "My baby's mama is a b***h" is a legit excuse to move all the way across the country. Give me a break.

I gave you a break. Told you several times you don't know why Tee said no. Also told you that you ignored the fact he sought to be employed at UT but was ignored. But you insist on assuming and presuming about something you don't know about. A lot of you folks do this to our players and ex-players. I was stunned that CBJ got A. Foster and (forgot his name) other player who hadn't been back for ages to show up for visits. The hatefulness they experienced would make anyone stay away. That Tee actually sought to return when he did is amazing. But now I'd say, Tee, stay away to avoid more hating already evident.
 

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