Tennessee QB Harrison Bailey enters NCAA transfer portal

[nomads-11]

Arkansas State......

 

[Vols4life]

The list is pretty long and somewhat distinguished

I'd love a list of names if you have any....my head is only reminding me of Peterman and Shaffer and neither of them really light it up

 

[GVF]

Then what’s the reason why Bailey cannot get on the field? I mean we have a head coach who has a history of developing QBs. I mean look at what he has done with Hooker. Heupel has seen more practice videos than anyone on this site by a country mile. Clearly he and this staff have seen something that makes them think he isn’t a good QB. I have no idea what it is. But to just blatantly say that Bailey is better than Milton? Don’t know how you can say that.

Heupal has proven already he can take what he has and do something with it. The product on the field will only bring wins as he fills the roster out. I'm sure he can evaluate a QB based on his needs and scheme. Bailey not winning out the job doesn't mean he's bad. It just means he doesn't work well for Heupal.

 

[birdie74]

I wonder if you have any remote idea how tired and mindless your argument is? It can be eviscerated simply by two words: Joe Milton.

As in, this infallible coach we have that never could have possibly made a wrong evaluation of a quarterback in practice, chose Milton over Hooker and Bailey both. So the notion that our coach was infallible in his evaluation of Bailey because he saw him in practice, just doesn't hold water. We all saw how horrifically bad Milton was, and Heupel chose him over Bailey and Hooker both.

It's possible that Bailey would not have done well had he gotten a fair shake; but he absolutely did not get said fair shake, just speaking of the far less time he got in games than either Milton or Hooker.

The “not getting a fair shake” argument is even more tiring. It is my understanding that Bailey was actually 4th string before Maurer departed.

 

[butchna]

If this is true, then I don't know why there's so much well wishing toward him on here. He is sticking a knife in us on the way out and he could've waited a few weeks. What's the rule that you are talking about? I don't know how that works.

I thought it was immediately after the season, but the earliest they can enter the portal is December 15. That’s a pretty lengthy timeframe to wait around, so that changes my opinion on this subject.

 

[butchna]

Heupel could have continued to start Hooker and still gotten Bailey in more frequently in cleanup time.

Would have wasted a season of eligibility. Heupel did him a solid.

 

[butchna]

There's alot to that statement. He had good protection at one of the top high schools in GA, with a beast of a receiver on the other end. He didn't have to read a lot of D. He was certainly a fit in Pruitt's Offense, and if he were still coach here, Bailey or Maurer could have just as easily plugged in as Hooker.

His OL at Marietta was no roadgrading unit. Ojulari had to play OT. The system worked for Bailey because he got the ball out quickly and accurately.

 

[butchna]

I'd love a list of names if you have any....my head is only reminding me of Peterman and Shaffer and neither of them really light it up

And they were beaten out by equally high rated QBs on the roster…which defeats the argument.

 

[SGMVols]

The “not getting a fair shake” argument is even more tiring. It is my understanding that Bailey was actually 4th string before Maurer departed.

That argument comes from a generation of people who played little league games where they didn’t keep score and everyone got a trophy.

 

[sjt18]

Maybe not. Maurer, much as I liked him, had mental health issues. It was probably to his betterment that he left before he shattered irretrievably.

Bailey, I hate seeing him leave and think it is a mistake. The captain is our man, but the SEC beats up QBs who lack a consistent OL. Hooker is at risk, the Milt man is highly questionable, the door was, however slightly, ajar for Bailey. 2022, he'd be #2, more likely to see the field as a result. But, I hope he balls out wherever he goes.

Not being ugly about it... I hope you understand... but I don't care what Bailey or Maurer do now that they aren't Vols unless they're playing UT... then I hope the fail badly.

I don't expect others to be like me but I'm a Vol fan. I am an interested but mostly neutral observer of CFB generally. Outside of rooting for UT... I usually root for whatever will cause the most mayhem.... fun. I don't follow the NFL in part because the game isn't as interesting to me and in part because I've long since gotten over the privilege and attitude that many of them have. I don't like the NFL for a reason similar to why I never thought Pamela Anderson was attractive.... fake boobs and plastic faces aren't pretty to me. The NFL is just too much entertainment and not enough football for my tastes.

So... my interest is UT Vols football.

 

[sjt18]

I'd love a list of names if you have any....my head is only reminding me of Peterman and Shaffer and neither of them really light it up

Me too.

 

[sjt18]

The “not getting a fair shake” argument is even more tiring. It is my understanding that Bailey was actually 4th string before Maurer departed.

He actually appeared to have passed Maurer which led to Maurer's hissy fit and transfer.

 

[sjt18]

Assuming it was “his” decision to leave I would agree. Maurers case is different and I don’t expect anyone to believe me of all people on here but I’ve never lied and would hope that would stand for something. You have my word that it was NOT talent related NOR his decision to leave Tennessee. His departure was “incident” related and quite honestly understandable given what we’ve learned since.

I'm not sure what the last part means. What have we learned since that might explain it?

The public impression even from the hints he dropped was that he didn't like being dropped from the August competition and reacted negatively.

 

[sjt18]

If he truly can't beat out Milton, he needs to go the FCS route

I won't claim to understand it. I'm surprised by it based on what we've seen from Milton both physically and mentally. Physically... he can't throw on target or with touch. Mentally... he into the defense with no time on the clock and then steps out of bounds to avoid a hit. If there was a crease then he should have sold out to dive through it. If there wasn't then he should have thrown it up for grabs if nothing else. That was a play every bit as stupid as what JG did vs Bama.

 

[a vol n tears]

What gives you the impression that he is a good college qb? He’s been buried on the depth chart of two staffs at Tennessee, he’d be lucky to be a backup for any sec team except maybe Vandy.
I think Heupel has proved with Hooker, he can mold the offense to fit what his quarterback can do. So the narrative that Bailey just doesn’t fit the system is not true. He is simply not very good..

So you are saying a Freshman that doesn’t start isn’t going to be a good player. I think too many people forget that the kid is basically a redshirt FR this year with no coaching last year. Part of this probably is because he committed early and his name has been mentioned on this board for 3 years. He was highly rated, but not as a dual threat. Give him a system for his style, a year to learn, mature, and get stronger and then declare him a failure. He has 4 years of eligibility left. I would bet he gets multiple offers from Power 5 schools.
Oh, Mac Jones ring a bell? Not good enough to start until he was a SR. Now starting in NFL as a rookie. Guess fans thought he wasn’t good enough either.

 

[Old Geezer]

Some of yall are embarrassing with this crush you have on HB. I had high hopes for him but when TWO staffs wont play him...that should tell you something.

And his ridiculous HS stats are indicative of the amount of talent he had around him. Watch the championship game, his last game in hs. His stats were impressive due to his TE that was a true 5 star prospect

I noticed you have no answer in all that nonsense. Rather than lying about a supposed 'crush', tell us why a 5-star QB with ridiculous stats should have been overlooked for Joe Milton ?

 

[Vol_sanity]

He's not playing anyway, why stay and waste his time?

They get quite a bit from the university. They are signing up to be a part of the team. This is quitting on your team and university 3/4 of the way through the season. Wasting his time? Getting to practice and workout in the SEC?

 

[amishvol]

I understand his decision to transfer and I think everyone here expected it at the end of the season. I do question his decision to transfer with a month left in the season. What's the point of transferring with four games left? If Hooker and Milton were to get hurt that would leave us with no scholarship quarterbacks. I'm not upset that someone transfers, just hate it when a player leaves his team in the middle of the season.

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

Hearing from my family that Purdue could be interested....I know they recruited him also

 

[BigALWiLson]

No. Vandergrift is riding the bench and will take the next turn.

Everything I know says Vadergriff isnt that good according to UGA people I know. Least thats the rumor

 

[BigALWiLson]

I understand his decision to transfer and I think everyone here expected it at the end of the season. I do question his decision to transfer with a month left in the season. What's the point of transferring with four games left? If Hooker and Milton were to get hurt that would leave us with no scholarship quarterbacks. I'm not upset that someone transfers, just hate it when a player leaves his team in the middle of the season.

Bailey doesn't owe anyone anything. Maybe his tram mates and coaches already knew he would transfer.

 

[Woke]

Not being ugly about it... I hope you understand... but I don't care what Bailey or Maurer do now that they aren't Vols unless they're playing UT... then I hope the fail badly.

I don't expect others to be like me but I'm a Vol fan. I am an interested but mostly neutral observer of CFB generally. Outside of rooting for UT... I usually root for whatever will cause the most mayhem.... fun. I don't follow the NFL in part because the game isn't as interesting to me and in part because I've long since gotten over the privilege and attitude that many of them have. I don't like the NFL for a reason similar to why I never thought Pamela Anderson was attractive.... fake boobs and plastic faces aren't pretty to me. The NFL is just too much entertainment and not enough football for my tastes.

So... my interest is UT Vols football.

You lost me at “fake boobs and plastic faces” LOL.

Wish Bailey good luck at his next stop. Don’t know the internal impact this will have on our team whether positive or negative, but should certainly reduce some division among fans.

My guess is Milton is gone after this year too as Heup hits the portal hard to level up our QB room.

If I was a stud QB waiting in line on a loaded team I’d be open to an offer for substantial or possibly immediate playing time from a QB guru like Heupel.

 

[sjt18]

Wish Bailey good luck at his next stop. Don’t know the internal impact this will have on our team whether positive or negative, but should certainly reduce some division among fans.

Maybe. It will most likely purge the board of people who came only because of Bailey. There are a few. OTOH, every time someone else messes up... someone will bring up the "5 star Heupel couldn't develop".

My guess is Milton is gone after this year too as Heup hits the portal hard to level up our QB room.

If I was a stud QB waiting in line on a loaded team I’d be open to an offer for substantial or possibly immediate playing time from a QB guru like Heupel.

Agree. A guy with at least 3 years of eligibility behind a "star" QB should be tempted by what Heupel is doing. A guy could back up Hooker for a year and then have a huge opportunity.

The thing with Milton is that he's already taken his transfer and doesn't have enough time to sit out a year. I actually think moving to a strong FCS program would be a great move for him. Otherwise, I'm not sure he has a lot of options.

 

[sjt18]

He's not playing anyway, why stay and waste his time?

Well, because it isn't wasting time. He's getting practice and personal development. He's sitting through game planning and learning how to watch film. He's gaining experience he can't gain on his couch.

Also... if Hooker gets hurt and Milton flops again... Bailey could have gotten his shot. Now he can't. Hooker got his shot because Milton got hurt. He made the best of it and is now clearly "the man". Could have happened for HB too.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Hooker... wasn't his guy. Heupel had no intention of playing someone who had not earned it.

I didn't get to watch practice either. But the portions we did see... he was not the most accurate, did not have the most arm strength, did not have a significant advantage in getting the ball off, and wasn't more accurate. The rumors circulated that it wasn't any better in the closed portions of practice. He just wasn't as good as the others.

To assume that Heupel had ANY sort of personal bias against Bailey is just foolish.

Heupel wasnt gonna play Hooker either until Milton got hurt. Your kiding yourself if you think otherwise and we are Fūcked if Hooker turns pro. I think bothQbs felt like they were better than Milton. And to be comletely fair. I take HB all day everyday over a guy like Milton. He doesn't have it, never has. Heupel is the best coach we have had since Fulmer but his handling of the Qbs was suspect. I dont believe Milton earned it. I think he was going to be #1 from the moment he signed. I am glad Hooker saved the day because otherwise we would likely be begging for another guy.