Tennessee Vols Basketball Recruiting

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Brandon Miller, apparently, impressed today at the state tournament as he led his team to a win over Bearden. How are we sitting there?
 
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Unimane said:
Brandon Miller, apparently, impressed today at the state tournament as he led his team to a win over Bearden. How are we sitting there?
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I don't know about '23. Tennessee is pushing hard for B.J. Edwards, Brandon Miller, Felix Okpara, Brandon Huntley-Hatfield and Handje Tamba in '22. I'm sure there will be some others once coaches can get on the road and evaluate again.
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-VQ
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Barnes will have to have some major late career magic after this to make the Hall of Fame. Games like today are too prominent in a career that celebrates post season success above all.
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He is a career Under achieving coach. Look at some of the players he had at Texas and they made 1 Final 4. He’s so overrated
 
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Watched the Miller kid out of Cane Ridge, from the '22 class, bring his team back from a huge deficit tonight at the state quarterfinals. He is incredibly talented and long as hell. He can be sloppy, too, but he'd be a great get for next year's class.
 
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Plain and simple, Barnes is not at his best with 1-2 year players aka 5 stars. He is at his best when he has 2-4 year players that he can develop. While a coach is responsible for managing the team makeup, Barnes has never been good to great when he's had 1 year players (guys playing for sole reason to fulfill the NBA 1 year in college rule)......

While his success in developing guys like Punter, Grant, Admiral, Fulk, Pons, Bowden, and Turner laid the foundation to get guys like JJJ, Keon, and Springer, he literally has to be a coach he has never been before. I always thought he was going to be here 8-10 seasons before retiring. This was a run out the clock job for him while also having the best resume of any coach we could hire in the last 20 years, if not longer. Regardless, he will leave this job and program in much better shape than when he found it. I just hope that his recruiting keeps up and he can cement that pipeline for the next guy.

I do not get the people clamoring for his head (not all are), but there isn't a clear upgrade option over him that presents itself.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Plain and simple, Barnes is not at his best with 1-2 year players aka 5 stars. He is at his best when he has 2-4 year players that he can develop. While a coach is responsible for managing the team makeup, Barnes has never been good to great when he's had 1 year players (guys playing for sole reason to fulfill the NBA 1 year in college rule)......

While his success in developing guys like Punter, Grant, Admiral, Fulk, Pons, Bowden, and Turner laid the foundation to get guys like JJJ, Keon, and Springer, he literally has to be a coach he has never been before. I always thought he was going to be here 8-10 seasons before retiring. This was a run out the clock job for him while also having the best resume of any coach we could hire in the last 20 years, if not longer. Regardless, he will leave this job and program in much better shape than when he found it. I just hope that his recruiting keeps up and he can cement that pipeline for the next guy.

I do not get the people clamoring for his head (not all are), but there isn't a clear upgrade option over him that presents itself.
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The problem with those guys are they arent talented enough to win it all. You need some of that 5* talent to get the big wins.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
The problem with those guys are they arent talented enough to win it all. You need some of that 5* talent to get the big wins.
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Correct. Developing guys in the way he did with Grant and Admiral means the program gets better and higher expectations. Those two things means recruiting gets more competitive and better and even higher expectations.

I don’t think Barnes is losing, but I also don’t think he’s good at adjusting his team and strategy on a year by year basis. He didn’t have to do that with a core of 3-4 year guys.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Plain and simple, Barnes is not at his best with 1-2 year players aka 5 stars. He is at his best when he has 2-4 year players that he can develop. While a coach is responsible for managing the team makeup, Barnes has never been good to great when he's had 1 year players (guys playing for sole reason to fulfill the NBA 1 year in college rule)......

While his success in developing guys like Punter, Grant, Admiral, Fulk, Pons, Bowden, and Turner laid the foundation to get guys like JJJ, Keon, and Springer, he literally has to be a coach he has never been before. I always thought he was going to be here 8-10 seasons before retiring. This was a run out the clock job for him while also having the best resume of any coach we could hire in the last 20 years, if not longer. Regardless, he will leave this job and program in much better shape than when he found it. I just hope that his recruiting keeps up and he can cement that pipeline for the next guy.

I do not get the people clamoring for his head (not all are), but there isn't a clear upgrade option over him that presents itself.
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Probably the most level headed post in this thread.

Calipari can have the one and dones. I would rather have guys that hang around at least a couple of years. At least pretend like they care something about UT.
 
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Just de- committed from Louisville. Didn’t have a prior Tennessee offer, but he seems to be an interesting prospect. Only a three star, but he looks more like a 4 to me.

 
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whodeycin85 said:
We need height..not having a 6'10 plus guy consistently rebounding gave a ton of offensive rebound to the other team.
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People forget not having Kyle Alexander for the Loyola tournament game cost us. Kyle freed up Grant down low because he could make you pay. You need a solid big man that is just a competent threat if nothing else.
 
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New Vols baseball commit Hunter Sloop - 6'8" 225 pounds. Looks like he could have played college basketball if that had been his preference. Shoots the 3 - handles the ball - dunks easily off 1 or 2 feet. I was looking for his baseball vid and found his Hudl basketball vid. If baseball doesn't work out maybe he can slide over to hoops

Hunter Sloop on Hudl
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
Just de- committed from Louisville. Didn’t have a prior Tennessee offer, but he seems to be an interesting prospect. Only a three star, but he looks more like a 4 to me.

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Louisville lost another commit today, 4 ⭐️PG Bobby Pettiford. Doubt we reach out to Bobby, though.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Plain and simple, Barnes is not at his best with 1-2 year players aka 5 stars. He is at his best when he has 2-4 year players that he can develop. While a coach is responsible for managing the team makeup, Barnes has never been good to great when he's had 1 year players (guys playing for sole reason to fulfill the NBA 1 year in college rule)......

While his success in developing guys like Punter, Grant, Admiral, Fulk, Pons, Bowden, and Turner laid the foundation to get guys like JJJ, Keon, and Springer, he literally has to be a coach he has never been before. I always thought he was going to be here 8-10 seasons before retiring. This was a run out the clock job for him while also having the best resume of any coach we could hire in the last 20 years, if not longer. Regardless, he will leave this job and program in much better shape than when he found it. I just hope that his recruiting keeps up and he can cement that pipeline for the next guy.

I do not get the people clamoring for his head (not all are), but there isn't a clear upgrade option over him that presents itself.
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Barnes had an entire team full of those guys last year and we were headed toward the NIT.

I'm not sure people realize just how rare and special that Williams, Admiral, and Bone group really was. Which makes it all the more painful that they only won 3 tourney games as a group.
 
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