Tennessee Vols Basketball Recruiting

#156
#156
TennaciousD957 said:
"Im not sure Pember will ever contribute let alone as a freshman."


Pember is a top 200 player in the country. He is a highly rated 3 star and the 5th ranked player in Tennessee. To say he may not contribute as a freshman is fair (and truthfully fair for all players not ranked in the top 50 or so - even DJ Burns who was a borderline top 100 wasn't ready to as a freshman). However, to say you don't think he may ever contribute is a gross exaggeration based on nothing. Gaines is actually the lowest ranked player in the signing class at 229. This is not a personal slight to you either as this seems to be a very common thought process on Pember. I just don't really see where it is coming from. Jason Jitoboh, who signed with Florida and who a ton of people would have been thrilled if he signed with Tennessee is ranked considerably lower than both Pember and Gaines at 277.
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Nobody on this board that knows what they are talking about was going to be thrilled with Jitoboh.
 
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#157
therickbol said:
Nobody on this board that knows what they are talking about was going to be thrilled with Jitoboh.
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Yeah, I was worried he'd come in out of shape and didn't see explosiveness when I watched him. Strong & big body, but he'd be a stronger RS candidate than Pember imo
 
#158
#158
MoCo_Vol said:
Yeah, I was worried he'd come in out of shape and didn't see explosiveness when I watched him. Strong & big body, but he'd be a stronger RS candidate than Pember imo
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His (Jitoboh) level of athleticism and foot speed is very concerning. I’ll be shocked if he finishes his career at Florida, much less makes an impact. I think White really reached on that one. On the other hand, if you are going to reach on a guy, it helps that he is 6-11, 290 and is in a class with Tre Mann, Scottie Lewis, and Omar Payne.
 
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#160
Shadowboxer said:
If we are telling Jalen Cone to reclassify, then there is no chance of Bone coming back.
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it's a 70/30 request I think

70% because we're expecting to lose Bone and next season is Turner & Bowden's last season and James may be a 1 & done...so pulling in a 4 star PG who will likely be here longer than one season would be a great move
30% because VA Tech just lost the staff that recruited him, and now is the best time to try and pull him coming off such a successful season
 
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#161
Dallasbowlin said:
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#163
I wouldn't say there's NO chance of Bone coming back if we take Cone, but it tells me they're hedging their bets on that. Cone would be VERY young if he came in next season after reclassifying, so it might do him good to learn behind Gone/Josiah James regardless. I think it means it's more likely that Bone is gone, but I don't think this information is an absolute guarantee.
 
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#165
If Bone and Williams both return you have to believe we're preseason top 10.

If you lose just Bone you're still gonna trot out a starting 5 of James,Turner,Bowden,Williams,and probably Fulkerson.

Thats easily a top 25 team.

If you lose Williams we're probably not top 25.

Bone,Turner,Bowden,Fulkerson,Burns aint gonna be world beaters.

If you lose both then its James,Turner,Bowden,Fulkerson,Burns.

Barnes will have to earn that 5 million.
 
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#166
Davonte Gaines runs quite a bit of point in high school. Doubt he will do it much in college, but maybe in a pinch it could prove useful.
 
#168
#168
UTSuave’ said:
Or just the fact that we have nobody behind bone.turner is a turn over machine and the game is 40 minutes not just 20.Bone will return.
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Turner had a 2.50 assist/turnover ratio last season. That was one of the better ratios in the country and would've been the best on the team if not for Bone's single season UT record of 2.91
 
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#170
TennaciousD957 said:
"Im not sure Pember will ever contribute let alone as a freshman."


Pember is a top 200 player in the country. He is a highly rated 3 star and the 5th ranked player in Tennessee. To say he may not contribute as a freshman is fair (and truthfully fair for all players not ranked in the top 50 or so - even DJ Burns who was a borderline top 100 wasn't ready to as a freshman). However, to say you don't think he may ever contribute is a gross exaggeration based on nothing. Gaines is actually the lowest ranked player in the signing class at 229. This is not a personal slight to you either as this seems to be a very common thought process on Pember. I just don't really see where it is coming from. Jason Jitoboh, who signed with Florida and who a ton of people would have been thrilled if he signed with Tennessee is ranked considerably lower than both Pember and Gaines at 277.
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Look I don’t want to drag you but this is just a completely wrong take. Do you know how many players that saw the floor against Tech in the final were outside the top 100. One. If you are expect kids at 277 to play meaningful minutes you are expecting to be an NIT team. This isn’t football. Even assuming 15 kids are one and dones you are talking about being able to populate the entire starting line up of every major college team every four years just with top 150 players. Only five kids can play at a time. There’s a reason Virginia was the first first tike winner since 2006- and it was their uncharacteristically stacked recruiting class when they brought in four four star kids- guys with names like Jerome, Hunter, Guy
 
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#171
treali94 said:
Look I don’t want to drag you but this is just a completely wrong take. Do you know how many players that saw the floor against Tech in the final were outside the top 100. One. If you are expect kids at 277 to play meaningful minutes you are expecting to be an NIT team. This isn’t football. Even assuming 15 kids are one and dones you are talking about being able to populate the entire starting line up of every major college team every four years just with top 150 players. Only five kids can play at a time. There’s a reason Virginia was the first first tike winner since 2006- and it was their uncharacteristically stacked recruiting class when they brought in four four star kids- guys with names like Jerome, Hunter, Guy
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Virginia did have several top 100 guys. That isn't the only way to win in college basketball, though. Admiral was 251st in his class, and Bowden was 262nd in his. Comes down to recruiting evaluations and player development. I'm not saying Pember plays a role in his freshman season, but to suggest he will never play a role and never be a good player because of his recruiting ranking is way off base.
 
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#172
#172
AngryButchJones said:
I wouldn't say there's NO chance of Bone coming back if we take Cone, but it tells me they're hedging their bets on that. Cone would be VERY young if he came in next season after reclassifying, so it might do him good to learn behind Gone/Josiah James regardless. I think it means it's more likely that Bone is gone, but I don't think this information is an absolute guarantee.
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So Bone Gone?
 
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#174
treali94 said:
Look I don’t want to drag you but this is just a completely wrong take. Do you know how many players that saw the floor against Tech in the final were outside the top 100. One. If you are expect kids at 277 to play meaningful minutes you are expecting to be an NIT team. This isn’t football. Even assuming 15 kids are one and dones you are talking about being able to populate the entire starting line up of every major college team every four years just with top 150 players. Only five kids can play at a time. There’s a reason Virginia was the first first tike winner since 2006- and it was their uncharacteristically stacked recruiting class when they brought in four four star kids- guys with names like Jerome, Hunter, Guy
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Texas Tech didn’t play a single Top 100 kid all year, tell me more.
 
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