Texas A&M/SEC megamerge thread extravaganza

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#930
DeerPark12 said:
Maybe not, the legal sanding is murky at best, but they already win if they delay this a year or two.

Hope Baylor succeeds in blocking this. A&M does not belong in the SEC.
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They won't delay it more than a day or two. The longer Baylor drags this out, the less attractive they make themselves to the other conferences, one of which they will have to join.

The SEC wants the waiver because they want it to look as clean as possible. That doesn't mean that they won't finalize this move without Baylor's consent.
 
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bamawriter said:
They won't delay it more than a day or two. The longer Baylor drags this out, the less attractive they make themselves to the other conferences, one of which they will have to join.

The SEC wants the waiver because they want it to look as clean as possible. That doesn't mean that they won't finalize this move without Baylor's consent.
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#935
#935
A&M gets SEC invite, but Baylor might sue

According to this, the SEC voted unanimously to accept Tam, if no Big 12 schools file suit to object. Also, it says that the Big twelve OK'd the change, if the SEC accepts Tam by Sept. 8. Also, it mentions a suit by Baylor. The President of Baylor is Ken Starr, the guy that spent fifty million dollars investigating President Clinton. So as of this Fox report, the situation looks like a soup sandwich.
 
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bamawriter said:
Not exactly. Yes, the SEC is looking for a waiver from Baylor. But if BU won't sign such a waiver, then the SEC will simply insist that Baylor file the suit within 48 hours if they are going to do so.
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so essentially call their bluff?
 
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What does Baylor really have to lose by suing though? People say they look less attractive to other conferences, but honestly they're screwed anyway. The Pac-16 isn't taking them, and neither is the SEC so at best they'll be relegated to Conference USA and their football fate will be sealed. May as well go grasping at straws trying to stop the onrushing train of conference expansion. There's no scenario where Baylor football isn't finished.
 
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#941
Having grown up with a family full of Aggies, and being a Tennessee alum and rabid SEC fan myself, I think the Aggies are going to be a great fit for the SEC. Their school is full of tradition and spirit, and they're HUGE football supporters. The fan base is large, and their alums are passionate about their university. Sounds kinda familiar, right? Plus, I think the Aggies' biggest traditional rivalry (with the *other* UT) will remain intact as an out-of-conference game. That game's been a Thanksgiving tradition for generations. I don't see that stopping now.

Anyway, I hope this goes through. I can't wait to go to my first Tennessee game at Kyle Field with my family (wearing head-to-toe orange, of course).
 
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Bleed, to answer your question re: what does Baylor have to lose?

If the Big 12 is finished, then Baylor is destined for something like CUSA or the Mountain West, and those would be the best case scenarios. Everyone agrees that the landscape would continue to shift. There are several current CUSA members who might be hoping for a big conference invite in the near future (UCF or ECU for example). If Baylor shows themselves to be inclined to sue in order to prevent their conference partners from leaving, then a decent mid major conference is not going to want them. Thus, Baylor relegates themselves to the WAC, MAC, or Sun Belt. Baylor isn't in a position of power, and they have to realize that. They are going to need friends going forward.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I do feel for Baylor though. They just notched the biggest win in the history of that program and things are looking kind of bright for BU football right now. However, its hard to imagine Baylor football having a place at the table when you are just taking the 64 best football programs and dividing them into 4 conferences. They are going to get screwed in that deal.
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How Baylor even got into the Big XII in the first place is another story. The rumors have always been that Ann Richards forced the conference's hand to include her alma mater. Then they promptly stunk the league up for 15 years.

I imagine Houston, TCU, SMU, and Rice fans are having a bit of a laugh at all this grandstanding from Waco.
 
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bamawriter said:
Bleed, to answer your question re: what does Baylor have to lose?

If the Big 12 is finished, then Baylor is destined for something like CUSA or the Mountain West, and those would be the best case scenarios. Everyone agrees that the landscape would continue to shift. There are several current CUSA members who might be hoping for a big conference invite in the near future (UCF or ECU for example). If Baylor shows themselves to be inclined to sue in order to prevent their conference partners from leaving, then a decent mid major conference is not going to want them. Thus, Baylor relegates themselves to the WAC, MAC, or Sun Belt. Baylor isn't in a position of power, and they have to realize that. They are going to need friends going forward.
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What difference does that really make though. In the landscape of where CFB is headed, if you aren't a part of the big 4 conferences, you're basically not a part of d-1 college football. IMO Baylor, as one of the schools who stands to get left out in the cold and be downgraded, should be doing everything in their power to stop conference expansion. That's pretty much their only chance to save their football program as it currently stands. Obviously, it's most likely all in vain, but it's got to be worth a shot. How ironic is it that after 15 years of sucking in the Big XII, they finally look poised to field a decent team this year, but in that same week the news of conference expansion that is going to all but kill their football program comes down as well. Has to suck for their fans.
 
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#945
How Baylor even got into the Big XII in the first place is another story. The rumors have always been that Ann Richards forced the conference's hand to include her alma mater. Then they promptly stunk the league up for 15 years.
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That is not a rumor it is true.

The SWC was done, and A&M and Texas were on their way to the Big 8. Ann Richards, the Govenor of Texas and a Baylor grad, and Bob Bullock, the Lt. Govenor and a Texas Tech undergrad, Baylor Law grad, forced the Big 8 to accept Baylor and Texas Tech. In the process TCU, SMU, Rice, and Houston got hung out to dry.
 
#947
#947
Looked like he was just trying to react professionally to the news that baylor would threaten lawsuits to stop aTm's movement
 
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#948
Aggie rivals site is reporting Baylor has sent confirmation that they will not seek legal action.
 
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