Texas A&M/SEC megamerge thread extravaganza

Yeah, baylor is talking about historic rivals. What about the Oklahoma and Nebraska rivalries from back in the day...better yet, Arkansas and Texas? There will be new rivalries come out of this...

In time, yes. And Baylor's will be with North Texas and UTEP.
 
Imagine how big of a rival LSU and A&M will be. Or Auburn and A&M. A&M has a huge military presence and so does Auburn with their war school.

This could be the start of something really cool. :thumbsup:
 
Baylor's President is Ken Starr. Yes, the same Ken Starr that wasted tax payer money on the Monica Lewinsky case. He's all about being in the public's eye.
 
Imagine how big of a rival LSU and A&M will be. Or Auburn and A&M. A&M has a huge military presence and so does Auburn with their war school.

This could be the start of something really cool. :thumbsup:

Imagine how big most of the SEC rivalries already are. Some of them will have to die in order for aTM to be added to the fold. UT/Bama is likely to be one of them. No thanks on the new rivalries for me.
 
The old SWC members in C-USA will probably black ball the Bears. Baylor would probably have to seek out Mountain West membership, which will include expensive team travel to Hawaii, California and Idaho. Not to mention the fact that Baylor will not be able to count on fellow Mountain West members' fans to put a bunch of butts in seats for games at Waco as they currently can with A&M, Texas and Oklahoma.
 
The new problem is Baylor, in my opinion.

Who wants to go to a conference in which they, if they decide to exit, can do all of the right steps to leave, only to be threatened with a lawsuit when they finally get the go-ahead? Baylor done goofed.
 
Baylor's crapping all over themselves.

Instead of trying to make themselves look like an attractive potential conference member, they're admitting that they're pathetic and can't stand alone.
 
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they'd have no case at all... same as what happened when the Big East sued the ACC over VT leaving in 2003. Question is going to be whether the SEC lets them in anyway... or if they say no you can't come bc of the threats.
Still scratching my head as to how that bunch of sorry football got to keep AQ status after BC, VT and Miami left. WVU is the only program left among them worth half a damn.

I don't understand why the Big 12 has to fail. It seems like they could add BYU and keep on trucking as-is.
BYU wants nor needs no part of that mess, and if the BXII is down to Baylor, ISU, Kansas and KState, their best options for expansion to continue on as a conference (minimum 8 teams) is a raid of C-USA west.
 
Merges are great and all, but sometimes merge a bunch of sub-subject threads into one makes the damn thread unwieldy.
 
I understand people's need to make fun of Baylor bled into all the other ones, but the ones I merged all seemed to be about more or less the same topic.
 
Perhaps Baylor was the catalyst, but now Sooners are the only remaining Big XII school willing to give up their right to sue.

Texas A&M's move to the SEC ultimately would happen if Oklahoma stays put in the Big 12, but until that occurs eight of the remaining nine Big 12 schools will not waive their right to pursue litigation against the SEC and A&M.

Texas A&M Aggies accepted into SEC, but legal threat delays move - ESPN

The Baylor bashing in this thread is misguided. They are fighting for their own best interests, just as Colorado & Nebraska did last year. Just as Texas did with its Longhorn Network. Just as A&M is doing.

And just as we would all expect the UT administration to do for us.
 
The Baylor bashing in this thread is misguided. They are fighting for their own best interests, just as Colorado & Nebraska did last year. Just as Texas did with its Longhorn Network. Just as A&M is doing.

I don't think anyone is arguing that Baylor isn't acting in their own self-interests. But they are doing so by trying to take hostages, and that isn't cool. They didn't do this crap with Nebraska and Colorado because it appeared that the Big 12 would hang on. They didn't even do this with A&M until it became evident that Oklahoma would leave as well.

Everyone in the situation is acting in their own self-interest. The problem for Baylor is that their interest is simply not that important.
 
Teams leave conferences for bigger conferences all the time. There is much more precedent on TAMU's side then Baylor's.
 
I just heard on the radio during lunch that Baylor is certain of joining the Big East if the Big 12 folds so it seems to me like the rats are trying to find something to float on once the ship goes down.
 
I don't think anyone is arguing that Baylor isn't acting in their own self-interests. But they are doing so by trying to take hostages, and that isn't cool. They didn't do this crap with Nebraska and Colorado because it appeared that the Big 12 would hang on. They didn't even do this with A&M until it became evident that Oklahoma would leave as well.

Everyone in the situation is acting in their own self-interest. The problem for Baylor is that their interest is simply not that important.

Baylor also got into the Big XII on rather suspect grounds, and has miserably failed to capitalize on their status. They deserve nothing but a lower-tier conference, and I hope they end up in one. They should consider themselves blessed they got the chance to play with the big boys for a while.
 
I just heard on the radio during lunch that Baylor is certain of joining the Big East if the Big 12 folds so it seems to me like the rats are trying to find something to float on once the ship goes down.

Did you mean to say they are not certain of joining the Big East? Otherwise, your post has me confused, because if they already know they can join the Big East, then they already have something to float on and thus wouldn't need to sue.
 
Did you mean to say they are not certain of joining the Big East? Otherwise, your post has me confused, because if they already know they can join the Big East, then they already have something to float on and thus wouldn't need to sue.

My thoughts exactly.

I heard this on Sirius during one of the sports flashes so TIFWIW.

The guy said that according to Baylor, they're confident that they could get into the BE if the Big XII goes down. Which definitely would defeat the purpose of holding this up...unless they were just buying time. But given the fluidity of the situation it's impossible to know what's going on.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31816105
 
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Big east loses west virginia, adds villanova and baylor and will probably still keep aq status. Watch.
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I guess Baylor is more attractive than Iowa State just by being located in Texas, but schools like Kansas, Kansas State, and Missouri probably need to find "permanent" homes before anyone touches Baylor.
 
Baylor now says they are firm in waiting on oklahoma and their decision before waiving any legal rights. Source is espndallas tweet
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A&M is as good as gone. Even if it costs a few bucks, the SEC is not going to let itsself appear cowed by the likes of Baylor. Baylor will not get in the Big East and probably will not get into C-USA either. If the Mountain West does not want them then it's gonna be the Sun Belt. Can't say I blame them for pulling out all the stops to try and stave off that fate.
 
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