Texas A&M/SEC megamerge thread extravaganza

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#178
I like A&M to the SEC as well. A program with history, tradition, a passionate fanbase, helps with Texas recruiting, etc... As a little kid I always liked A&M, I think just because they were the rivals of Texas and I didn't like the longhorns.

I'm also excited to see who the 14 and possibly 15th and 16th teams will be...
 
#181
#181
Always thought A&M would be a good fit, and would be happy to see them in the conference.
 
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#182
tvolsfan said:
I don't really care too much if A&M joins as long as UT still plays Bama every year.
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So you do care. It's going to be nearly impossible to preserve yearly cross divisional series' with such a massive number of teams and trying to work in a way for all of them to play each other. Looks like we'll be getting on a rotating schedule with them now too. Thanks a lot aTm. :banghead2:

I realize it's basically a done deal with the Aggies and the SEC, but at this point nothing would make me happier than for the SEC to say no thanks. They'd have burned their bridges with the Big XII, and would just be stuck sitting their with egg on their face and no conference.
 
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#183
I like how everyone's convinced (foolishly at that) that TN-AL is automatically gone because another team's added


You all need something to worry about or convince yourselves is going to go wrong huh?
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TrueOrange said:
I like how everyone's convinced (foolishly at that) that TN-AL is automatically gone because another team's added


You all need something to worry about or convince yourselves is going to go wrong huh?
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Some people can't function without fabricated issues to work themselves up over- it's a common theme on this very website, usually from the same handful of users.
 
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TrueOrange said:
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But as long as no else joins the conference then there is 0% chance we lose the Alabama series. Adding teams means something has to give, be it losing yearly cross-divisional rivalries, or going to a ninth game and destroying the equity in the league by half the teams getting an extra home game each year.

I guess what makes this so frustrating is from a fan standpoint the league is fine the way it is now. This is nothing but a money grab, so the fans will never personally experience any benefits, only the consequences.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
But as long as no else joins the conference then there is 0% chance we lose the Alabama series. Adding teams means something has to give, be it losing yearly cross-divisional rivalries, or going to a ninth game and destroying the equity in the league by half the teams getting an extra home game each year.

I guess what makes this so frustrating is from a fan standpoint the league is fine the way it is now. This is nothing but a money grab, so the fans will never personally experience any benefits, only the consequences.
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Except every college pretty much makes every other OOC game (3-4) into home games. There isn't that much lost if you have a 9 game conference slate. Other conferences (even the sec at a point I believe) have done the odd-numbered setup for years; not a terrible biggie
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TrueOrange said:
Except every college pretty much makes every other OOC game (3-4) into home games. There isn't that much lost if you have a 9 game conference slate. Other conferences (even the sec at a point I believe) have done the odd-numbered setup for years; not a terrible biggie
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I'm talking about within the conference. How in the world is it even remotely fair to be competing against a team like UF for the SEC east spot in the SECCG, only they play 5 home games and 4 away while you play 5 on the road and only get 4 at home? It would absolutely wreck the comptetitive balance that the league enjoys right now. 12 is the perfect number of teams. You can maintain some traditional rivalries while still getting to play the other divisional teams on a somewhat frequent basis. If the league expands to 16, which is almost certainly the endgame here, you'll have a situation where you will play the teams in the other division only twice every 16 years. aTm and some other team would join and mess the whole schedule up, but it would still almost be like we weren't even in the same conference because we would play the so rarely.
 
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#189
Bleed,

The fair way to do it is divide it by division: The East teams all get an extra home game in even numbered years, and the West in odd. As long as you are on equal footing with the teams in your division, it all works out.
 
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bamawriter said:
Bleed,

The fair way to do it is divide it by division: The East teams all get an extra home game in even numbered years, and the West in odd. As long as you are on equal footing with the teams in your division, it all works out.
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It's been explained to him multiple times.

There's no use arguing with a brick.
 
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TrueOrange said:
I like how everyone's convinced (foolishly at that) that TN-AL is automatically gone because another team's added


You all need something to worry about or convince yourselves is going to go wrong huh?
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No, but it's silly to think that losing the game isn't a possibility if the conference grows, IMO.

2 schools really care about the UT/Bama rivalry. I'm not sure they could get what they want if everyone else can benefit financially.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
But as long as no else joins the conference then there is 0% chance we lose the Alabama series. Adding teams means something has to give, be it losing yearly cross-divisional rivalries, or going to a ninth game and destroying the equity in the league by half the teams getting an extra home game each year.
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Not to mention they would lose a home game OOC.
 
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tvolsfan said:
No, but it's silly to think that losing the game isn't a possibility if the conference grows, IMO.

2 schools really care about the UT/Bama rivalry. I'm not sure they could get what they want if everyone else can benefit financially.
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The fact though that it's one of the rivalries the SEC went out of its way to preserve through the consistent, yearly cross-divisional games (as well as the fact that - when teams complained about the two cross divisional games - it was kept when the setup reduced to 1 yearly cross-division opponent) would seem to assure otherwise that preserving this rivalry is very important to them.....especially when all the UF fans is b-tch about having to play LSU yearly



There's always a possibility for anything, but it's nowhere near the certainty many here are making it out to be
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#194
That doesn't really prove to me that the SEC will keep it forever. The more teams that join the conference, the harder it would be to preserve it.

I'd say UT, Bama, and probably UGA/Auburn would fight to keep the rivalries. Would that be enough?
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I'm talking about within the conference. How in the world is it even remotely fair to be competing against a team like UF for the SEC east spot in the SECCG, only they play 5 home games and 4 away while you play 5 on the road and only get 4 at home? It would absolutely wreck the comptetitive balance that the league enjoys right now. 12 is the perfect number of teams. You can maintain some traditional rivalries while still getting to play the other divisional teams on a somewhat frequent basis. If the league expands to 16, which is almost certainly the endgame here, you'll have a situation where you will play the teams in the other division only twice every 16 years. aTm and some other team would join and mess the whole schedule up, but it would still almost be like we weren't even in the same conference because we would play the so rarely.
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people have explained why it doesn't have to be that way, but every odd year, florida has only 3 conference home games......like this year.

i hate to be smug about it, but you better find a way to deal with it and get past it......because expansion is coming.
 
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tvolsfan said:
That doesn't really prove to me that the SEC will keep it forever. The more teams that join the conference, the harder it would be to preserve it.

I'd say UT, Bama, and probably UGA/Auburn would fight to keep the rivalries. Would that be enough?
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Yes. It would be plenty, not that those will end up on the chopping block to begin with
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TrueOrange said:
Yes. It would be plenty, not that those will end up on the chopping block to begin with
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What makes you sure it will be plenty? I honestly don't know the decision making process.

I'd think that if they don't establish what to do before expansion, anything could change after.
 
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#199
there are plenty of ways to solve the problem.

1. you don't have to have divisions based on geography

2. if you care about geography, if they add two teams to the league out west, you move vandy to the west and bama and auburn to the east. it would preserve every rivalry except tennessee-vandy. the balance of power would shift to the east in a huge way, but everything would be preserved. heck, it would also bring back the auburn-florida, auburn-tennessee rivalries.

there are plenty of potential solutions.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Not really sure how that defends the merits of expansion.
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in this case, i am not defending it. i am saying......like it or not, it's coming.

i happen to like it and i can make a lot of arguments to defend it, but that post wasn't one of them.
 
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