That's racist!

[FLVOL_79]

Telling it like it is. Jealous B's ran off their meal ticket. Back to zero fans and hemorrhaging even more millions each year.

Thank god. Womens basketball has had way to much time in the spotlight lately and it definitely isn't the preferred way to watch lesbians on tv. Now I can get whats most important in the news, weather and how long paint takes to dry.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Admittedly I didn't watch the whole video, but one thing stood out at me. When that one player was saying that the only reason that white people were interested in her was because she was a white player in a league of predominantly black athletes. And there are several that defended that statement, and even some on here that essentially do. My question is where were these 'racism' voices when one Tiger Woods burst onto the scene? Viewership of a sport dominated by predominantly white athletes suddenly saw an enormous increase of black viewership.

I didn't GAS about the WNBA before, nor during Caitlin Clark's tenure there, and I highly doubt there will be anything post CC that will garner my interest. Kind of like the black viewership in golf post TW.

You’re racist for not following the wnba.

 

[C-south]

You’re racist for not following the wnba.

And now you’re racist if you do.

 

[508mikey]

It's sad that you're still a hater to this day. 1492 was a long time ago.

yet no mail on Columbus Day - make them work if they are so woke about Columbus

 

[NashVol11]

yet no mail on Columbus Day - make them work if they are so woke about Columbus

Is calling a bad person bad “being woke about them” now? Most places who aren’t big fans of Columbus simply celebrate a different holiday (Indigenous Peoples’ Day) that day instead

 

[hog88]

Is calling a bad person bad “being woke about them” now? Most places who aren’t big fans of Columbus simply celebrate a different holiday (Indigenous Peoples’ Day) that day instead

Columbus was a bad person?

 

[508mikey]

Is calling a bad person bad “being woke about them” now? Most places who aren’t big fans of Columbus simply celebrate a different holiday (Indigenous Peoples’ Day) that day instead

(Indigenous Peoples’ Day parade or paid holiday - yet to see it described this way

 

[NashVol11]

Columbus was a bad person?

You think he’s getting flack for no reason? Yes, beheading people for fun, cutting their hands off if they don’t pay him enough, making 9-10 year olds into sex slaves aren’t things good people do

8 myths and atrocities about Christopher Columbus and Columbus Day

On the second Monday of October each year, Native Americans cringe at the thought of honoring Christopher Columbus - a man who committed atrocities against Indigenous people.

www.greatfallstribune.com

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Wrong thread

 

[Majors]

polite racism by Obama again

 

[LouderVol]

You think he’s getting flack for no reason? Yes, beheading people for fun, cutting their hands off if they don’t pay him enough, making 9-10 year olds into sex slaves aren’t things good people do

8 myths and atrocities about Christopher Columbus and Columbus Day

On the second Monday of October each year, Native Americans cringe at the thought of honoring Christopher Columbus - a man who committed atrocities against Indigenous people.

www.greatfallstribune.com

the ironic part to me in replacing "Columbus Day" because he was a bad dude who did bad things; is they replaced it with "Indigenous People's Day" and ignore that there were plenty of Indigenous bad dudes, who did the exact same bad things that Columbus did.

the only thing new and different with Columbus was his religion and his diseases; typically two things that aren't really brought up when discussing how bad he is.

 

[KB5252]

So was 1939, am I a “hater” if I say Hitler was a bad person after all these years?

Hitler was a bad person by any standards at any time.

Columbus was doing what men have done since time began, exploring new areas and when possible dominating other peoples and taking their areas.

By that standard all the Egyptian leaders since civilization began in that part of the world were evil.

Genghis Khan was evil

Mansa Musa was evil

All great empires and their leaders were evil.

I guess it's just a matter of great civilizations being evil.........I get it bad things were done...... Humans are flawed. It is what it is. But Columbus was no better or worse than the great Indian chiefs who battled and conquested other tribes and took their land.

 

[NashVol11]

the ironic part to me in replacing "Columbus Day" because he was a bad dude who did bad things; is they replaced it with "Indigenous People's Day" and ignore that there were plenty of Indigenous bad dudes, who did the exact same bad things that Columbus did.

the only thing new and different with Columbus was his religion and his diseases; typically two things that aren't really brought up when discussing how bad he is.

"Indigenous people" at large aren't turning 9-year-olds into sex slaves. Columbus Day is a celebration of one (terrible) individual; if you're acting like any holiday celebrating a group of people is similar based on the acts of the worst single person out of those groups of people, then there are a lot of holidays that would have to go

 

[just bob]

"Indigenous people" at large aren't turning 9-year-olds into sex slaves. Columbus Day is a celebration of one (terrible) individual; if you're acting like any holiday celebrating a group of people is similar based on the acts of the worst single person out of those groups of people, then there are a lot of holidays that would have to go

Happy Columbus Day Weekend Eve!

 

[hog88]

"Indigenous people" at large aren't turning 9-year-olds into sex slaves. Columbus Day is a celebration of one (terrible) individual; if you're acting like any holiday celebrating a group of people is similar based on the acts of the worst single person out of those groups of people, then there are a lot of holidays that would have to go

Well Columbus isn't turning 9 year olds into sex slaves either.

 

[ButchPlz]

Hitler was a bad person by any standards at any time.

Columbus was doing what men have done since time began, exploring new areas and when possible dominating other peoples and taking their areas.

By that standard all the Egyptian leaders since civilization began in that part of the world were evil.

Genghis Khan was evil

Mansa Musa was evil

All great empires and their leaders were evil.

I guess it's just a matter of great civilizations being evil.........I get it bad things were done...... Humans are flawed. It is what it is. But Columbus was no better or worse than the great Indian chiefs who battled and conquested other tribes and took their land.

Didn't they just make a movie celebrating a savage tribe in Africa (the Dahomey, lololol) that was notorious for the brutality, conquering, and slaving?

I find it really funny that "we" can only condemn one set of explorers and conquerors.

 

[NashVol11]

Hitler was a bad person by any standards at any time.

Columbus was doing what men have done since time began, exploring new areas and when possible dominating other peoples and taking their areas.

By that standard all the Egyptian leaders since civilization began in that part of the world were evil.

Genghis Khan was evil

Mansa Musa was evil

All great empires and their leaders were evil.

I guess it's just a matter of great civilizations being evil.........I get it bad things were done...... Humans are flawed. It is what it is. But Columbus was no better or worse than the great Indian chiefs who battled and conquested other tribes and took their land.

Weak excuse to me. By this logic, I could say Hitler was just "doing what men have done since time began" by consolidating power and blaming a minority group for all of his problems.

Plenty of people (including his own people) saw these actions as bad at the time too:

Bartolome De Las Casas, a former slave owner who became Bishop of Chiapas, described these exploits. “Such inhumanities and barbarisms were committed in my sight as no age can parallel,” he wrote. “My eyes have seen these acts so foreign to human nature that now I tremble as I write.”

These dogs—who also wore armor and had been fed human flesh, were a fierce match for the Indians. Live babies were also fed to these war dogs as sport, sometimes in front of horrified parents.

After a multitude of complaints against Columbus about his mismanagement of the island of Hispaniola, a royal commissioner arrested Columbus in 1500 and brought him back to Spain in chains.

 

[NashVol11]

Didn't they just make a movie celebrating a savage tribe in Africa (the Dahomey, lololol) that was notorious for the brutality, conquering, and slaving?

I find it really funny that "we" can only condemn one set of explorers and conquerors.

I find it really interesting that people get this defensive about a guy raping children and cutting off limbs because he felt like it

 

[NashVol11]

Well Columbus isn't turning 9 year olds into sex slaves either.

Tell that to Columbus

In addition to putting the Natives to work as slaves in his gold mines, Columbus also sold sex slaves to his men—some as young as 9. Columbus and his men also raided villages for sex and sport.

In the year 1500, Columbus wrote: “A hundred castellanoes are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand.”

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Didn't they just make a movie celebrating a savage tribe in Africa (the Dahomey, lololol) that was notorious for the brutality, conquering, and slaving?

I find it really funny that "we" can only condemn one set of explorers and conquerors.

Yeah well Columbus was a white male so you know he bad.

 

[hog88]

Tell that to Columbus

"Indigenous people" at large aren't turning 9-year-olds into sex slaves. Columbus Day is a celebration of one (terrible) individual; if you're acting like any holiday celebrating a group of people is similar based on the acts of the worst single person out of those groups of people, then there are a lot of holidays that would have to go

Present tense. So presently Columbus isn't either.

If you try to claim indigenous people didn't or never turned 9 year olds into sex slaves you're going to make yourself look even more foolish.

 

[NashVol11]

Present tense. So presently Columbus isn't either.

If you try to claim indigenous people didn't or never turned 9 year olds into sex slaves you're going to make yourself look even more foolish.

Person who doesn't know what "at large" means. If I said "as a whole" would you get it? It's not the entire group or even the majority or anywhere close.

Indigenous Peoples' Day is largely about the present tense anyway, this was a dumb attempted gotcha

 

[just bob]

Person who doesn't know what "at large" means. If I said "as a whole" would you get it? It's not the entire group or even the majority or anywhere close

Is it like per capita?

 

[KB5252]

Weak excuse to me. By this logic, I could say Hitler was just "doing what men have done since time began" by consolidating power and blaming a minority group for all of his problems.

Plenty of people (including his own people) saw these actions as bad at the time too:

It could be argued I guess but it's weak argument that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Acts of barbarism with uncooperative subjects are abundant in any conquest of people. The Egyptians show bringing back the hands and feet of enemies as trophies, bringing back many slaves etc.

The stories about Genghis are legendary.

Mansa Musa was known to be ruthless to the people of his enemies... Soldier or civilian.

The Spanish Conquistadors were ruthless.

It's the way of conquest. You can argue that conquest is evil........ And their acts. But he's done nothing any one before or after hasn't done in their conquest to earn him any greater or lesser status in that regard.

 

[LouderVol]

"Indigenous people" at large aren't turning 9-year-olds into sex slaves. Columbus Day is a celebration of one (terrible) individual; if you're acting like any holiday celebrating a group of people is similar based on the acts of the worst single person out of those groups of people, then there are a lot of holidays that would have to go

Most of the tribes practiced various forms of slavery. Everything from the "benign" killing off all males over a certain age, and making the women and young men slaves. to various tribes actively participating in Slave trade with the confederates, it doesn't get mentioned much but the union was actively fighting the natives during the early 1860s too. many tribes considered puberty the acceptable line, so it may not have been 9, but 11 doesn't come off as too much better, to me at least.

I would be willing to bet at least SOME of those tribes didn't draw too much distinction on age or use of those slaves. that's the problem with going with a holistic "Indigenous People's Day" with such a large sample size there is plenty of disgusting being overlooked.

its kinda like arguing that Columbus was the good guy because he didn't practice human sacrifice. both sides are doing some cherry picking to frame their argument in the most positive light they can.

and yes, a good number of holidays would have to go. but IPD was chosen out of some seeking of a higher standard, that itself doesn't pass.