The Arkansas Postgame Report

#76
#76
The question of Pearl returning doesn't matter.....this team is poorly coached. Comparing the two is the same, except even more embarassing.....there is no comparison, Pearl was a motivator and clipboard guy too. Martin is neither.
 
#77
#77
patrick said:
and the "other guy" was such a bad coach that he took Tennessee to 6 straight AA tourney's - an accomplishment never before seen at Tennessee.

A number 1 ranking - 3 sweet sixteen appearances - 1 elite 8.

Hmmm.
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And got us in hot water too.You left that out.I was a big Pearl fan until he got us in trouble.
 
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#79
#79
Pick your poison.


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#80
Volman1970 said:
Why can't we get another coach besides Pearl.There are bigger and better coaches we can get.We have have to spend the $$$ which i doubt we will do
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The same reason some Vol fan keep wanting Fulmer back; they can't move on nor can they comprehend that past success doesn't automatically mean the same future success. It's not totally the same situation mind you, as Pearl's firing didn't have anything to do with performance on the court, but at the same time, he has even less of a chance of ever coaching again at UT due to the nature of his firing.

I mean if we end up bringing back Pearl, then we might as well have also hired Petrino.
 
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#82
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volbeast33 said:
Was it the players that made coach pearl or the coach that made the players
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Buzz Peterson was a horrible coach; any competent coach should have been able to take at least 2 if not 3 of the teams he coached to the NCAAT, and he couldn't get past the first round of the NIT. Jerry Green could have gotten those teams to the NCAAT.

I give Pearl credit yes, but again, he inherited some good talent that Martin did not.
 
#83
#83
Volman1970 said:
With that being said,He is the reason the NCAA was going to hammer us and put the basketball program in the shape we are in today.No big time coach or player was coming.Now we are in better shape,we can get a big time coach in we come off the cash.
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For the life of me I can't understand why some Vol fans refuse to get this.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The same reason some Vol fan keep wanting Fulmer back; they can't move on nor can they comprehend that past success doesn't automatically mean the same future success. It's not totally the same situation mind you, as Pearl's firing didn't have anything to do with performance on the court, but at the same time, he has even less of a chance of ever coaching again at UT due to the nature of his firing.

I mean if we end up bringing back Pearl, then we might as well have also hired Petrino.
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Add Lane in there too. :)
 
#86
#86
zjcvols said:
1. Turnovers. Simple as that. Anybody that says we didn't need Golden could see that we have no else. We couldn't handle Arkansas' defensive pressure. They were too good.

2. Skylar should apologize to his team for awful defense. Three critical defensive possessions late in the 2nd half when UT was trying to make a run sealed the deal for Arkansas. That horrible charge attempt was an embarrassment. Martin should be forced by Dave Hart to give a proper explanation why he has benched every player that's played for him in his tenure for bad defense at some point, but McBee gets a pass. That was embarrassing.

3. Kenny Hall played well today. He had some nice plays when it almost got out of hand and made it a game. He is incredibly frustrating, but it was nice to get a good game out of him.

4. Jordan McRae has hit a wall. Asking him to run the point and be the primary scorer has taken it out of him. His legs aren't underneath him. Hopefully he can find his shot back because McRae has to score for this team.

5. Martin's inability to get Jarnell the ball on a consistent basis has been horrible. He's a great passer, but because this team just stands around we don't see it. If you don't cut on offense, you don't play. That should be the stance.

6. UT just didn't handle Arkansas' ability to dribble into the lane. They looked lost all day. The bigs just didn't rotate well today. McRae/Moore/Richardson/McBee just couldn't keep them out of the lane and too many times went over the screen when Arkansas kept getting to the lane. Have to adjust defensively. I don't know why Martin didn't.

7. Bernard King Player of the Game: Jarnell Stokes. He rebounded well with 10 and had a double-double. His D was inconsistent, but wasn't all his fault because the guards didn't defend well. He was 6-7 shooting, and 6-9 from the free throw line. With Stokes, you take that all day.

8. UT's D is not aggressive enough. One steal today? That's awful. Their length should give them five automatically. I know you want to stop everything in front, but you have to be more aggressive, especially with a stalling offense.

9. A positive? UT took the ball to the hole. That was a good sign and resulted in 24 free throw attempts. I actually thought, outside the turnovers, UT did pretty decent on offense. It was inconsistent, but UT did a better job being aggressive and getting in the lane.

10. UT lost. It sucks. They (again) had chances and was embarrassing to watch in the first half. I'm disconcerted with their defense right now. This team needs Golden. We really needed this road win. But UT has a very winnable two games this week. If UT wins those two, that's 4-1 in your last five. It's a blown opportunity, but you got to keep your head up. Not all is lost.

Go Vols!!! :hi:
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I say it following every loss...TOs and FTs. Well, today, it was only the TOs, so perhaps that's the silver lining.

Skylar is abysmal at this point and I find it offensive that he gets minutes at all, let alone 19 minutes. When he has the ball outside of anything but a spot shot, he can't wait to get rid of it as if it were a nuclear warhead. His defense is a joke and his sole contribution at this point is five fouls (which his terrible defense allows him to exercise).

Kenny looks like a crippled, 50 year old Robert Parrish one minute, and a decent contributor the next. He is just an enigma who hasn't, nor ever will put it all together. This all despite his decent moments today.

Jordan can't play PG, be relied upon as primary perimeter scorer, and be asked to play respectable defense. That's too much for him, and you're right, he's hit a wall.

I'm so sick of a defensive philosohy predicated on not generating TOs, especially when we are so prone to committing them. It's so disheartening to see our TO differential in our losses. If we coukd generate some of our own, it could help to mask the fact that we don't value possessions offensively. We had one steal to Arky's 12. That's awful. You should luck into more than one steal.

I agree we miss Golden from a scoring standpoint, but I still believe Lopez is a better ball-handler and distributor. Trae just has more natural offensive talent. He made several nice passes today that just weren't finished by our bigs. He had two TOs that looked bad, but he doesn't have a ton of game experience, so hopefully they are learning experiences. He just doesn't have the scoring ability Golden brings. The problem is, if Trae isn't scoring, he generally isn't doing a whole lot else either.

Overall, this game can be summed up by our first three possessions of the second half. We committed three TOs, didn't get a shot attempt (including a shot clock violation), and didn't even get the ball inside the three-point line. That's a sign of no urgency and confidence; two things this team greatly lacks on the road. 20 TOs vs 8 TOs won't win many games either.
 
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#90
#90
Bricks and turnovers= loss. Get some players that can shoot the damn basketball. :yes: :jpshakehead:
 
#92
#92
VolsSportsFan said:
Buzz Peterson was a horrible coach; any competent coach should have been able to take at least 2 if not 3 of the teams he coached to the NCAAT, and he couldn't get past the first round of the NIT. Jerry Green could have gotten those teams to the NCAAT.

I give Pearl credit yes, but again, he inherited some good talent that Martin did not.
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If you follow recruiting at all, Martin's inherited players where better than Pearl's inherited players.

In addition, if you were to look at Pearl's first roster (without seeing Pearl's records after he arrived) in comparison to Martin's then most people and coaches would rather have Martin's. The only reason that people now say that pearl's first roster was so talented is because they won games, big games..... Well that talent had not done jack under Buzz but I digress.

The point is if u look at it in a bubble, Martin's first roster appeared to be more talented.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Buzz Peterson was a horrible coach; any competent coach should have been able to take at least 2 if not 3 of the teams he coached to the NCAAT, and he couldn't get past the first round of the NIT. Jerry Green could have gotten those teams to the NCAAT.

I give Pearl credit yes, but again, he inherited some good talent that Martin did not.
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That's just not true.....some of petersons teams had some talent but just two to three guys and then it was bottom of the barrell guys. Pearls team he inherited was predicted to finish at the bottom of the sec....he improved lofton and watsons avgs by 4 ppg, Patterson by 2 ppg, wingate by 5 ppg, made Dane Bradshaw ( a bad 3rd string pg at the time into a viable 6' 4 PF in the sec avg 8 ppg, he was even able to coax production out of Asumnu.

That team was not good enough to compete head to head with other teams but the fretic style pearl implemented allowed us to cover our weaknesses, force multiple turnovers, and create many open 3 point opportunities.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The same reason some Vol fan keep wanting Fulmer back; they can't move on nor can they comprehend that past success doesn't automatically mean the same future success. It's not totally the same situation mind you, as Pearl's firing didn't have anything to do with performance on the court, but at the same time, he has even less of a chance of ever coaching again at UT due to the nature of his firing.

I mean if we end up bringing back Pearl, then we might as well have also hired Petrino.
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BINGO!! Then we would be winning championships in football and basketball!
 
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