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#5,676
#5,676
Fair enough. That was our knock back in August and here we are. I'm not sure there is anyone that keep us from scoring enough. 10 games to go and Chelsea still has Tot, Pool, and Arsenal. Thankfully we only go to ManU
 
#5,678
#5,678
MSUDuo said:
Fair enough. That was our knock back in August and here we are. I'm not sure there is anyone that keep us from scoring enough. 10 games to go and Chelsea still has Tot, Pool, and Arsenal. Thankfully we only go to ManU
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Agreed. Liverpool is in a great spot here. Just PL games to focus on and still white hot in goal scoring. Agger and Skrtel are worrying me with the ease in which guys are getting by them, but hey, maybe we can just outscore everyone.
 
#5,681
#5,681
Top three all within three points of each other. So not sure that point stands.

While the Premier League is likely to only have one team in the UCL in the quarterfinals. La Liga will have three. EPL teams outscored 7-1 in the first leg of the round of 16. Quality.
 
#5,682
#5,682
volball625 said:
Top three all within three points of each other. So not sure that point stands.

While the Premier League is likely to only have one team in the UCL in the quarterfinals. La Liga will have three. EPL teams outscored 7-1 in the first leg of the round of 16. Quality.
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Having more teams in the CL quarterfinals doesn't equate to an entertaining league. It just means the top teams in La Liga are better than the best in England. Surely you aren't going to try to make the case that it's actually deeper than the EPL.
 
#5,683
#5,683
Spurs within a shout of top four with a goal differential of +4... What a season. Happy to see Soldado find his striking boots.
 
#5,684
#5,684
milohimself said:
Spurs within a shout of top four with a goal differential of +4... What a season. Happy to see Soldado find his striking boots.
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They're 6 points out of 4th. It's possible, but a long shot. I think your best bet is to have Arsenal back up to you. Liverpool is in a pretty good spot now with both a favorable schedule and no other competitions to focus on.
 
#5,685
#5,685
bleedorange0037 said:
They're 6 points out of 4th. It's possible, but a long shot. I think your best bet is to have Arsenal back up to you. Liverpool is in a pretty good spot now with both a favorable schedule and no other competitions to focus on.
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I agree. sadly for me, arsenal is slipping bigtime. I don't think chelsea or city will get out of the top 4, and the pool is playing pretty well. I could see arsenal continuing to slip and still end up in 4th
 
#5,686
#5,686
DocVOLiday said:
I agree. sadly for me, arsenal is slipping bigtime. I don't think chelsea or city will get out of the top 4, and the pool is playing pretty well. I could see arsenal continuing to slip and still end up in 4th
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The North London Derby in a couple weeks is actually shaping up to be a pretty huge game now.
 
#5,687
#5,687
bleedorange0037 said:
Having more teams in the CL quarterfinals doesn't equate to an entertaining league. It just means the top teams in La Liga are better than the best in England. Surely you aren't going to try to make the case that it's actually deeper than the EPL.
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I agree that the EPL is deeper, but not by much. The teams at the top just aren't very good. If Liverpool is your third best team, then you have problems.
 
#5,688
#5,688
volball625 said:
I agree that the EPL is deeper, but not by much. The teams at the top just aren't very good. If Liverpool is your third best team, then you have problems.
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Liverpool aren't that bad. Their defense is suspect at times, but Suarez/Sturridge/Sterling up top is pretty formidable. When he's on form, Suarez is as good a striker as anybody in the world.
 
#5,689
#5,689
Raheem sterling? Are we talking about Raheem Sterling?

I would take Atletico Madrid's roster at just about every position.

I would say at the end of the day, La Liga is the best overall league. Having three of the best eight clubs is very impressive. And two of them are serious contenders to win the UCL. EPL has no team that can legitimately win the UCL
 
#5,690
#5,690
volball625 said:
Raheem sterling? Are we talking about Raheem Sterling?
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You do realize he just turned 19 a couple months ago, right? He's not some elite forward or anything, but he's pretty damn talented and still has a lot of years to develop.

Here's the deal, I hate both Barça and RM, and La Liga is sold its TV rights to some stupid obscure channel that I don't get, so odds are I'm never going to watch those teams outside of CL. I'd rather watch them in that tournament anyway where the competition is at least somewhat on their level.
 
#5,691
#5,691
bleedorange0037 said:
They're 6 points out of 4th. It's possible, but a long shot. I think your best bet is to have Arsenal back up to you. Liverpool is in a pretty good spot now with both a favorable schedule and no other competitions to focus on.
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It's four, but city has two games in hand. Finishing fifth the same season as sacking AVB would be something, though.
 
#5,692
#5,692
milohimself said:
It's four, but city has two games in hand. Finishing fifth the same season as sacking AVB would be something, though.
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I just figured the difference up to Arsenal. One of City's games is a home match with Sunderland, so that's as good a three points. Imagine where you might be if they'd ditched AVB sooner.
 
#5,693
#5,693
bleedorange0037 said:
You do realize he just turned 19 a couple months ago, right? He's not some elite forward or anything, but he's pretty damn talented and still has a lot of years to develop.

Here's the deal, I hate both Barça and RM, and La Liga is sold its TV rights to some stupid obscure channel that I don't get, so odds are I'm never going to watch those teams outside of CL. I'd rather watch them in that tournament anyway where the competition is at least somewhat on their level.
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Aren't we arguing current teams?

Liverpool's strength is their front line. And outside of Suarez, you have a player who just now becoming a solid player and a young starlet.

Barcelona has two starlets that are just as good as Sterling. They're both loaned out because they have absolutely no spot in the squad even as a Cup player.
 
#5,694
#5,694
volball625 said:
Aren't we arguing current teams?

Liverpool's strength is their front line. And outside of Suarez, you have a player who just now becoming a solid player and a young starlet.

Barcelona has two starlets that are just as good as Sterling. They're both loaned out because they have absolutely no spot in the squad even as a Cup player.
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I wasn't trying argue how good Barça is because there's no point. They're the most talented team in the world. You just said it was disgraceful to the EPL that Liverpool is a top 4 team and I just was pointing out that they've got some good attacking talent on the squad, including a guy in Suarez who at his best may have a better nose for goals than anyone else in the world.
 
#5,696
#5,696
volball625 said:
Other than him, Liverpool is pedestrian.
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I actually pretty much agree with this. Gerrard is done and their defense is suspect/flat out bad at times. However, when you can score goals by the truckload, which Liverpool have shown they can do a lot of the time, you can pile up wins in spite of all the other stuff.

Another consideration with them is that they've gotten to this point entirely without the benefit of any CL money in about five years. They'll have more cash to throw around to keep improving next year once those checks start coming in.
 
#5,697
#5,697
They need to add some serious quality depth for next year with the likelihood that they make the CL. Really need a LB and some serious creativity from the midfield.
 
#5,698
#5,698
volball625 said:
They need to add some serious quality depth for next year with the likelihood that they make the CL. Really need a LB and some serious creativity from the midfield.
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For sure with the midfielder. Gerrard had that role locked for about 15 years, but now he's dropped into a more defensive role because he just isn't the player he used to be. I want to say that yesterday they said of his 8 goals this year, 6 are on PK's. Fortunately, they are looking at a nice windfall of cash to help fill some of those holes.
 
#5,699
#5,699
True, the EPL is deeper, I won't argue that. After Bayern and full strength Dortmund, there's a huge drop off in the Bundesliga. But the best teams in the world at the moment are Madrid, Bayern, and Barcelona. No one from the EPL is in that tier.
 
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