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#277
#277
ftsandersvol said:
OSU doesn’t scare me where we play them. If it’s bad weather in Columbus Sampson will have a heyday.
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They don’t scare me either . . . But to me this could be the scenario:

Mad football team . . . Playing in front of their home crowd . . . With a locker room convinced they are playing for their coach’s job. I think those types of psychological impacts are real in football. OSU has a Michigan problem like UT has had a Florida problem. But they have handled their business against all others.

I think we will be a 9-10 point underdog for a reason.

Can we beat them on the road? Yes. But it would take a complete effort / elimination of dumb penalties we have yet to see in a road game.
 
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#281
#281
Volfrombirth1965 said:
Notre Dame should never be higher than last in, join a conference or suck it up lucky charms.
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They should pick the easiest schedule every year from here out. There is no incentive to ever play a tough team again from a top conference. They will have guaranteed a slot no matter how easy their schedule is.
 
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#282
The Oho ain't seen speed, like it will. I hope we play them in Columbus, and I'm sure we'll be sentenced to the Rose Bowl or Tempe for a showdown with the Oregon Quacks. That would be a shoot out. Josh knows how to score too. Plus tn knows a little bit about defense. 😅
 
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#283
#283
volfan102455 said:
I listened to the quote - he didn't say what some folks think he said. There will be movement based on the outcomes of the championship games. And there has to be. There will be no data point to move a team not currently outside of the top 12 into the top 12 other than those playing in the championship games.

He did not say the positions of those playing in the championship games are protected - at least not in this response.
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Yeah I think I posted the wrong link. But what I understood was that teams inside the top 12 not playing in conference championships will not move, as there are no data points to move them up any. And I took it to mean he was talking directly to osu and Tennessee in that response. I’ll try to find it
 
#285
#285
If Dawgs lose, they will swap spots with us. They will go on the road to Columbus and we will host IU. Doesn't even have to be a big loss, IMO. Committee won't need to justify a 3 loss team behind a 2 loss team, despite H2H. They have shown they are comfortable having no standards. Easy way out for them, also more tickets sold in Knoxville than in Athens. UGA/OSU is every bit the tv dream Vols/OSU would be.
Also, we haven't touched on if PSU get boat-raced. I think the chances are very good we host (still).
 
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#286
#286
Volanta said:
I don’t get how Alabama is in and Miami is out. The bias is insane. I’m very objective so someone please help me understand. I don’t get it.
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Manuel was asked this question and spelled out Alabama’s quality wins and metrics versus Miami’s lack thereof.
 
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#287
#287
One thing I know for damn sure - we will be motivated like you’ve never seen to go up there in our storm trooper suits and whip some big ten MF’N ASS in their house.

Our boys will be pissed off about this lack of respect for them like few can understand.

“Sampson for SIX” is going to be flowing like smooth Tennessee whisky over cracked ice.

There is a reason ohio is 2 -25 or whatever the hell it is against SEC teams for the last hundred years…… they ain’t man enough. They sure as hell won’t be this December.

They saw Michigan outbid LSU for the number one qb last week and tried to outbid us for the number one OT. They couldn’t beat us. And they won’t in three weeks either.

😡🤬😡🤬
 
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#288
volfan102455 said:
I listened to the quote - he didn't say what some folks think he said. There will be movement based on the outcomes of the championship games. And there has to be. There will be no data point to move a team not currently outside of the top 12 into the top 12 other than those playing in the championship games.

He did not say the positions of those playing in the championship games are protected - at least not in this response.
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Yes, a team outside the top 12 not playing a conference championship game cant move up. Also no team in the top 12 not playing in a conf. championship game can move up over another team who also isnt playing in a conference champ. game.

So, Tennessee cant move above Ohio st. But Tennessee could move up due to a championship game loser dropping below them. But I doubt that would happen.
 
#289
#289
KeyVol14 said:
We were ranked #8 in the CFP last week and seeded as the number 9 seed...this week we moved to #7 and still the 9 seed is what I'm saying. I wasn't referring to the AP poll
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Because there are now three conference leaders behind us (ACC, G5, Big 12), and two of those will get a bye. Last week the ACC leader was ahead of us and there was only one “bye” team behind us (Boise State).
 
#291
#291
Ty4Vols said:
Well here's my guess but read the end and it will show the committee is a bit inconsistent.

Miami 10-2 SOS 55 and SOR 14

Bama 9-3 SOS 17 and SOR 10

Bama is afforded an additional loss and still determined to be the better team because their schedule allowed for it in comparison to Miami's schedule.

Side note, all 16 SEC teams are in the top 32 in SOS. Miami 55, Clemson 53 and SMU 75. This is why a SEC 3 loss team is considered better than an ACC 2 loss team. The entire schedule is just significantly more difficult in the SEC.

This is also why OSU 10-2 is ahead of UT 10-2.
OSU (SOS 26, SOR 6) is better (barely) than UT (SOS 28, SOR 7) in both SOS and SOR.

I say all this and the committee messes this up having SMU 11-1 (SOS 75 SOR 9) ahead of IU 11-1 (SOS 65 SOR 8).

My only guess is SMU is getting a bump for making their conference championship game whereas the others compared above are all staying home this weekend.

Just my 2 cents
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I doubt the committee considered this but Miami really had 3 losses. Refs literally gave them the Va Tech game. It was over as called on the field and the refs overturned the play with zero clear evidence to do so.
 
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#292
#292
Think the only way we get a home game is if Georgia loses handedly to Texas and the committee drops a 3 loss Georgia team below us. Not sure they would do that but would be the only possible avenue.

Also hope clemson wins so bama gets left out. Absolutely ridiculous that a 3 loss bama gets in.
 
#293
#293
Johnnyreb#VFL said:
Yeah I think I posted the wrong link. But what I understood was that teams inside the top 12 not playing in conference championships will not move, as there are no data points to move them up any. And I took it to mean he was talking directly to osu and Tennessee in that response. I’ll try to find it
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Yes, there is no chance we will move ahead of Ohio St. The only movement will be by teams playing in the conference championship games. Also, for those folks who keep hammering away at the idea that losers of the championship games won't drop in the rankings, he just said that is the only remaining movement to be made. Also, Warde Manuel was specifically asked if SMU could drop behind Alabama if they lose and he said "potentially, yes". Two things to take from that: They will absolutely consider punishing a CG loser up to and including completely dropping out of the field, and SMU had better win if they want in because Bama is staying in.
 
#295
#295
deatojl said:
Yes, there is no chance we will move ahead of Ohio St. The only movement will be by teams playing in the conference championship games. Also, for those folks who keep hammering away at the idea that losers of the championship games won't drop in the rankings, he just said that is the only remaining movement to be made. Also, Warde Manuel was specifically asked if SMU could drop behind Alabama if they lose and he said "potentially, yes". Two things to take from that: They will absolutely consider punishing a CG loser up to and including completely dropping out of the field, and SMU had better win if they want in because Bama is staying in.
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The thing is they are saying after the 12 game regular season that they believe #8 smu is better than #11 bama. Somehow they may change their mind after a championship weekend that bama isn’t part of even though bama won’t have the “data points” to move up.
 
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#296
#296
VOLywood said:
We were all so excited about a 12 team playoff in college football. And then here we are with SMU, Indiana, Arizona State, and Boise State in the field.
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They don’t make the rules, they just play football and did what they had to do with the parameters all of the leagues agreed upon. Don’t hate the playahs, hate the game. 😂
 
#297
#297
ftsandersvol said:
OSU doesn’t scare me where we play them. If it’s bad weather in Columbus Sampson will have a heyday.
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This is a good point. Everyone in the national media will be talking “wIlL SoUtHerN tEaMs bE abLe tO HanDLe tHe cOLd?” In a cold-weather, smash-mouth game where the focus is defense and running the ball, I think we have an advantage.
 
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#298
#298
207 others said:
Ohio state is a scary team to play at idc what takes you reply with it is what it is, penn state and Oregon also are deafening

Lovely how TN gets to play at the 4th loudest stadium and loudest (oregon>vols>penn>ohio for decibles)
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Only the first round is on campus, so Autzen is off the table. I doubt that it’s a more intimidating environment than Neyland, though likely up there with Neyland and Death Valley for noise.
 
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#300
#300
VolCalls said:
SMU will be in regardless. Bama out if Clemson wins.
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That should be the case. I didn’t see where they had laid the groundwork to screw them though, only that conference title contenders won’t be punished.
 
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