The cancel culture is getting out of control

[Vol8188]

Giving poor kids money to attend private schools (your actual argument) would cause segregation? Can you explain how that works because I’ve yet to see you do so.

But if that poor kid has discipline concerns/deformities/academic issues (those three categories would include a lot of poor kids) you have no problem with their “segregation”?

Bump for Luther since he’s trying to dance or around these things

 

[ClearwaterVol]

So you’re okay with your money being spent on that kid but not if the parent has say in it and being able to attend their preferred school?

If you’re paying for it anyone why does it matter?

No, why should you get the money I pay in? I am for supporting the public schools.

 

[DonjoVol]

I've got the perfect solution to fix the public schools that are failing. STOP ELECTING DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS.

 

[Vol8188]

No, why should you get the money I pay in? I am for supporting the public schools.

Because I assume your objective is the same as mine. To improve the education students will receive. If that is the case, we should be on the same page with school vouchers.

I won't be getting your money. Nor will anyone other than schools. Isn't the purpose of your money that you are okay with being taken from you, isn't the purpose of that to fund schools?

 

[luthervol]

Giving poor kids money to attend private schools (your actual argument) would cause segregation? Can you explain how that works because I’ve yet to see you do so.

But if that poor kid has discipline concerns/deformities/academic issues (those three categories would include a lot of poor kids) you have no problem with their “segregation”?

I already have explained it.
But if you want to give vouchers to the bottom 10%, then I can go along with it. Maybe even the lowest 25%.

 

[Vol8188]

I already have explained it.
But if you want to give vouchers to the bottom 10%, then I can go along with it. Maybe even the lowest 25%.

But f*** the middle class? I'm not following. And no you have not explained it. At no point have you even attempted to explain how this would increase economic segregation.

 

[luthervol]

Because I assume your objective is the same as mine. To improve the education students will receive. If that is the case, we should be on the same page with school vouchers.

I won't be getting your money. Nor will anyone other than schools. Isn't the purpose of your money that you are okay with being taken from you, isn't the purpose of that to fund schools?

lol.......vouchers for all in no way improves the education students will receive. It undeniably does just the opposite.

 

[Vol8188]

lol.......vouchers for all in no way improves the education students will receive. It undeniably does just the opposite.

Would parents not naturally want to take their child to the school they feel is in the best interest of their child? I'm not sure how that would make anything worse.

 

[85SugarVol]

Kids can handle incredibly weighty subjects like genocide, but not if the vehicle includes non-sexualized nude art. That would be just too much for the kids.

I’ve never understood it.

We’ll show schoolchildren old camp footage of sonderkommando operating heavy machinery on top of heaps of dead bodies.

But we’re upset that the dead bodies are nude? Really?

 

[85SugarVol]

Kids can handle incredibly weighty subjects like genocide, but not if the vehicle includes non-sexualized nude art. That would be just too much for the kids.

I’ve never understood it.

We’ll show schoolchildren old camp footage of sonderkommando operating heavy machinery on top of heaps of dead bodies.

But we’re upset that the dead bodies are nude? Really?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Because I assume your objective is the same as mine. To improve the education students will receive. If that is the case, we should be on the same page with school vouchers.

I won't be getting your money. Nor will anyone other than schools. Isn't the purpose of your money that you are okay with being taken from you, isn't the purpose of that to fund schools?

No, the purpose is to fund public education. I am not sure why you continually make me repeat myself.

 

[85SugarVol]

Kids can handle incredibly weighty subjects like genocide, but not if the vehicle includes non-sexualized nude art. That would be just too much for the kids.

I’ve never understood it.

We’ll show schoolchildren old camp footage of sonderkommando operating heavy machinery on top of heaps of dead bodies.

But we’re upset that the dead bodies are nude? Really?

 

[85SugarVol]

Kids can handle incredibly weighty subjects like genocide, but not if the vehicle includes non-sexualized nude art. That would be just too much for the kids.

double post

 

[ClearwaterVol]

You don’t think you would’ve done a better job with a second person? The answer is obviously yes. People on the left often try to bring up this weird example (I did it!). Cool. Doesn’t mean it’s optimal

Not with the person I was married to.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

But f*** the middle class? I'm not following. And no you have not explained it. At no point have you even attempted to explain how this would increase economic segregation.

Work harder. Your success/failure is the direct result of your choices.

 

[Vol8188]

No, the purpose is to fund public education. I am not sure why you continually make me repeat myself.

Just checking. I guess I was wrong. My basic assumption was that we all wanted the same thing (improved education) and simply saw it from different view points.

It seems you are only concerned with funding public schools regardless of outcomes.

 

[Vol8188]

Work harder. Your success/failure is the direct result of your choices.

Once again you're focusing on the parents for no reason, instead of the kids.

 

[luthervol]

Because I assume your objective is the same as mine. To improve the education students will receive. If that is the case, we should be on the same page with school vouchers.

I won't be getting your money. Nor will anyone other than schools. Isn't the purpose of your money that you are okay with being taken from you, isn't the purpose of that to fund schools?

lol.......vouchers for all in no way improves the education students will receive. It undeniably does just the opposite.

 

[85SugarVol]

If you want your kids in private schools, send them.

I am going to use the conservatives argument regarding poor people in general. If you cannot send your kids to private school it is nobody's fault but your own. Make better choices. Get a better job. If sending your kids to private school requires it, get a second job or a third job. Get rid of that cell phone, cable. Buy clothes at the local thrift store. etc etc etc.

Agreed.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Just checking. I guess I was wrong. My basic assumption was that we all wanted the same thing (improved education) and simply saw it from different view points.

It seems you are only concerned with funding public schools regardless of outcomes.

No, I think the outcome of the voucher system is bad. You continually try to mischaracterize my arguments.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Once again you're focusing on the parents for no reason, instead of the kids.

Your plan is just a crappy one. If private school is important to you and yours make it happen. I am the product of a public school and my parents wanted to send me to Webb. I didn't want to go.

 

[luthervol]

But f*** the middle class? I'm not following. And no you have not explained it. At no point have you even attempted to explain how this would increase economic segregation.

Yes I have answered. At 9:45 to be precise.

Giving poor people money for private school will increase wealth segregation?

Please explain….

No, the few poor who would take advantage would fall into the parental involvement or athletic ability segregation.
The majority of vouchers would go to parents already sending their kids to private school (which would put money in their pockets by taking it out of the funds available for public schools).
The rest would be used by parents who are already comparatively well off, but just needed that little bit of additional incentive.

Ask again in an hour, but the answer will remain the same.

And you were so emphatic.....At no point have you even attempted to explain
I accept your apology

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Once again you're focusing on the parents for no reason, instead of the kids.

Why should they be entitled to remove money from the public school system which they did not contribute? Further, why should people who do not need the money remove the funding from the public school system?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

PTA is a great place to pick up chicks.

They are all married soccer moms that get a little freaky but not enough.

 

[Vol8188]

Not with the person I was married to.

You're intentionally missing the point. It's an odd, but common left wing talking point. "2 parents aren't better because we reproduce with crazy people". It's clear that 2 parents are better than one. If that's not true in your face, make better decisions with who you reproduce with in the future. That doesn't take away from the overall point that 2 are better.