The Case FOR Tennessee

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vol66 said:
The Case FOR Tennessee is really a case about whether the SEC deserves an 11th team in the NCAA.

THE DISCLAIMER...

This is a homer thread. The purpose is to throw the numbers around and make the best case for the Vols.

Despite the fact that College Baseball Daily has us in, I will use PG's latest projections, which has us out...


Below is a table of teams and their resumes. Below the records, RPI, SOS etc...are all the teams projected in the tourney that these teams played against. As you can see, our Vols played more teams projected to be in the PG 64, than any of the other teams listed.


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We took the series from ASU 2-1 at their place.

Dallas Baptist has a SOS of 80, their record versus top 25 and top 50 teams...C'mon!

How does Old Dominion have a 30 SOS...they played 9 games against top 50 opponents, we played 29...

UCF, cruddy non-con record, record versus RPI 25 and 50 is poor...

Long Beach State is the only team up there with a losing non-conference record. We played twice the number of RPI 25 teams.

San Diego State...are you kidding me...not one single game against a top 25 team and an SOS of 139...ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE!

Then there's Clemson...should they lose to Duke tomorrow, I don't see how in the world they should get in over us, despite out poor conference record. We had to play Vandy and they get to play Duke, ugh...


Now whether one thinks I have a leg to stand on or not, even the Non SEC fans out there have to look at who we played...despite the RPI and the SOS...JUST LOOK AT IT...9 teams projected from our schedule...we beat UNLV, ASU, Vandy, UK head to head...


Now I'm not saying UT deserves to be in, I'm saying an SEC team that plays that kind of schedule versus top 25 and 50 RPI teams should carry a little more weight than some team that plays a 21 game conference schedule, or has an RPI in triple digits, or didn't play a single top 25 RPI team.

Should any of these teams falter in their conference tourneys, we should get a second look, yeah, I'm talking to you Clemson.


GBO!!!

edit, I made a mistake by putting Arky in the table above...
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Good points. Now, get the NCAA selection committee to listen.:rtfm::bash:
 
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txbo said:
I think you already stated the obvious..... 11 SEC teams is not going to happen.
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They ought to try to be a little more sly about it...I mean Southern Miss...RPI 68, SOS 84, 5-8 vs top 50 RPI.
 
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Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG · 35s

BUBBLE BURSTING: #Liberty drops a 6-5 decision to #Winthrop in the @BigSouthSports tourney. That means league gets two bids, not just one.
 
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vol66 said:
Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG · 35s

BUBBLE BURSTING: #Liberty drops a 6-5 decision to #Winthrop in the @BigSouthSports tourney. That means league gets two bids, not just one.
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League is the name of a conference?
 
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VFLinFL said:
Tennessee Baseball
• Struggled to close out games
• Couple bad non-conference losses
• Potential to be a dangerous team
• Bright future
• Below .500 conference record
• Made it to Hoover
• Play in the toughest conference
• Good non-conference record
• Non-conference schedule was tough
• PUT THEM IN THE REGIONALS!! PUT THEM IN AS THE LAST #4 SEED!!
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8-9 in one run games.

This is a team that isn't far away from being very good.
15-17 conference wins for the next season possibly 18 my prediction.
They couldn't finish resulting in multiple close but no cigar conference losses I'm optimistic now more experience that changes in the next season.

Even if the vols don't make it to a regional the future is very bright for the big orange baseball vols.
 
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firestorm said:
8-9 in one run games.

This is a team that isn't far away from being very good.
15-17 conference wins for the next season possibly 18 my prediction.
They couldn't finish resulting in multiple close but no cigar conference losses I'm optimistic now more experience that changes in the next season.

Even if the vols don't make it to a regional the future is very bright for the big orange baseball vols.
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+1 & Thumbs Up
 
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Nebraska and Indiana won...that's good

ODU on the other hand beat Rice today to force a second game and they are leading right now, not good.
 
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Rob Anderson
‏@_robanderson Dallas Baptist (RPI of 31) defeats Illinois State (RPI of 80), 4-1, to win Missouri Valey's automatic bid. Related...Bubble teams rejoice.
 
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vol66 what would YOU say is our chance of making the regionals percentage wise?
 
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Aaron Fitt ‏@aaronfitt · 10m
San Diego State is leading UNLV 8-1 in the 7th. Barring a serious rally, looking like those two teams will meet again tomorrow for MWC title

need UNLV to win...
 
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VFLinFL said:
vol66 what would YOU say is our chance of making the regionals percentage wise?
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1% if you believe the talking heads, maybe less.

I can't...myself...get past the fact that we are at 49/50 RPI and when you just look at the teams in that general vicinity, we should be in over some of the teams getting discussed. I am going on the assumption that the committee will have a sheet in front of them, not unlike the "nitty-gritty" report and if you are looking at Clemson, for instance, you can't help but look at Tennessee. I know it's hanging on by a thread, grasping at straws etc...it's just how I roll. :)

My percentage would be 15-20% chance...

I did say this was a homer thread...GBO! :loco:
 
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Let me add that a team like ODU who has given Rice a really hard time is deserving, but there are some teams that went 0-2 in their conference tourneys and we deserve a look, the same look, no more no less.
 
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vol66 said:
1% if you believe the talking heads, maybe less.

I can't...myself...get past the fact that we are at 49/50 RPI and when you just look at the teams in that general vicinity, we should be in over some of the teams getting discussed. I am going on the assumption that the committee will have a sheet in front of them, not unlike the "nitty-gritty" report and if you are looking at Clemson, for instance, you can't help but look at Tennessee. I know it's hanging on by a thread, grasping at straws etc...it's just how I roll. :)

My percentage would be 15-20% chance...

I did say this was a homer thread...GBO! :loco:
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The main reason the probability of getting a bid is so low is the number of bids for the conference.

All the discussion of whether the SEC will get 10 or 11 bids obscures the fact that no conference has ever received more than nine bids in any one year.

For the committee to raise the bar to ten will require resolution and some shrewd boardroom negotiation; to skip ten and jump all the way to eleven is more than we can expect.
 
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ShowmeVols said:
The main reason the probability of getting a bid is so low is the number of bids for the conference.

All the discussion of whether the SEC will get 10 or 11 bids obscures the fact that no conference has ever received more than nine bids in any one year.

For the committee to raise the bar to ten will require resolution and some shrewd boardroom negotiation; to skip ten and jump all the way to eleven is more than we can expect.
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This is all true.

Pepperdine wins WCC title...this is good.


It is not my intention to raise hopes here, not even to point out the flaws in the system, it's over when it's over and that is likely to be by 1 PM on Monday.

We were 2-2 versus Vandy...we were 2-1 vs. UK, we beat UF in the final game of the year, we swept UNLV and beat ASU 2-1...

We won 13 games vs. top 50 RPI opponents, look at WVU in the same light...all I'm saying.

I agree it's about what you say, but it shouldn't be.

For the record, not getting in might just serve us better, but as a fan, dammit, I think we belong as much as Stanford might.
 
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vol66 said:
This is all true.

Pepperdine wins WCC title...this is good.


It is not my intention to raise hopes here, not even to point out the flaws in the system, it's over when it's over and that is likely to be by 1 PM on Monday.

We were 2-2 versus Vandy...we were 2-1 vs. UK, we beat UF in the final game of the year, we swept UNLV and beat ASU 2-1...

We won 13 games vs. top 50 RPI opponents, look at WVU in the same light...all I'm saying.

I agree it's about what you say, but it shouldn't be.

For the record, not getting in might just serve us better, but as a fan, dammit, I think we belong as much as Stanford might.
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We don't get in serve as a major reminder win more conference games avoid the drama of being on the bubble.

It'll be mournful for several months but very beneficial in the long run.
 
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