The Case FOR Tennessee

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G8R8U2 said:
Wow, Youngstown State is going as the Horizon tourney winner and they're 16-36 for the year. :blink:

Other eye-opening teams going...

26-31 Bethune-Cookman as the MEAC tourney winner.
25-24 North Dakota State as the Summit tourney winner.
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Bethune-Cookman coached by our former pitching coach BTW.
 
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#104
Just like the basketball tourney, the best 64 aren't the 64 in the tourney.

Never are. Never will be. There's a reason for automatic bids.

Now, as unpopular as this will be on this board, I don't care if a team is playing in the American League East, you don't go 12-19 in the league and get a bid.
 
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99gator said:
Just like the basketball tourney, the best 64 aren't the 64 in the tourney.

Never are. Never will be. There's a reason for automatic bids.

Now, as unpopular as this will be on this board, I don't care if a team is playing in the American League East, you don't go 12-19 in the league and get a bid.
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I know how and why it's set up the way it is, but there should be some kind of cutoff.

If your club can't even play .500 ball, they shouldn't take up a tourney spot.

YSU's RPI is #271, and there are only 302 teams in all of college baseball.

And YSU went a lot worse than 12-19 (.388) in their conference; try 6-17 (.261).

Essentially they played Bad News Bears baseball all season, for 4 months, but didn't trip all over themselves for 1 week; and they're in.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
I know how and why it's set up the way it is, but there should be some kind of cutoff.

If your club can't even play .500 ball, they shouldn't take up a tourney spot.

YSU's RPI is #271, and there are only 302 teams in all of college baseball.

And YSU went a lot worse than 12-19 (.388) in their conference; try 6-17 (.261).

Essentially they played Bad News Bears baseball all season, for 4 months, but didn't trip all over themselves for 1 week; and they're in.
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Yea, and if they can keep that up for 2 more weeks, they'll be in Omaha. The conference tourney winner auto bids in most cases will bring a hot team into the NCAA's. That's a good thing for baseball. They reward teams that have played a good season with at large bids. Rewarding the hot team as opposed to the best team is really what postseason is all about anyways. That's why its exciting to watch.
 
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BigOrange51 said:
Yea, and if they can keep that up for 2 more weeks, they'll be in Omaha. The conference tourney winner auto bids in most cases will bring a hot team into the NCAA's. That's a good thing for baseball. They reward teams that have played a good season with at large bids. Rewarding the hot team as opposed to the best team is really what postseason is all about anyways. That's why its exciting to watch.
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What I always hear when committees talk about the invitations they extend is considering a program's entire body of work; which is a just reward for players who've excelled for months, as opposed to 1 week.

We'll see just how hot a team YSU is; the Horizon conference has a grand total of 6 teams... and how "hot" they are can be weighed against the competition they faced.

Consider this, the Horizon's actual champion, Wright State, went 35-22 and 25-4 in the conference. They were the only team in the conference that had a winning overall record... the other 5 teams had losing records, so I'll have to beg forgiveness if I'm skeptical about the quality of YSU's "hot" streak.
 
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Georgia Tech's win in the ACC championship moved them from "in danger" to "automatic" on the Warren Nolan Nitty Gritty report. Not good for bubble teams.

Xavier's win over Creighton (RPI 64) probably didn't affect the bubble.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
I know how and why it's set up the way it is, but there should be some kind of cutoff.

If your club can't even play .500 ball, they shouldn't take up a tourney spot.

YSU's RPI is #271, and there are only 302 teams in all of college baseball.

And YSU went a lot worse than 12-19 (.388) in their conference; try 6-17 (.261).

Essentially they played Bad News Bears baseball all season, for 4 months, but didn't trip all over themselves for 1 week; and they're in.
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This seems like it could be like when Alabama Birmingham went to the march madness tournament and it was egregious as Uab was steamrolled looking like they didn't even belong in the tournament.

Damn that may be the worst conference record I know of for a team to get in a regional tournament.
 
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I count 16 auto bids with RPI's worse than UT's. 64 minus 16 is 48. Than means any team with an RPI of 48 or worse needs help from the committee. At present, we are 51.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
What I always hear when committees talk about the invitations they extend is considering a program's entire body of work; which is a just reward for players who've excelled for months, as opposed to 1 week.

We'll see just how hot a team YSU is; the Horizon conference has a grand total of 6 teams... and how "hot" they are can be weighed against the competition they faced.

Consider this, the Horizon's actual champion, Wright State, went 35-22 and 25-4 in the conference. They were the only team in the conference that had a winning overall record... the other 5 teams had losing records, so I'll have to beg forgiveness if I'm skeptical about the quality of YSU's "hot" streak.
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So they look very good by beating a bunch of other sorry teams. :)
Makes me think of the giants they beat a crappy Vikings team, a mediocre packers team, eagles team that isn't first rate that won a garbage division, and i don't recall the other teams after that before it ended.
Or the eagles looking great with Foles against they know to choke bucs.
The chiefs looking great until they play the broncos.
 
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#112
Just looked at Perfect Game, we actually have more wins and have played more top 25 RPI opponents than LSU. Our schedule and results are astounding to be left at home. We're a victim of our conference more so than these teams playing in weaker conferences. The NCAA is going to refuse to jump from a record of 9 teams from one conference to 11. I will laugh hysterically if all 9 or 10 manage to move on to the Super's. The SEC's athletic dominance is a point of jealous contention across the country and it's not going away anytime soon.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Just looked at Perfect Game, we actually have more wins and have played more top 25 RPI opponents than LSU. Our schedule and results are astounding to be left at home. We're a victim of our conference more so than these teams playing in weaker conferences. The NCAA is going to refuse to jump from a record of 9 teams from one conference to 11. I will laugh hysterically if all 9 or 10 manage to move on to the Super's. The SEC's athletic dominance is a point of jealous contention across the country and it's not going away anytime soon.
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Sec the powerhouse of multiple sports.
I guess this makes them like the Justice League of America of College Sports Conferences.

Damn I love any opportunity to make a comic books reference in sports.
 
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firestorm said:
Sec the powerhouse of multiple sports.
I guess this makes them like the Justice League of America of College Sports Conferences.

Damn I love any opportunity to make a comic books reference in sports.
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Pretty much. Everybody else is booty hurt that they're not us. Especially the PAC 12.
 
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The 16 regional hosts are:

Southeastern Conference (5): Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Vanderbilt.

Atlantic Coast Conference (3): Florida State, Miami, Virginia.

Big 12 Conference (2): Oklahoma State, Texas Christian.

Big Ten Conference (1): Indiana.

Big West Conference (1): Cal Poly.

Conference USA (1): Rice.

Pacific-12 Conference (1): Oregon State.

Sun Belt Conference (1): Louisiana-Lafayette.

American Athletic Conference (1): Louisville
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31 Automatic Bids in Yellow...

The Nitty Gritty Report for 2014 NCAA Men's College Baseball - WarrenNolan.com


Later tonight PG will put out their final projections...Can't wait. We won't be in them, but should be interesting to see who is.


GBO!!!
 
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BA's final 64 projections

Final Projection: NCAA Tournament Field of 64 - BaseballAmerica.com


SEC (10): Florida, *LSU, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Arkansas, Alabama, Texas A&M.

ACC (6): Virginia, Florida State, Miami, Maryland, *Georgia Tech, North Carolina.

Big 12 (5): Oklahoma State, *TCU, Texas, Texas Tech, Kansas.

Pac-12 (5): *Oregon State, Washington, Oregon, Arizona State, Stanford.

Big West (4): *Cal Poly, Long Beach State, Cal State Fullerton, UC Irvine.

AAC (3): Louisville, *Houston, Central Florida.

Big Ten (2): *Indiana, Nebraska.

Big South (2): Liberty, *Campbell.

C-USA (2): *Rice, Old Dominion.

Missouri Valley (2): Indiana State, *Dallas Baptist.

Mountain West (2): UNLV, *San Diego State.

Southland (2): Sam Houston State, *Southeastern Louisiana.
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#119
#119
Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG · 2m

#UCIrvine, ladies and gents, is my last team in the field of 64 …. The first out? #Clemson, followed by #Mercer and #Illinois. Tough!
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UC Irvine's RPI is 43...2-8 in last 10 games...SOS of 45...8-11 vs RPI top 50...#underwhelmed
 
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Aaron Fitt ‏@aaronfitt · 3m
One team outside top 50 in the RPI I could really envision getting in: @IlliniBaseball. I wound up leaving them out, but like their resume.
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Illinois RPI is 55...SOS 95...5-4 vs. top 50 RPI...losing record vs. 101-200 RPI (8-10)
 
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#122
The selection show is in less than an hour now. I've looked at some of the teams that PG projects to be in.

I guess the situation that bugs me the most is The Big West Conference, a 9 team league getting 4 bids. UC Irvine is said to be one of the last one's in, even though they rank higher in RPI (43) compared to Cal State Fullerton's 54. I presume it's because of the way the two teams finished...CSF went 8-2, while UCI finished 2-8, losing their last six in a row...that's the worst of any of the 64 selected.

Neither of those teams SOS was as high as UT's 33 and Fullerton's RPI was three spots worse than ours. It's pretty clear a gift was given there, because neither team's resume is that much different than UT's.

The other conference that clearly was given a gift of an extra bid was the American Athletic...The SEC has 14 members and only one team had an RPI above 100 this season, Missouri.

The AAC has 9 members and 5 of them had an RPI over 131, so over half the league sucks.

UCF finished 2nd in the league regular season, Houston won the Conference tourney and Louisville finished atop the league in the regular season...Both Houston and Louisville finished out with very respectable RPI's, both were considered to be "in" the tourney, before the conference tourney.

UCF on the other hand had an RPI of 48, SOS 47, a terrible 5-11 record vs. RPI top 50 and they played 37 games vs 100-200+ opponents, their 17-15 non-conference record is mediocre at best.

It's pretty clear, it's not what we did or didn't do, it's the fact that folks feel 10 teams from the SEC is all they can stand to do.

Selection Show in 15 Min. on ESPNU
 
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