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Do you want Bruce Pearl to be Head Coach at UT next season?

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#354
#354
Sudeepvol said:
You can draw up a better play with 2 seconds left? That's a good a look as you're going to get in a catch and shoot situation. Solid play call.
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Well, the good thing about the play call was that our best player got the ball. I still think Lofton setting a backscreen and stepping to the ball probably gets a better look. That puts the defense in a precarious situation. If they don't help off the backscreen, it's a layup, and if they do help on the backscreen, Lofton gets the easy shot.

Pearl's decision was to have Lofton set a backscreen and then have a flare screen set for Lofton going to the corner. That enabled a switch by the defender who was guarding our guy that set the flare screen, which enabled the shot to be defended. The easier play is one back screen, and Lofton step to the ball.
 
#355
#355
LawVol13 said:
Well, the good thing about the play call was that our best player got the ball. I still think Lofton setting a backscreen and stepping to the ball probably gets a better look. That puts the defense in a precarious situation. If they don't help off the backscreen, it's a layup, and if they do help on the backscreen, Lofton gets the easy shot.

Pearl's decision was to have Lofton set a backscreen and then have a flare screen set for Lofton going to the corner. That enabled a switch by the defender who was guarding our guy that set the flare screen, which enabled the shot to be defended. The easier play is one back screen, and Lofton step to the ball.
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Put in your application for the next basketball coach at UT.
 
#358
#358
JZVOL said:
Lofton did hit a shot that you can't coach. However the play call was very solid. I heard Mike Dunleavey say at a lecture that the pass (thrown to Lofton) from a sideline out of bounds going toward the corner is one of the hardest to defend in basketball.
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I respect your knowledge on this board as much as anyone, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one. In a tie game, I would be looking to get something driving to the basket, but I guess that's why I watch these games at home.
 
#359
#359
TennesseeFan07 said:
I respect your knowledge on this board as much as anyone, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one. In a tie game, I would be looking to get something driving to the basket, but I guess that's why I watch these games at home.
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Can't remember the exact time left when we inbounded... do you remember?
 
#361
#361
LawVol13 said:
I guess rational conversations aren't your thing.
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In hindsight, maybe. However, the coaches had a feel for how Winthrop was defending all game. I'm thinking there were several options to choose from, and they based it on 1. We need to somehow get the best shooter the ball with either us winning or going to OT and 2. How were they defending set plays for Lofton throughout the game.

Not bashing because I do the hindsight view a lot, but it's easy to go based off if the play works and then say something rather than being in the game and seeing the tendency of Winthrop vs. previous opponents and throughout the course of a game. There's a lot of dynamics working.

Edit: This was meant to address the optional play call... sorry for the misquote.
 
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#363
#363
tvols75 said:
In hindsight, maybe. However, the coaches had a feel for how Winthrop was defending all game. I'm thinking there were several options to choose from, and they based it on 1. We need to somehow get the best shooter the ball with either us winning or going to OT and 2. How were they defending set plays for Lofton throughout the game.

Not bashing because I do the hindsight view a lot, but it's easy to go based off if the play works and then say something rather than being in the game and seeing the tendency of Winthrop vs. previous opponents and throughout the course of a game. There's a lot of dynamics working.

Edit: This was meant to address the optional play call... sorry for the misquote.
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Yea, I wasn't bashing the playcall. It had to go to Lofton, and it did. I was just saying what I would have done in the same situation.
 
#364
#364
LawVol13 said:
Yea, I wasn't bashing the playcall. It had to go to Lofton, and it did. I was just saying what I would have done in the same situation.
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But you are forgetting two very big elements amongst many others.

1. Do you know if Winthrop struggled against the play that we ran?

2. Do you know how Winthrop was defending the different play calls throughout the game?

These aren't questions to put you on the spot or to be a dick, just questions that are addressed in the situation.

Maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong, but it's hard for me to judge coaches on a play like that. Now if something is happening throughout the course of a game and you don't adjust is one thing, but the heat of the moment, 2.9 seconds left, and all those different dynamics such as 1. Winthrop's tendencies 2. Winthrop's weaknesses and 3. Winthrop's defense throughout the course of the game is another.
 
#365
#365
tvols75 said:
But you are forgetting two very big elements amongst many others.

1. Do you know if Winthrop struggled against the play that we ran?

2. Do you know how Winthrop was defending the different play calls throughout the game?

These aren't questions to put you on the spot or to be a dick, just questions that are addressed in the situation.

Maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong, but it's hard for me to judge coaches on a play like that. Now if something is happening throughout the course of a game and you don't adjust is one thing, but the heat of the moment, 2.9 seconds left, and all those different dynamics such as 1. Winthrop's tendencies 2. Winthrop's weaknesses and 3. Winthrop's defense throughout the course of the game is another.
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I'm talking about having Jajuan Smith in ball side corner. Wingate inbounding the ball. Bradshaw and Watson in a stack in front of the inbounder. Lofton on the opposite block.

Wingate slaps the ball, Bradshaw sets screen for Watson he flares to opposite wing, Lofton sets the backscreen on Bradshaw.

At that point, several things are possible. Jajuan Smith's man may help down to try to stop the lob to Bradshaw. This opens Jajuan up for a wide open shot from the corner. Lofton's man may help off of Lofton to stop the lob to Bradshaw. This opens Lofton for a wide open shot. Or, neither may help and we shoot a layup to win the game.

That play gives you 3 options. To me Pearl's play really just gave you 1.
 
#366
#366
TennesseeFan07 said:
I respect your knowledge on this board as much as anyone, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one. In a tie game, I would be looking to get something driving to the basket, but I guess that's why I watch these games at home.
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That's the beauty of those situations in sports, different coaches have different beliefs so it just depends who you talk you.
 
#367
#367
JZVOL said:
That's the beauty of those situations in sports, different coaches have different beliefs so it just depends who you talk you.
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A good play option would have been a lob to the rim, but Tennessee's lack of size would prevent that from even happening. That's why I say use Lofton as a decoy and let Watson get into the lane and make a play.
 
#368
#368
Freak said:
If people want Pearl fired because of his NCAA issues or they just don't like him, then fine. But considering what he's accomplished during his tenure at Tennessee, it's absurd to call for his firing just because this team is struggling right now.
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The team struggling right now is a side issue as to why he should leave. The only thing he had left after the NCAA mess was that his teams won. Now, he doesn't even have that. Why should he remain as coach with all the negative he has brought to the program with his lying and NCAA violations?
 
#369
#369
BasketvolsFan said:
The team struggling right now is a side issue as to why he should leave. The only thing he had left after the NCAA mess was that his teams won. Now, he doesn't even have that. Why should he remain as coach with all the negative he has brought to the program with his lying and NCAA violations?
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It is becoming more apparent that UT wants him to stay. Otherwise, he would be gone by now.
 
#370
#370
OrangeHammer said:
Would you all please stop your ignorant ranting! I'm tired of you fairweather fans who look for any excuse to have something to b*tch about. Look, if we were winning these close games you all would be PRAISING him at every turn. Instead, you promote your loyalty by BASHING a guy for making a mistake.

Before you bite the hand that feeds you, ask yourself a question. WHERE WERE WE BEFORE HE GOT HERE? He put our basketball program back on the map. Where would we be right now if we still had Buzz or Jerry? I'll tell you, NOT WATCHING TN BASKETBALL. SO why don't you all get behind your team. In the end Bruce made a big mistake.. but he will learn from it and I PROMISE you he will have us back to where we need to be. It takes time.. something VOL FANS CAN'T COMPREHEND SOMETIMES.

Give it a rest, please. It's annoying and you look foolish.

GO VOLS, GO BRUCE!!!!
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No matter what side you are on (I personally support Bruce) when you start a post without logic, it's going to make you look like an idiot. Just saying.
 
#371
#371
OaklandTnVol said:
It is becoming more apparent that UT wants him to stay. Otherwise, he would be gone by now.
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I don't think so. It would have killed the program to have fired him just before the start of the season. UT can show the NCAA that they took action against him, but when the letter of allegations is received, they now understand that they can't keep him as coach. Fire him at the end of the season and that gives you plenty of time for a coaching search to hire a quality coach.
 
#372
#372
Personally, I want CBP to pick and choose when he leaves. I don't like the coaching, but by just about any measure for UT hoops, the man has been phenomenally successful. Many of the coaching issues have come home to roost this season and are becoming more apparent, but it's hard to argue that his showmanship has done anything but raise the profile of the program.

Having to leave at swordpoint for having done a bunch of stupid crap isn't good for him or the program. I'm not concerned for him, because there is no doubt demand for his special skills at other programs. My concerns are for his shenanigans actually undermining all of the heavy lifting that he has done to date. If we left this scenario unscathed going forward, we'd have no issues hiring a guy that we could fully expect to win here at Pearl's level. If we end up in a situation where cutting ties would limit time under the knife, then we have no options. I think that's going to be the decision that has to be made and I think we'll do what me must, unfortunately.
 
#373
#373
BasketvolsFan said:
I don't think so. It would have killed the program to have fired him just before the start of the season. UT can show the NCAA that they took action against him, but when the letter of allegations is received, they now understand that they can't keep him as coach. Fire him at the end of the season and that gives you plenty of time for a coaching search to hire a quality coach.
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I can see that happening, but I can see him staying happening as well. Hubbs said this today on it.

"Tennessee is preparation for the basketball team to be placed on probation and more penalties coming. Now that could me more suspension for Pearl, post season play suspension, recruiting restrictions, loss of scholarship.

Some in the Pearl camp because the he will not be further suspended and that any punishment will be made to the program and not Pearl individually because Tennessee has made it clear that Pearl is their coach.

I tend to believe that Pearl's going to miss some more games and a post-season ban is really possible."
 
#374
#374
TennesseeFan07 said:
A good play option would have been a lob to the rim, but Tennessee's lack of size would prevent that from even happening. That's why I say use Lofton as a decoy and let Watson get into the lane and make a play.
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In 2.9 seconds with a person that struggled all game? I think I'll take my chances with Lofton.
 
#375
#375
OaklandTnVol said:
It is becoming more apparent that UT wants him to stay. Otherwise, he would be gone by now.
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Hamilton needs him to stay and UT hasn't been positioned to address Hamilton since this began. Moreover, UT isn't about to ask our coach to leave mid-season and we aren't going to ask anyone to go until we know the extent of the AA accusations. I think you're reading way too much into the fact that he's still employed. UT could have saved itself some AA issues by immediately addressing this with more than token self-imposed penalties. Taking money from the staff doesn't help in the least. Slive's suspension was a knee jerk to the non-penalties imposed internally. The AA had to have crapped when we lied, knew it and then imposed financial penalties on individuals rather than impacting the program in any real way.
 
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