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Do you want Bruce Pearl to be Head Coach at UT next season?


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I'm not familiar with the bump rule.....

Here's the football defintion of it, but there is also a basketball rule:

“Off-campus recruiting contacts shall not be made with an individual before July 1 following the completion of his junior year in high school. Any face-to-face encounter between a prospective student-athlete during which any dialogue occurs in excess of an exchange of a greeting (is prohibited). Such face-to-face encounter that is prearranged or that takes place on the grounds of the prospective student-athlete’s institution shall be considered a contact (violation).”
 
I agree he should be fired but realistically what coach would jump ship from another school one and half months before the season would begin?


Don't say promote Tony Jones because he committed that same violation with Pearl.

I think Hamilton's move was the right one at that point. He made the correct business moves in terminating Pearl's contract, which allows UT to fire him at anytime without owing a buyout.

My message would be if I was Hamilton: after reading the official findings by the NCAA, we feel that Coach Pearl's conduct falls so far below the standard of conduct we hold ourselves to here that we have no choice but to terminate him.
 
Ok, it's alleging he met with a junior prospect(I assume Jordan Adams) and that he was actively recruiting him. That would be a violation.....
 
I agree he should be fired but realistically what coach would jump ship from another school one and half months before the season would begin?

Don't say promote Tony Jones because he committed that same violation with Pearl.

It's not far-fetched to think a mid-major coach would bolt for the opportunity to coach in the SEC. Sure it would suck for the school he's leaving, but coaches are only as loyal as their opportunities.

I will be very surprised if Pearl doesn't get fired after this season.
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Here's the football defintion of it, but there is also a basketball rule:

“Off-campus recruiting contacts shall not be made with an individual before July 1 following the completion of his junior year in high school. Any face-to-face encounter between a prospective student-athlete during which any dialogue occurs in excess of an exchange of a greeting (is prohibited). Such face-to-face encounter that is prearranged or that takes place on the grounds of the prospective student-athlete’s institution shall be considered a contact (violation).”

I think that is the Saban rule..he mythotically bumped into a recruit in some strange place and said he had not intended to meet...correct?
 
It's not far-fetched to think a mid-major coach would bolt for the opportunity to coach in the SEC. Sure it would suck for the school he's leaving, but coaches are only as loyal as their opportunities.

I will be very surprised if Pearl doesn't get fired after this season.
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This. I loved the Pearl era, but it's over. The problem now is this...the longer we stay with him, the more the University will get hit with punishments rather than firing Pearl, letting him get his show-cause, and us taking what punishments we would deserve as a University (which would be lowered somewhat since we punished Pearl too). This will in turn result in finding it harder and harder to bring in a good coach. We will hire someone, but a good named coach isn't going to want to leave somewhere to step in to sanctions, only the young who really shouldn't be offered this job would jump. Enter Kermit Davis.
 
No way. He was so tearful and sincere in the press conference. There is no way that he could have done this. He is an honest man, one of the few remaining in college basketball.

Pearl is UT basketball and would never do anything to change that fact or harm the university/athletic program.
 
How can they prove it was more than just a "bump?" I'm not defending him, I'm just curious.....Nick Saban managed to untangle his way out of a similar situation.

It's normally a minor violation. The 'AA is calling it a major violation in the letter. So, as tripper says, that says a lot. And it's not good.
 
How can they prove it was more than just a "bump?" I'm not defending him, I'm just curious.....Nick Saban managed to untangle his way out of a similar situation.

They say it was a two or three minute conversation. Jordan Adams might have been asked, or the Oak Hill HS coach.
 
How can they prove it was more than just a "bump?" I'm not defending him, I'm just curious.....Nick Saban managed to untangle his way out of a similar situation.

Was the violation claimed to be at the high school of the prospect prior to practice?
 
I have always been the type of person who favored giving people a second chance and the benefit of the doubt (having been the recepient of many a second chances myself) but if someone continues to do the same thing over and over again you have to cut them loose.

As far as the secondary violation that occured on the 14th, I have several questions before I make a knee jerk reaction...
1) Was this violation self reported by Bruce before anyone knew?
2) Is this not the bump violation that is considered a minor secondary one that all coaches (especially saban) do?
3) Is it a continuation of the same type of issues or is this something new?
 
For some reason people don't get that or choose not to. It is almost always a minor but the NCAA deemed it major. Very telling.
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Thanks Tripper.....did not see that, this answers a lot of my questions
 
I'm gonna have to hop step back and say I was wrong on this one. I have read a lot of peoples opinion on him and what he did and I think I might be wrong. I think him crying then cheating again after is a sign of another kind of coach we don't want.
 
Was the "bump" classed as a major violation on its own merits, or was it elevated from minor in conjunction with the unethical conduct charge? Is it set in stone as a major violation, or is there a chance that Tennessee could have it reduced to a minor on appeal? In my opinion, no one likely has enough information to make an well-informed judgment on this particular charge. The letter itself doesn't explain why the "bump" was classed as a major infraction, so the NCAA's motivations for such likely remain only within the Committee on Infractions itself. The university knew about the "bump" violation prior to receiving the letter (although the public did not), so it's likely that they have an account (potentially biased) of the events. However, I haven't seen anything about the "bump" aside from the NCAA letter and resulting internet speculation.

If CBP went to Oak Hill with every intention of improperly contacting a recruit, then the outrage is appropriate. However, just like in the cases of the numerous police run-ins of Tennessee athletes in the past few years, there is a process. The administration apparently has both the time and the desire to see it out. Counterintuitively, many unaffiliated message board posters apparently have neither.

What was the last major incident at UT? Bar Knoxville, right? Plenty of fans were up in arms about it, but as the process moved along, the wait-and-see approach taken by CDD turned out to be the correct one. I'm pretty sure that Myles was the only casualty, and he was already on thin ice. For everyone else involved, it's basically a non-issue at this point.

Obviously this investigation is really unlikely to become a non-issue, at least not for several years. However, the "bump" violation potentially could, at least in the absence of future details to the contrary. It alone shouldn't be changing any opinions on the proper course for UT's administration to take. Yet.
 
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