The disney insanity continues

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ClearwaterVol said:
That is being triggered? How do you have a rational discussion about this issue when somebody's hypothesis appears to be that God will destroy America because of the alphabet people.
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You do know that our Entire Civilization over the course of 2000 years was built on Christianity. Without the Christian religion and its impact on Europe and the World, it is doubtful we are in the spot we are today.

Even the Democratic movement was led by religious organizations, including FreeMasonry which I am a part of. Without these organizations, you likely don't even have the right to post this message in a board.
 
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Ernest T. Vol said:
All tax policy is political...the root of the word. Are you not for taxing people and entities differently based on demographics?
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I am for a flat tax, actually, but I understand that a system like that would never be accepted or used by our government. Everybody pays x% and then if you need help, step up to the subsistence line to receive your payout for being a "special" business, someone with kids, someone that owns a house, or whatever the people want to subsidize. At least then everyone's mooching wouldn't be hidden in the tax code when you can clear seen the inflows and outflows.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I stated that Disney was different 55 years ago. Companies weren’t blatantly pushing political agendas then. Your interpretations continue to miss the target. Implied? Were fine? I believe?
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So you are saying special tax breaks are fine as long as companies aren't pushing political agendas?
 
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volkyries said:
I am for a flat tax, actually, but I understand that a system like that would never be accepted or used by our government. Everybody pays x% and then if you need help, step up to the subsistence line to receive your payout for being a "special" business, someone with kids, someone that owns a house, or whatever the people want to subsidize. At least then everyone's mooching wouldn't be hidden in the tax code when you can clear seen the inflows and outflows.
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So, as a flat taxer, you believe everyone and everything should be taxed the same percentage?
 
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This is where Democracy is failing. Protecting the rights of Homosexuals stomps all over the rights of religious people such as Christians, Jews, and Muslims. All three of the Abrahamic religions (and I imagine other religions) have strong worded view points that don't match the homosexual movement.
Teaching homosexuality to third graders definitely stamps on the rights of a Christian/Muslim parent to raise their kids in their faith. You cannot deny that.

It will be interesting the way our society goes but I will say that Christ sums it up well: "Straight and Narrow is the path to destruction." It is only a matter of time before Christianity is outlawed in the USA (or Christians are forced to water down their religion to meet society). Christianity will have to go underground like they did in the Soviet Union, Ancient Rome, Ottoman Empire, or like they have to do in China today. Get ready. This is just the general history of the faith. All of the Prophets, Christ Himself, and all of the Apostles suffered terribly for their faith.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Threatening to take away their cozy tax arrangement is a way to put their push to sexually indoctrinate 5 year olds is what’s being highlighted.
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Explain to me how Disney gets hit in terms of taxes on this. The newspapers, which I don’t believe, are trying to put this burden on the local citizens. What new burden does this place on Disney? I assumed the counties were not receiving any tax dollars from Disney and after this they would. But it appears they already are, so I was wrong about that.
 
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Ernest T. Vol said:
So, as a flat taxer, you believe everyone and everything should be taxed the same percentage?
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That is what I said. You can have different types of taxes (corporate, personal, investment, etc), but once a category is established then it should be evenly applied and then breaks can be given in those categories as well. Business investment rebate in corporate, child and mortgage rebate in personal. Retirement rebate for retirement accounts.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Looks like retreating to the bailey again. I have no interest in debating you on the bailey. We’re in agreement that discussion of ideology in public schools should be controlled by the majority. That’s why I called it a failed regime. That’s why I said “parental rights” about 100 times in this thread. “They did it first” is not a defense, and, in my opinion, every school should teach that.

This looks like a very long post and I’m going to need some assurances that the whole thing isn’t just a defense of the bailey before I dive in.
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As you defined the bailey, it is not my argument. I reiterate that a law protecting the welfare of children doesn't hinge on parental knowledge or approval. Nor that of a majority. And mine isn't arguing "they did it first" but that they are doing it, period, and that the only debate is whether one considers it abuse or not.

My concerns are child-centered first, and a photo-finish societal tie regarding a government imposed Newspeak that demands we take leave of our senses and eschew what we know innately and by scientific & social observation to be true. And I'm rhetorically asking why are we applying a tourniquet to children and adults generally rather than band-aid those who are dysphoric.

Lastly, I'm asserting this is not accidental, but a coordinated, leftist movement that attempts to deconstruct the constitutional republic. It's why BLM, (professedly) representing a community less tolerant of alt-sex persons than perhaps any other, carries a black-fisted flag in one hand and a Pride flag in the other. I'm not saying every person in the chain - whether admin or teacher - are foaming Marxists, but that distinction hardly matters when Hell's road is paved by well-meaning people with leftist agenda. If inclined to discuss the post at all, I'd rather this contention not derail the points above, as it's a topic within itself.
 
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volkyries said:
That is what I said. You can have different types of taxes (corporate, personal, investment, etc), but once a category is established then it should be evenly applied and then breaks can be given in those categories as well. Business investment rebate in corporate, child and mortgage rebate in personal. Retirement rebate for retirement accounts.
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Got it...you are for a flat tax, the same for everybody, but with categories established and breaks given in those categories. LOL.
 
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volkyries said:
So you are saying special tax breaks are fine as long as companies aren't pushing political agendas?
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No. Tax breaks could be fine if the end result is a net positive financial impact to the government body issuing them. But a crazy political agenda tends to create resistance. Socialist-wood in Pigeon Forge might draw in Leftist’s entertainment dollars, but the community might not be on board.

Nothing will happen to Walt Disney World. DeSantis is **** stirring. Good for him. Liberal panties are wadded up and it’s hilarious.
 
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luthervol said:
Stopping it? I've been in education for decades and have never once witnessed it or heard first or second hand of it happening.
The law is nothing but right wing crack meant to ensure the continued mindless addiction.
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Seen what, exactly? If we're talking about gender ideology, I and others have posted numerous examples. And it would have been within the last decade at the PK-12 level. What state/metro systems have you worked in that period?
 
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Ernest T. Vol said:
Got it...you are for a flat tax, the same for everybody, but with categories established and breaks given in those categories. LOL.
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I am fine either way. Flat tax for everything or categories. It is kind of foolish to treat personal wages with corporate earnings, but I could go that way if it was established.

I said breaks, but meant rebates and the two are very different. You pay and then then you ask for your money back if you want to fall into a special government category that has been established to promote something (birth rates, home ownership, not being poor in retirement). I am just as happy with a flat % on everything with no rebates.

Truthfully, I would be happy with any system closer to a flat tax than our current one, but hey, to be honest I will continue to get my breaks for making babies and buying big houses.

ETA: I said both breaks and rebates, meant rebates which was in line with my previous comments about showing up to a different line (not the tax line) to receive a subsidy.
 
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luthervol said:
Stopping it? I've been in education for decades and have never once witnessed it or heard first or second hand of it happening.
The law is nothing but right wing crack meant to ensure the continued mindless addiction.
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So because you haven’t personally seen it means it’s not happening?
 
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NCFisher said:
As you defined the bailey, it is not my argument. I reiterate that a law protecting the welfare of children doesn't hinge on parental knowledge or approval. Nor that of a majority. And mine isn't arguing "they did it first" but that they are doing it, period, and that the only debate is whether one considers it abuse or not.

My concerns are child-centered first, and a photo-finish societal tie regarding a government imposed Newspeak that demands we take leave of our senses and eschew what we know innately and by scientific & social observation to be true. And I'm rhetorically asking why are we applying a tourniquet to children and adults generally rather than band-aid those who are dysphoric.

Lastly, I'm asserting this is not accidental, but a coordinated, leftist movement that attempts to deconstruct the constitutional republic. It's why BLM, (professedly) representing a community less tolerant of alt-sex persons than perhaps any other, carries a black-fisted flag in one hand and a Pride flag in the other. I'm not saying every person in the chain - whether admin or teacher - are foaming Marxists, but that distinction hardly matters when Hell's road is paved by well-meaning people with leftist agenda. If inclined to discuss the post at all, I'd rather this contention not derail the points above, as it's a topic within itself.
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Let me try to get at it another way:

Explain to me how your belief that a free market system that mandates the informed consent of the parents would support widespread abuse or recruitment of children into what you call alt sex/genderism is reasonable.
 
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@lawgator1 based on that statute we looked at yesterday, could Orange and Osceola counties enact almost the same special tax district, locally? The statute referenced county-created districts.
 
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Interesting about the Disney gov themselves, they were covering up alot of issues and accusations concerning minorities and abuse
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Let's be honest here. You don't like the bill because it's being supported by Christians, conservatives, republicans, and Desantis. You are totally OK with sacrificing children because of your disdain for those groups. You liberals are sick minded.
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Let's be honest. You are supporting a bill you haven't read. That is the definition of stupid.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Leftists love to pull out the off target Nazi crap. Nancy, Maxine, Hillary, AOC, Barry, Bernie - they can all keep spewing their garbage. If the Dems want to be taken seriously though they need to stop celebrating their ****.
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I don't want to silence any republicans because I don't believe in a dictatorship. But you seem to
 
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