The disney insanity continues

[ClearwaterVol]

You do know that our Entire Civilization over the course of 2000 years was built on Christianity. Without the Christian religion and its impact on Europe and the World, it is doubtful we are in the spot we are today.

Even the Democratic movement was led by religious organizations, including FreeMasonry which I am a part of. Without these organizations, you likely don't even have the right to post this message in a board.

Absolute garbage.

 

[RockyTop85]

This thread is giving off heavy “we should be the first to overthrow the republic” vibes.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

All the Republicans in this thread are supporting DeSantis punishing a single political opponent via legislative act?

That is perhaps the most unamerican thing I have heard any of you support. Please defend that position.

 

[Septic]

Ordinarily going after Disney would bother me but this is stripping a company of a special benefit that other companies don't have the luxury. If you are going to enter the realm of politicking against local government then expect some pushback that at least makes you follow the same rules as all the other companies. This is not the Mickey Mouse club Disney we all remember growing up.

Nope. You don't get to cherry pick.

Either you believe the 1A applies to corporations, or you do not. There is no middle ground.

Supporting overt retaliation under the guise of "entering the realm of politicking" is also supporting Obama's IRS targeting conservative orginazations.

Time to pick a lane.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

In which one did I call a poster a name? Maybe you’re correct if I actually called one of you a Leftist. That’s a disgusting thing to call somebody.

Disney isn’t a political opponent.

They opposed the political agenda of DeSantis. Makes them a political opponent in my mind. Not sure what you would call them.

So, instead of quibbling over the minor verbage, justify the government punishing a citizen for speaking out against the government.

 

[Sandman 423]

It's funny you whine about name calling considering a great many of your posts name call.

You are supporting government action to silence/punish political opponents. That is single party dictator stuff. So own your position, you ignorant wretch.

That is pretty much the norm around here so long as it's your guy that is doing it.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

That is pretty much the norm around here so long as it's your guy that is doing it.

I haven't supported either party doing it. In this instance, a law is being passed to punish said company.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

They opposed the political agenda of DeSantis. Makes them a political opponent in my mind. Not sure what you would call them.

So, instead of quibbling over the minor verbage, justify the government punishing a citizen for speaking out against the government.

The Democrat party isn’t “the government”.

 

[Ernest T. Vol]

They opposed the political agenda of DeSantis. Makes them a political opponent in my mind. Not sure what you would call them.

So, instead of quibbling over the minor verbage, justify the government punishing a citizen for speaking out against the government.

You're emotionally compromised. The other side of the same coin: What justifies the government giving subsidies to political allies? The only difference in a tax and a subsidy is the direction of the political winds. Tell us you support a special subsidy to Hobby Lobby or Chickfila to support your arguments.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

The Democrat party isn’t “the government”.

Are you drunk?

Republicans control the governor's seat and the legislature in Florida. The legislature passed a law to punish a company that had spoken out against the governor.

So, again stop quibbling over verbage and address the point.

 

[Sandman 423]

I haven't supported either party doing it. In this instance, a law is being passed to punish said company.

It was kinda of a blanket statement.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

You're emotionally compromised. The other side of the same coin: What justifies the government giving subsidies to political allies? The only difference in a tax and a subsidy is the direction of the political winds. Tell us you support a special subsidy to Hobby Lobby or Chickfila to support your arguments.

I don't agree with that either. I believe in single purpose bills. No more bridge building in Montana tacked onto an education bill etc. I understand tax breaks when it comes to enticing business to a state.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Are you drunk?

Republicans control the governor's seat and the legislature in Florida. The legislature passed a law to punish a company that had spoken out against the governor.

So, again stop quibbling over verbage and address the point.

You’re confused and overly emotional. Does the legislation state that it’s meant to punish a company speaking out against the governor?

The points that I’ve made are that the Disney tax revenues shouldn’t be compared to zero if they were to no longer occupy the 40 square mile footprint, DeSantis is drawing attention to the over the top woke Disney agenda, and Disney deserves to face a backlash after their efforts to sexually indoctrinate innocent children. It is hilarious to see the Leftists fighting for the big, bad corporation. I don’t give a flip about their local tax deals or the removal thereof.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

You’re confused and overly emotional. Does the legislation state that it’s meant to punish a company speaking out against the governor?

The points that I’ve made are that the Disney tax revenues shouldn’t be compared to zero if they were to no longer occupy the 40 square mile footprint, DeSantis is drawing attention to the over the top woke Disney agenda, and Disney deserves to face a backlash after their efforts to sexually indoctrinate innocent children. It is hilarious to see the Leftists fighting for the big, bad corporation. I don’t give a flip about their local tax deals or the removal thereof.

Emotional? You made a nonsensical comment and I asked if you were drunk. Nothing emotional. It was you who was confused.

"Does the legislation state that it’s meant to punish a company speaking out against the governor?" Let me give you run down of the events.

1. Disney speaks out against governor.
2. Governor responds by saying we should take away Disney's special governing status.
3. Legislature passes a bill doing just that 3 days later.
4. There has been no review of the tax impact one way or another.

So, I am going with it is you that is confused.

I will ask the question again that not a single person has had the cajones to answer directly. Should the government silence/punish the political opposition via a legislative act for speaking out?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Let's be honest. You are supporting a bill you haven't read. That is the definition of stupid.

Sounds like your lovable and smart Nancy Pelosi. You should be good with it. Meanwhile, I'm sure ok teaching kindergarteners all about Molly has two daddys.

 

[VolStrom]

Emotional? You made a nonsensical comment and I asked if you were drunk. Nothing emotional. It was you who was confused.

"Does the legislation state that it’s meant to punish a company speaking out against the governor?" Let me give you run down of the events.

1. Disney speaks out against governor.
2. Governor responds by saying we should take away Disney's special governing status.
3. Legislature passes a bill doing just that 3 days later.
4. There has been no review of the tax impact one way or another.

So, I am going with it is you that is confused.

I will ask the question again that not a single person has had the cajones to answer directly. Should the government silence/punish the political opposition via a legislative act for speaking out?

Why not? Corporations punish citizens and local governments if they don't get their way. MLB pulling the all star game from Atlanta is a perfect example.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Sounds like your lovable and smart Nancy Pelosi. You should be good with it. Meanwhile, I'm sure ok teaching kindergarteners all about Molly has two daddys.

You are special aren't you? Start off with a lie implying I support Nancy Pelosi. Find a single post where I sing her praises. Who cares if Kindergartners find out that Molly has two daddys. I got news pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make it so. Molly is going to tell the kids about her two daddys.

But continue to be ignorant by supporting laws you haven't read.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Why not? Corporations punish citizens and local governments if they don't get their way. MLB pulling the all star game from Atlanta is a perfect example.

It is a one way street. Citizens get to criticize and attempt to punish the government not the other way around. That is kind of the whole point of that pesky first amendment.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Emotional? You made a nonsensical comment and I asked if you were drunk. Nothing emotional. It was you who was confused.

"Does the legislation state that it’s meant to punish a company speaking out against the governor?" Let me give you run down of the events.

1. Disney speaks out against governor.
2. Governor responds by saying we should take away Disney's special governing status.
3. Legislature passes a bill doing just that 3 days later.
4. There has been no review of the tax impact one way or another.

So, I am going with it is you that is confused.

I will ask the question again that not a single person has had the cajones to answer directly. Should the government silence/punish the political opposition via a legislative act for speaking out?

The chickens are finally coming home to roost. For years the left expanded government and used it as influence obtain their objects. Now that populism has taken over the Republican party, the right has been starting to use the same playbook.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

The chickens are finally coming home to roost. For years the left expanded government and used it as influence obtain their objects. Now that populism has taken over the Republican party, the right has been starting to use the same playbook.

I think this instance is taking it farther than what I've seen in terms of passing a law to punish a single entity. And regardless of who has done it. It's wrong and somebody needs to be the adult in the room.

 

[VolStrom]

I think this instance is taking it farther than what I've seen in terms of passing a law to punish a single entity. And regardless of who has done it. It's wrong and somebody needs to be the adult in the room.

Maybe when the bill is signed into law, Disney's new CEO will negotiate a settlement with the Florida governor.

 

[Ernest T. Vol]

It is a one way street. Citizens get to criticize and attempt to punish the government not the other way around. That is kind of the whole point of that pesky first amendment.

From your own backyard last summer: The Tampa Bay Times

ORLANDO — The Walt Disney Co. stands to benefit from more than a half billion dollars in tax breaks for building a new regional campus in Florida that promises to employ at least 2,000 professional employees who will be relocating from Southern California to work in digital technology, finance and product development.

Disney may get $570M in tax breaks for new Florida campus: report

Do you know if DIS is still getting this special incentive? Is refusing to give special treatment a punishment? All incentives and special status are based on politics. DIS can say whatever they want, but the politicians don't have to pay them for it.

 

[PKT_VOL]

I think this instance is taking it farther than what I've seen in terms of passing a law to punish a single entity. And regardless of who has done it. It's wrong and somebody needs to be the adult in the room.

Not really, happens all the time in the way laws and regulations are written. This just has a lot of news coverage at the moment.

Of course it is wrong. It is wrong when the left does. It is wrong when the right does.

The solution is smaller, less influential government.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Emotional? You made a nonsensical comment and I asked if you were drunk. Nothing emotional. It was you who was confused.

"Does the legislation state that it’s meant to punish a company speaking out against the governor?" Let me give you run down of the events.

1. Disney speaks out against governor.
2. Governor responds by saying we should take away Disney's special governing status.
3. Legislature passes a bill doing just that 3 days later.
4. There has been no review of the tax impact one way or another.

So, I am going with it is you that is confused.

I will ask the question again that not a single person has had the cajones to answer directly. Should the government silence/punish the political opposition via a legislative act for speaking out?

Disney climbed into bed with the state of Florida. If their executives and attorneys struck a deal that left them exposed decades later, that’s their problem. If the residents of Florida don’t want to continue with the incentives agreed to with Disney, for WHATEVER reason, that’s their option. The legislation is the card that’s being dealt. The interpretation will be settled in court. Funny how much the Left hates the Constitution that will keep those pesky Florida Republicans from punishing poor Disney if the government went too far.

When Disney was able to obtain special legislation that pertains only to them, there is no broad stroke of the government singling them out for persecution if the people move to change that legislation.

Again, it is hilarious to see the Leftists fighting for the multi-billion dollar company.

1-4 is a simpleton outline. Try filling in some of the omitted pieces.

 

[MurphyVol]

Disney climbed into bed with the state of Florida. If their executives and attorneys struck a deal that left them exposed decades later, that’s their problem. If the residents of Florida don’t want to continue with the incentives agreed to with Disney, for WHATEVER reason, that’s their option. The legislation is the card that’s being dealt. The interpretation will be settled in court. Funny how much the Left hates the Constitution that will keep those pesky Florida Republicans from punishing poor Disney if the government went too far.

When Disney was able to obtain special legislation that pertains only to them, there is no broad stroke of the government singling them out for persecution if the people move to change that legislation.

Again, it is hilarious to see the Leftists fighting for the multi-billion dollar company.

1-4 is a simpleton outline. Try filling in some of the omitted pieces.

What are these incentives Disney is getting?