The disney insanity continues

[TheDeeble]

I'm not getting how this move hurts Disney. They no longer have to provide municipal services for their theme park, their taxes don't go up. How does this punish Disney?

I could see it significantly slowing down their building projects. Before I believe they could review and approve their own construction/improvement projects. Now I believe they will have to go through the slog of city govt approval and review.

 

[VolStrom]

Not sure understand the question but they pay what is required of everyone else the cover fire, wastewater, etc and choose not to take it.

Their tax liability would stay the same after this is enacted and they would stop spending $100 mil per year on their private services. And Reedy's 1 billion in debt service goes over to the county.

I'm guessing the county/ies where Disney is located probably has a standard design for a fire hall and a police station that Disney wouldn't want on their property. All this hand wringing over this is nonsense. Disney pushed their woke Kool-Aid hair employee agenda on the wrong state, and now they have to figure out how to walk it back. I would guess that a new CEO gets named soon and all of this is forgotten.

 

[MurphyVol]

I'm not getting how this move hurts Disney. They no longer have to provide municipal services for their theme park, their taxes don't go up. How does this punish Disney?

It may not, depends on how well Orange County can manage the area.

Like most things local governments do, I'm guessing they'd manage it poorly. I

 

[utvolpj]

I'm guessing the county/ies where Disney is located probably has a standard design for a fire hall and a police station that Disney wouldn't want on their property. All this hand wringing over this is nonsense. Disney pushed their woke Kool-Aid hair employee agenda on the wrong state, and now they have to figure out how to walk it back. I would guess that a new CEO gets named soon and all of this is forgotten.

Yeah they spoke out in a state ran by a govt that would punish them for doing so. Freedom!

 

[TheDeeble]

Not sure understand the question but they pay what is required of everyone else the cover fire, wastewater, etc and choose not to take it.

People have mentioned the cost for services Disney has been paying(fire, police, ect) that local govt will now have to provide since Disney no longer pays a second cost to provide it themselves on top of what they paid.

I'm just trying to get an idea of that cost that will supposedly raise the taxes on citizens for fire, police, ect services.

 

[VolStrom]

You're kidding. How old is the one they are in?

I'm thinking it opened in the late 90's. 1997/98 time frame.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I'm guessing the county/ies where Disney is located probably has a standard design for a fire hall and a police station that Disney wouldn't want on their property. All this hand wringing over this is nonsense. Disney pushed their woke Kool-Aid hair employee agenda on the wrong state, and now they have to figure out how to walk it back. I would guess that a new CEO gets named soon and all of this is forgotten.

I'm guessing DeSantis won't sign it.

 

[MurphyVol]

I'm guessing the county/ies where Disney is located probably has a standard design for a fire hall and a police station that Disney wouldn't want on their property. All this hand wringing over this is nonsense. Disney pushed their woke Kool-Aid hair employee agenda on the wrong state, and now they have to figure out how to walk it back. I would guess that a new CEO gets named soon and all of this is forgotten.

I'd guess Florida walks it back. As a conservative, I take offense at the idea that a corporation wants to cover their own expenses and debts and a governor wants to transfer it to the property owners in his state.

 

[Sea Ray]

People have mentioned the cost for services Disney has been paying(fire, police, ect) that local govt will now have to provide since Disney no longer pays a second cost to provide it themselves on top of what they paid.

I'm just trying to get an idea of that cost that will supposedly raise the taxes on citizens for fire, police, ect services.

If Disney is no longer paying those services then gov't needs to raise their taxes appropriately to balance this cost. Since this bill isn't doing that, I think it is flawed.

I wonder if this whole thing is a bluff and DeSantis will either veto it or it'll be repealed in the next yr

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

I mostly stay off the politics section of VN, but this subject definitely has my attention. My thoughts are that it truly doesn't matter right now how it affects Disney or even the taxpayers. This issue comes down to a Governor and state elected officials retaliating against a company for publicly disagreeing with a bill they passed. It is also an act of intimidation by the government to keep other companies from saying anything. Whatever party you claim, this should bother everyone. Maybe the best thing is for Disney not to have a special status, but the circumstances behind this move are very concerning.

 

[VolStrom]

Yeah they spoke out in a state ran by a govt that would punish them for doing so. Freedom!

I don't live there. Dollywood doesn't come out and make comments about legislation in Tennessee. Corporations only exist to make money for their stock holders and Disney's CEO should have just kept his mouth shut.

 

[luthervol]

I mostly stay off the politics section of VN, but this subject definitely has my attention. My thoughts are that it truly doesn't matter right now how it affects Disney or even the taxpayers. This issue comes down to a Governor and state elected officials retaliating against a company for publicly disagreeing with a bill they passed. It is also an act of intimidation by the government to keep other companies from saying anything. Whatever party you claim, this should bother everyone. Maybe the best thing is for Disney not to have a special status, but the circumstances behind this move are very concerning.

Post more often. This post alone puts you in the top 2%.

 

[utvolpj]

I don't live there. Dollywood doesn't come out and make comments about legislation in Tennessee. Corporations only exist to make money for their stock holders and Disney's CEO should have just kept his mouth shut.

the Supreme Court says corps are people. As such they have the same rights as citizens. Are you currently in favor of govt punishing citizens for exercising free speech?

 

[VolStrom]

the Supreme Court says corps are people. As such they have the same rights as citizens. Are you currently in favor of govt punishing citizens for exercising free speech?

Are you for companies punishing citizens of certain states if said state passes a law a company doesn't like?

 

[utvolpj]

Are you for companies punishing citizens of certain states if said state passes a law a company doesn't like?

quite telling you won't answer

Who is being punished by a corp? I don't view saying "welcome friends" as punishment

 

[ClearwaterVol]

If Disney is no longer paying those services then gov't needs to raise their taxes appropriately to balance this cost. Since this bill isn't doing that, I think it is flawed.

I wonder if this whole thing is a bluff and DeSantis will either veto it or it'll be repealed in the next yr

You still don't get it. Disney has been paying twice. Once via taxes and once via a contract to provide services. So, for the last 50 years the citizens have received a tax benefit.

 

[RockyTop85]

I mostly stay off the politics section of VN, but this subject definitely has my attention. My thoughts are that it truly doesn't matter right now how it affects Disney or even the taxpayers. This issue comes down to a Governor and state elected officials retaliating against a company for publicly disagreeing with a bill they passed. It is also an act of intimidation by the government to keep other companies from saying anything. Whatever party you claim, this should bother everyone. Maybe the best thing is for Disney not to have a special status, but the circumstances behind this move are very concerning.

This is the politics forum. We can’t have this kind of reasonableness, here!

 

[SamRebel35]

A timeline of events:

Disney: Wields their power to try to influence the vote of a political bill

Florida Government: If it is a political battle you're after, then let's proceed. (Removes special tax exmpt status)

Disney: What!?!? You can't do that!!! We're just a a family entertainment company!!!

The way I see it, if Disney wants to become a political lobby, then they are opening themselves up to political backlash. I very much disagree with politcally targeting businesses and corporations, but it gets a lot murkier when the businesses and corporations are interjecting themselves into local political processes.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Are you for companies punishing citizens of certain states if said state passes a law a company doesn't like?

I am all for citizens voting with their wallet regarding political issues. MLB moving the all star game is fine. It is a citizen speaking out against government action by punishing the state. The government does not get the same privilege. Good grief, we have a bunch of budding dictators in here.

 

[utvolpj]

A timeline of events:

Disney: Wields their power to try to influence the vote of a political bill

Florida Government: If it is a political battle you're after, then let's proceed. (Removes special tax exmpt status)

Disney: What!?!? You can't do that!!! We're just a a family entertainment company!!!

The way I see it, if Disney wants to become a political lobby, then they are opening themselves up to political backlash. I very much disagree with politcally targeting businesses and corporations, but it gets a lot murkier when the businesses and corporations are interjecting themselves into local political processes.

What was Disney's actual response?

Should a company stay silent when govt directly affects their workers? Lots of companies doing that lately yet they don't have this backlash

 

[ClearwaterVol]

A timeline of events:

Disney: Wields their power to try to influence the vote of a political bill

Florida Government: If it is a political battle you're after, then let's proceed. (Removes special tax exmpt status)

Disney: What!?!? You can't do that!!! We're just a a family entertainment company!!!

The way I see it, if Disney wants to become a political lobby, then they are opening themselves up to political backlash. I very much disagree with politcally targeting businesses and corporations, but it gets a lot murkier when the businesses and corporations are interjecting themselves into local political processes.

They have every right to interject themselves. That doesn't give rise to the government retaliation.

 

[VolStrom]

quite telling you won't answer

Who is being punished by a corp? I don't view saying "welcome friends" as punishment

No it's not quite telling because I don't fall for these little tricks that people like you pull.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

 

[utvolpj]

No it's not quite telling because I don't fall for these little tricks that people like you pull.

Yes, basic English conversation is a trick. Drat, foiled again!

 

[ClearwaterVol]

What I have learned today... bunch of people round these parts that don't really care for the 1A.