The disney insanity continues

[ClearwaterVol]

An argument . . . yes. But I think it's shaky when the big stick is favorable tax treatment that's applied in a disparate manner.

Again - I think the whole thing is a dumb political idea that is hypocritical in the face of cancel culture.

Had the government done this at any other time... sure. But now? That dog don't hunt.

 

[SamRebel35]

1A per ClearwaterVol:

Congress shall make no laws removing previously granted special tax designation from corporations who use 38 lobbyists to sway political outcomes.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Can you show me where a law has been passed which infringes free speech? You keep saying I hate 1A. Where is 1A being violated?

Disney spoke out and DeSantis immediately made the threat to remove the special district and legislature followed through on that threat. I would say that qualifies as passing a law that is designed to chill free speech. It is definitely not a clear cut winner, but I think as far as intent was to silence or punish disney. It's not the government's place to do that.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

1A per ClearwaterVol:

The government shall make no laws removing previously granted tax exempt status from corporations who use 38 lobbyists to sway political outcomes.

No tax exempt status. Jeez. It's like talking to two year olds in here.

 

[utvolpj]

Nope. I seem to remember a lot of chatter about, "1A means you're free to say anything you want, but it doesn't mean you're free from the consequences of what you say".

You are free from consequences from the govt. That's actually the point of it. FL is targeting them for exercising their free speech right

 

[ClearwaterVol]

As usual, you resort to lawyer, look it up yourself verbiage. Don't assert something unless you can prove your point. I can't stand it when people say something and when asked about it, they say, look it up yourself. You must suck royally as a lawyer, if you even are.

You posed an unanswerable question because of your ignorance and then you blame me. Sure, sounds reasonable.

And bravo for the use of the phrase "suck royally." Although your parents might send you off to bed early for that potty mouth.

 

[GAVol]

Disney spoke out and DeSantis immediately made the threat to remove the special district and legislature followed through on that threat. I would say that qualifies as passing a law that is designed to chill free speech. It is definitely not a clear cut winner, but I think as far as intent was to silence or punish disney. It's not the government's place to do that.

We all know what the motives are, but is it really chilling free speech when the government hasn't done anything to take the right itself away? If the tax district is removed, Disney employees and lobbyists can still say and do the same things that they did prior to the legislature acting.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

No tax exempt status. Jeez. It's like talking to two year olds in here.

Disney paid over $780M in state and local taxes last year.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

We all know what the motives are, but is it really chilling free speech when the government hasn't done anything to take the right itself away? If the tax district is removed, Disney employees and lobbyists can still say and do the same things that they did prior to the legislature acting.

It is designed to be punitive measure.

Disney's silence has me wondering if they've "fallen in the briar patch."

 

[allvol123]

You are free from consequences for the govt. That's actually the point of it. FL is targeting them for exercising their free speech right

How are they being targeted? It was explained to me that the citizens of the 2 counties are going to eat this sandwich.

What is Disney going to suffer here?

 

[utvolpj]

We all know what the motives are, but is it really chilling free speech when the government hasn't done anything to take the right itself away? If the tax district is removed, Disney employees and lobbyists can still say and do the same things that they did prior to the legislature acting.

But the goal is to punish and make them pay for the right. At least that's what they think they're doing

 

[Weezer]

I thought the left was all for rich corporations paying higher taxes anyway?

 

[utvolpj]

How are they being targeted? It was explained to me that the citizens of the 2 counties are going to eat this sandwich.

What is Disney going to suffer here?

Just because it wasn't well thought out doesn't mean the goal is irrelevant

 

[GAVol]

It is designed to be punitive measure.

Disney's silence has me wondering if they've "fallen in the briar patch."

I promise, I'm really not trying to argue for the sake of arguing here. How can it be punitive when the net result is that Disney gets taxed like everyone else?

 

[VolStrom]

You posed an unanswerable question because of your ignorance and then you blame me. Sure, sounds reasonable.

And bravo for the use of the phrase "suck royally." Although your parents might send you off to bed early for that potty mouth.

I transposed suck and royally, my mistake.

 

[volbound1700]

All the Republicans in this thread are supporting DeSantis punishing a single political opponent via legislative act?

That is perhaps the most unamerican thing I have heard any of you support. Please defend that position.

Homosexuality was outlawed from 1776-1993 so you do have that.

 

[allvol123]

Just because it wasn't well thought out doesn't mean the goal is irrelevant

Ok.

Just making sure I understand. Disney isn’t going to suffer but is being targeted?

 

[Lawrence Wright]

How are they being targeted? It was explained to me that the citizens of the 2 counties are going to eat this sandwich.

What is Disney going to suffer here?

I figured local taxpayers taking on an additional $1.2B would be enough for fiscal conservatives like myself to oppose this legislation.

Guess I was wrong.

 

[RockyTop85]

As usual, you resort to lawyer, look it up yourself verbiage. Don't assert something unless you can prove your point. I can't stand it when people say something and when asked about it, they say, look it up yourself. You must suck royally as a lawyer, if you even are.

Nobody cares what you can’t stand.

You don’t know what the parental rights bill says, you don’t know what Disney said, you don’t seem to know anything relevant about Florida, or taxes, or the first amendment. You’re clueless as to every subject that’s material to this subject.

And your vacuous commentary gives no indication that the juice of your opinion would be worth the tremendous squeeze of bringing you, kicking and screaming, up to speed on the wide range of subjects about which you’re absolutely clueless.

 

[utvolpj]

Ok.

Just making sure I understand. Disney isn’t going to suffer but is being targeted?

Unlikely they will suffer but the goal was to hit them. They missed and hit a few voters instead

 

[allvol123]

I figured taxpayers taking on an additional $1.2B would be enough for fiscal conservatives like myself to oppose this legislation.

Guess I was wrong.

I’m just curious. Disney has been attacked. I just want to know what did they suffer?

 

[volbound1700]

I thought the left was all for rich corporations paying higher taxes anyway?

It is a big difference between what they say to win elections and what they actually do.

 

[allvol123]

Unlikely they will suffer but the goal was to hit them. They missed and hit a few voters instead

So is Desantis confident he can still win Florida in a national election or he miscalculated on this deal?

 

[utvolpj]

I thought the left was all for rich corporations paying higher taxes anyway?

I thought the right was a champion of free speech and small govt

 

[Caculator]

I figured taxpayers taking on an additional $1.2B would be enough for fiscal conservatives like myself to oppose this legislation.

Guess I was wrong.

$1.2B won't buy kids that won't be sold out