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#876
#876
Got in a Saturday round with my 4 yr old. Started off real good (me), and ended up bagging groceries. I think the fact that they changed the rules on state park courses to charging green fee and rider fee for any age got to me as I brewed over it. Come-on, $20 for a 4 year old. No one charges me for him. I got the green fee removed, but still got bumped $8 rider fee. Guess it's back to the old Hartwell course at $27 prime time on week-ends. Not paying $75 for me and a 4 year old, when mine was only $45. Cleaned the driver up pretty good, but started losing right late in the round. I was on course for a low 80, and ended up 88. Positive side is I did get some of tempo back to where it was before I lost my tee box.
 
#878
#878
GAVol said:
Is that Arrowhead Point you are talking about?
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Actually, Highland Walk. They're both state park courses, so same rule would apply on new charges as of 7/1/07, inlcuding adding tax to the green fees. Arrowhead Pointe is over in Elberton and Richard B. Russell. I think you said you've played it. Alot of locals prefer it to Cateechee for $30 less. It is very comparable challenge wise and in its detail. Highland Walk is over in Royston at Victoria Bryant. Try it if you haven't played it. Also very nice, but a notch below Cateechee and Arrowhead Pointe. Coming in from Athens on 29 into Franklin Springs, turn left on 327 at the Veterinarian just past the flea market in hte curve. Also in hte area if you haven't played it is Hard Labor Creek state park course down around Athens somewhere. I haven't had hte pleasure, but it is supposed to be one of the better ones. Down south, Little Ocmulgee in McRae, and Veterens in Coredelle, are also nice. Veterens is better. Georgia state park courses a great find. And at $45 on prime time hours, a real bargain as most are very nice courses.
 
#879
#879
GVF said:
Actually, Highland Walk. They're both state park courses, so same rule would apply on new charges as of 7/1/07, inlcuding adding tax to the green fees. Arrowhead Pointe is over in Elberton and Richard B. Russell. I think you said you've played it. Alot of locals prefer it to Cateechee for $30 less. It is very comparable challenge wise and in its detail. Highland Walk is over in Royston at Victoria Bryant. Try it if you haven't played it. Also very nice, but a notch below Cateechee and Arrowhead Pointe. Coming in from Athens on 29 into Franklin Springs, turn left on 327 at the Veterinarian just past the flea market in hte curve. Also in hte area if you haven't played it is Hard Labor Creek state park course down around Athens somewhere. I haven't had hte pleasure, but it is supposed to be one of the better ones. Down south, Little Ocmulgee in McRae, and Veterens in Coredelle, are also nice. Veterens is better. Georgia state park courses a great find. And at $45 on prime time hours, a real bargain as most are very nice courses.
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I can't belive it, directions from Georgia, that don't include one reference too a road named Peachtree, or turn at the waffle house.

Good Job,
GVF
 
#880
#880
Well, I played good on the front, bad on the back. I think I discovered a couple of things, though:

1. My putting really is affected by a couple of beers. I stood on the 15th green and realized I was not longer able to put it anywhere close to where I wanted to. Anybody who read about this "strength" in the other thread feel free to giggle and point.

2. I got tired. That's not really that surprising considering that the round makes just over 54 holes I've played this year, and after a storm blew through we were playing in a sauna. By the middle of the back my swing was getting loose and lazy.

Luckily, both problems are easily addressed. For the record, I went out in 41 and came back in 48, including an ugly 9 on the par 4 12th:yuck:
 
#882
#882
I am envious of you guys. It is terrible that Coastal Ga doesn't have more to offer, though it is probably due to the proximity of HH.

Other than Sea Island, the only course worth playing is Sapelo. I play it because Speeds Kitchen located just off of the course.
 
#883
#883
The courses down at Jekyll are OK.

Hampton Club over at St. Simons is a good one too.
 
#884
#884
GAVol said:
The courses down at Jekyll are OK.

Hampton Club over at St. Simons is a good one too.
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Jekyll was never that impressive to me. Granted it has been years since I played over there. I have never played at Hampton. Is that the course across from the horse stables?
 
#885
#885
GAVol said:
I've played that one 4 or 5 times. I'd put it in the good but not great category.
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I'd agree. Good, but a notch below. Strange greens. I swear about 6 of them break against the contour.
 
#886
#886
vol_in_ar said:
I can't belive it, directions from Georgia, that don't include one reference too a road named Peachtree, or turn at the waffle house.

Good Job,
GVF
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Well, I could have. We have a Peachtree St. in Hartwell down in the hood. It's gravel at hte end of another road and is only about 50 yards long. A failing tribute to the insanity of ATL.
 
#887
#887
Lexvol said:
Jekyll was never that impressive to me. Granted it has been years since I played over there. I have never played at Hampton. Is that the course across from the horse stables?
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Honestly, I can't remember horse stables. It's way out on the north end of the island past Christ Church. If you're coming onto the island, as soon as you cross the bridge you take a left and go several miles. The back 9 is unique because there's about a 4 or 5 hole stretch that turns into target golf out in the marsh going from one landing area to the next. The negative to that course is that it runs alongside and out into the marsh, so the insects are HUGE and sometimes you feel like you need a blood transfusion at the turn.
 
#888
#888
cotton said:
Well, I played good on the front, bad on the back. I think I discovered a couple of things, though:

1. My putting really is affected by a couple of beers. I stood on the 15th green and realized I was not longer able to put it anywhere close to where I wanted to. Anybody who read about this "strength" in the other thread feel free to giggle and point.

2. I got tired. That's not really that surprising considering that the round makes just over 54 holes I've played this year, and after a storm blew through we were playing in a sauna. By the middle of the back my swing was getting loose and lazy.

Luckily, both problems are easily addressed. For the record, I went out in 41 and came back in 48, including an ugly 9 on the par 4 12th:yuck:
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Honestly, anyone breaking 90 with any regularity is actually a pretty good golfer. I'd have to really research to dig up the stats, but I've always heard that only 10% of all amateur golfers shoot sub-90, so while I'm not a scratch golfer or better, I'm in the top 10%
 
#889
#889
Lexvol said:
Jekyll was never that impressive to me. Granted it has been years since I played over there. I have never played at Hampton. Is that the course across from the horse stables?
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My brother-in-law used to play Jekyll alot. He liked it, but I have no play time down their.

Coastal GA does not offer the economic development for such recreation as the strip from HH to Myrtle where good to excellent courses abound. Lots of private/protected lands and marshes.

However, one I've not seen mentioned is Osprey Cove at St. Mary's, GA. This is a really nice course. Hard bermuda greens. Anything off the fairway is in dense yukka plant woods. Take alot of balls if you think your game is off. Any errant shot is virtually un-retrievable. Worth the trip to play if your in the area.
 
#890
#890
GVF said:
Honestly, anyone breaking 90 with any regularity is actually a pretty good golfer. I'd have to really research to dig up the stats, but I've always heard that only 10% of all amateur golfers shoot sub-90, so while I'm not a scratch golfer or better, I'm in the top 10%
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While I certainly appreciate the encouragement, and I don't doubt that is true, it is frustrating to blow up what I would consider a pretty good round twice in a row.

I'm not all that bent out of shape, though; I really haven't been able to play since last September, and there has been enough good to make me want to work on the game rather than throw my clubs in the pond and take up bowling.

Maybe I should just play the front twice:question:
 
#891
#891
cotton said:
While I certainly appreciate the encouragement, and I don't doubt that is true, it is frustrating to blow up what I would consider a pretty good round twice in a row.

I'm not all that bent out of shape, though; I really haven't been able to play since last September, and there has been enough good to make me want to work on the game rather than throw my clubs in the pond and take up bowling.

Maybe I should just play the front twice:question:
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If you really watch your fellow journeymen on the course, that stat is not that far fetched. It may have even included "all Golfers", not just all ammys. I saw alot going on around me Saturday as I blew a round into an 88, that convinces me there is merit to that stat. If you are very strict on yourself and play a straight up round as the rules state, how many extra strokes would you have to add. That would vault most of us into the other 90%. When I was a registered 11 handicap at a very tough course with a higher than normal rating, we played straight golf. No nothing. There was lots of money on the table. It was rule book golf. One ball off the first tee. No mulligans. down and dirty in the rough. Down and dirty in hte fairways unless conditions were such that all agreed to a lift, clean, and replace. TV rules we had. If you force yourself to play rounds like that for a while, the stat has merit.
 
#892
#892
GVF said:
If you are very strict on yourself and play a straight up round as the rules state, how many extra strokes would you have to add.
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Just having to hole out everything is probably worth 2 strokes a round not to mention mulligans, illegal drops etc. I'd be willing to bet that the average golfer would be 5-7 shots worse if they played by the rules.
 
#893
#893
Don't forget having to play OB, unplayables, lost balls, and hazards correctly. How many golfers do you see go back to the tee-box after hitting one just outside the white line?

We play it down and follow the OB, etc. rules as written. If nobody has had time to warm up, we allow 2 off of one, and putts inside the leather are generally good, although this depends on the group.

Quick rules question that occurred during my round yesterday (not to me: )

A ball is hit into a greenside bunker that has standing water in it. There is no relief from the water that is no closer to the hole inside the bunker. Aside from playing from the soup, does a player have any option?
 
#894
#894
cotton said:
A ball is hit into a greenside bunker that has standing water in it. There is no relief from the water that is no closer to the hole inside the bunker. Aside from playing from the soup, does a player have any option?
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Yeah he's got an option to drop outside the bunker, but he would incur a 1 shot penalty. You can take free relief within a partially covered bunker, but once you leave the bunker for relief, it's basically the same as declaring an unplayable lie.

I would think however that if drainage is so bad that a bunker is fully covered by casual water, a local rule would be put in place allowing a free drop. If it's me and a guy I'm playing in a casual round is in that situation I say to heck with the rulebook and would give him a free drop.
 
#895
#895
GAVol said:
It sounds crazy, but I think if the bunker is partially covered you take nearest point of relief within the bunker. By the letter of the law I think if the bunker is fully covered you incur a 1 shot penalty in dropping outside the bunker. I would think however that if drainage is so bad that a bunker is fully covered by casual water, a local rule would be put in place allowing a free drop.
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There was no relief inside the bunker that wasn't closer to the hole, and I'm pretty sure anything dropped in front of the water would have rolled back in. We "invented" the local rule of which you speak, but it doesn't seem right to give a player who hit it in the sand a shot from the grass, either.

It didn't really matter, but was a point of curiosity anyway.
 
#896
#896
cotton said:
We "invented" the local rule of which you speak, but it doesn't seem right to give a player who hit it in the sand a shot from the grass, either.
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Depends on the lie how fair or unfair it is. Personally, I'd take a flat lie in the bunker every single time.
 
#897
#897
GAVol said:
Depends on the lie how fair or unfair it is. Personally, I'd take a flat lie in the bunker every single time.
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Thanks to the weather, we don't have a lot of rough this year, so there aren't that many bad lies. Playing from outside the trap was definitely an advantage in this case.

Speaking of bunkers, I saw a skit starring Jean Van de Veld last night on the golf channel where he takes Curtis Strange's words to heart and tries to make a 6 at Carnoustie's 18th using only his putter. It was one of the funniest things I have seen on TV in a long time.
 
#899
#899
Van de Velde catches a lot of heat for that performance on 18 at Carnoustie, but for all his bad judgement, the bounce he got off the grandstand on his 2nd shot was one of the worst breaks I've ever seen.
 
#900
#900
He really seems like a nice guy, too.

I just watched that video again. It still cracks me up.
 
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