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#926
#926
Fine Vol said:
Best advice for any golfer.......dont take your eye off the ball til you have made contact with it. Simple but effective.
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That's slightly overblown. The key is to keep your body down, not necessarily your eyes. Most people that "look up" actually stand up or raise up which kills your alignment and effectively re-centers our swing which is death. I have never in my entire life seen my club impact a golf ball? I blink every single time and don't pick up the ball until it's 20 or 30 feet away from my after impact.
 
#929
#929
I think the best advice is don't overswing. Most golfers have no clue how to generate power and nothing creates more swing faults than trying to hit the ball too hard.
 
#930
#930
GAVol said:
I think the best advice is don't overswing. Most golfers have no clue how to generate power and nothing creates more swing faults than trying to hit the ball too hard.
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Very true, your first instinct is to see how hard and far you can hit it.
 
#931
#931
GAVol said:
I think you've got a severe case of overanalysis going on.
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You are probably correct. That is why I think I need a tune up from my pro.

GAVol said:
It's impossible to diagnose without seeing it, but you are describing a couple of different shots that indicate a very erratic swing path or possibly that you are moving laterally. The same swing should not be producing push slices and pull hooks.

I'd forget about manipulating your swing plane.
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What I'm trying to describe--and it is a guess, albeit a semi-educated one--is dropping my hands and the clubheadd at the top in a misguided effort to shallow the swing. The result is a swing that is trapped inside, resulting in a push-slice. After a few of these, the tendency is to get quick with the arms and hands to compensate, close the face, and rotate rather than swing through, causing the pull.

It may be overanalysis, but our conclusions are the same--quit trying to adjust the swing for the driver, and go get a lesson.
 
#933
#933
I'm playing in a scramble tournament Sunday morning. Playing at TPC-Sawgrass. Already planning how to block the water out of my head on 17.
 
#934
#934
lawgator1 said:
I'm playing in a scramble tournament Sunday morning. Playing at TPC-Sawgrass. Already planning how to block the water out of my head on 17.
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Have you ever played there before? The thing that blew my mind when I stepped on that tee was despite all the balls you see going into the water, how relatively large the green is and how short the shot is.
 
#935
#935
GAVol said:
Have you ever played there before? The thing that blew my mind when I stepped on that tee was despite all the balls you see going into the water, how relatively large the green is and how short the shot is.
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forget 17. the rest of the course is brutal from anywhere near the back tees. 17 is a wedge to smooth 9 at a large green, although there are some ugly putts on that thing.

18 is a phenomenal hole and dramatically more difficult.
 
#936
#936
I did play it once, about five years ago. The thing that struck me the most was that it was in just terrible condition. I've played any number of municipal courses that were much better maintained.

We were team 17B that year, I remember. So, we got to start our round there. We par'd it, no thanks to yours truly.
 
#937
#937
BigPapaVol said:
forget 17. the rest of the course is brutal from anywhere near the back tees. 17 is a wedge to smooth 9 at a large green, although there are some ugly putts on that thing.

18 is a phenomenal hole and dramatically more difficult.
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The tee shot on 18 is completely intimidating with that huge lake running up the left side. When I played it, I hit one in the middle of the fairway and then hit it short right into those moguls in the rough and made a sick up and down with the ball in a weird hanging lie. I can't even remember what I shot, but I managed to par 16, 17 and 18 from the tips, so the round was a success.

The other thing about TPC Sawgrass is the way Pete Dye has all those fairways sloping into waste areas which slope into hazards. It's flat out diabolical in some spots.
 
#938
#938
lawgator1 said:
I did play it once, about five years ago. The thing that struck me the most was that it was in just terrible condition. I've played any number of municipal courses that were much better maintained.
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Now that I think about it, my Dad was down there a few weeks ago and when he tried to get a tee time at the Stadium Course, the pro advised him that it would be better to play the Valley because of course conditions. I think they were doing some sort of renovations.
 
#939
#939
GAVol said:
Now that I think about it, my Dad was down there a few weeks ago and when he tried to get a tee time at the Stadium Course, the pro advised him that it would be better to play the Valley because of course conditions. I think they were doing some sort of renovations.
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Really? Well, maybe we will end up in the other course, then. Makes no never mind to me. Its a conference. Business thing. The tournament has no prizes or anything.
 
#940
#940
lawgator1 said:
I did play it once, about five years ago. The thing that struck me the most was that it was in just terrible condition. I've played any number of municipal courses that were much better maintained.

We were team 17B that year, I remember. So, we got to start our round there. We par'd it, no thanks to yours truly.
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gotta play it in the spring, near the Players. Then, it's phenomenal. Absurd in spots, but very nice.
 
#941
#941
BigPapaVol said:
gotta play it in the spring, near the Players. Then, it's phenomenal. Absurd in spots, but very nice.
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They'd never let a hacker like me near the place two weeks before the tournament and my guess is that its a million dollars to play there the week after.
 
#942
#942
lawgator1 said:
They'd never let a hacker like me near the place two weeks before the tournament and my guess is that its a million dollars to play there the week after.
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I don't know how it works there, but I played Cog Hill the week after the Western Open about two years ago and greens fees were normal for high season. The set-up was brutal, as they left it in PGA condition; thank God it was drizzling rain.

GAVol said:
Now that I think about it, my Dad was down there a few weeks ago and when he tried to get a tee time at the Stadium Course, the pro advised him that it would be better to play the Valley because of course conditions. I think they were doing some sort of renovations.
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When do they punch greens and fairways in Florida? It is a shame if they let that course deteriorate for any reason other than aeration.
 
#943
#943
GAVol said:
I think the best advice is don't overswing. Most golfers have no clue how to generate power and nothing creates more swing faults than trying to hit the ball too hard.
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I have one swing thought at address...

I absolutely want to hit it has hard as possible.


Not really, you and BPV have hit on the keys..
grip, adress and tempo

Then for me, not over extending my backswing with my driver. I have a very consistent swing with my irons, but I'm constaantly fighting overswing with my driver.
 
#944
#944
cotton said:
When do they punch greens and fairways in Florida? It is a shame if they let that course deteriorate for any reason other than aeration.
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Here in GA and over on the coast they just punched the greens about 2-3 weeks ago, so I'm sure it's the same if not a little earlier in Florida.
 
#945
#945
vol_in_ar said:
I have a very consistent swing with my irons, but I'm constaantly fighting overswing with my driver.
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Same goes for me. I've got one speed that works with my driver and "going after it" doesn't really do anything for me yardage wise.
 
#946
#946
GAVol said:
Same goes for me. I've got one speed that works with my driver and "going after it" doesn't really do anything for me yardage wise.
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It is amazing how that works. Going to a few pro events will help people understand that.

Speaking of which, anybody coming to KY for the Ryder Cup. I am starting to work on my tickets, and exit strategy now.
 
#947
#947
GAVol said:
Same goes for me. I've got one speed that works with my driver and "going after it" doesn't really do anything for me yardage wise.
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One day I'll learn that. It's amazing how little of a difference it makes even when you do hit it on the screws while swinging it 180 mph.
 
#948
#948
Lexvol said:
It is amazing how that works. Going to a few pro events will help people understand that.

Speaking of which, anybody coming to KY for the Ryder Cup. I am starting to work on my tickets, and exit strategy now.
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I'm thinking of coming up, but I don't have a real plan yet. Funny thing is, the girlfriend volunteered the last time the PGA was at Valhalla as part of the Pepsi Jr. Golf deal (she held Frank Nobilo's sign.) She obviously got on some list, and she was asked to volunteer again--at the low, low price of $250. I've never heard of someone having to pay to volunteer before, but I think if we can get it worked out, we will be paying spectators, not paying volunteers.
 
#950
#950
cotton said:
I'm thinking of coming up, but I don't have a real plan yet. Funny thing is, the girlfriend volunteered the last time the PGA was at Valhalla as part of the Pepsi Jr. Golf deal (she held Frank Nobilo's sign.) She obviously got on some list, and she was asked to volunteer again--at the low, low price of $250. I've never heard of someone having to pay to volunteer before, but I think if we can get it worked out, we will be paying spectators, not paying volunteers.
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I am just sniffing down the ticket trail. Let me know if you come up with anything. I have some connection to Brown Foreman, right now that is looking like my best shot.
 
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