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That would have been easy without all the mess. Let them go play, but institute a minimum number of PGA tour events to remain eligible. They can pre-declare each season which events they will use for their eligibility, and hte rest is whatever they want to do, whether they just vacay, or go play LIV, or non-US PGA events can count toward the minimum. If something happens such as illness or injury, they can ask for an exemption, or substitute another event.
I'm not sure that would have stopped the defections. The entire point of LIV is to play less golf and make more money. The only events the LIV guys want to continue to be able to play in are the majors, and for now they still can. The only move the PGA Tour had was to pressure the USGA, R&A, PGA of America, and ANGC to ban LIV guys, and there's just no reason for them to do that.
 
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I’ve never seen NCAA golf before. Decided to check it out on The Golf Channel the last few days. It’s excruciatingly slow. The time between shots is very long. Intolerable to watch. I switched back to watching season 2 of Perry Mason.
 
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I think there was a panic moment initially, and probably justifiably so, that there would be mass defections from the Tour. I still think LIV might pose a threat to the Tour by poaching good amateur players. The PGA Tour does not control any of the majors, even the PGA Championship. I play golf and am a fan of the sport, but even I only pay attention to the majors, the Ryder Cup every other year, and (kind of) a few other events. The Tour only controls those "few other events" that most people pay attention to.

Outside of The Players, The Tour Championship, and maybe a couple other events, there honestly isn't that much difference in the quality of competition between the PGA Tour and LIV.
There certainly is a huge difference in the quality of competition between the 2 tours
 
Not outside of a handful of events a year. It's the single biggest reason why the Tour is petrified of LIV. The Tour does not control any of the events that people actually watch.
We'll disagree then. There's a huge difference in every full field PGA tour event and any LIV event, ESPECIALLY SO in the quality of competition. For no other reason than the size of the field and the number of holes they play. Never mind the fact there are only a handful of players on the LIV tour that could win on the PGA tour. That's not the fear of the PGA tour anyway. It's the fact there is less pressure and easier to play and huge guaranteed money to their best players.

I'm a big fan of Koepka, DJ and Cam Smith. None of those guys bad mouthed the PGA tour when they chose to switch. They were all honest about their own reasons for going to LIV. When Koepka is healthy, like he is now, he's the best player on the planet.
 
We'll disagree then. There's a huge difference in every full field PGA tour event and any LIV event, ESPECIALLY SO in the quality of competition. For no other reason than the size of the field and the number of holes they play. Never mind the fact there are only a handful of players on the LIV tour that could win on the PGA tour. That's not the fear of the PGA tour anyway. It's the fact there is less pressure and easier to play and huge guaranteed money to their best players.
Correct on all counts.
 


Can't wait to see the outrage of some with this lol.

All the crying about dirty Saudi money makes this a horrible look for the PGA
 
The timing of this is shocking. If you told me they'd merge 5 years from now, after having taken incremental steps to integrate, I'd totally believe that. But I'm surprised it happened so quickly.

And yes, it's a horrible look for people associated with the Tour who took the "it's dirty money" angle, chief among them Monahan, the Commissioner.
 
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The timing of this is shocking. If you told me they'd merge 5 years from now, after having taken incremental steps to integrate, I'd totally believe that. But I'm surprised it happened so quickly.

And yes, it's a horrible look for people associated with the Tour who took the "it's dirty money" angle, chief among them Monahan, the Commissioner.


I'm not surprised. From all accounts the business people were never the problem, it was the personalities of such jackarses as Phil Michelchoke and Greg Jerkface Norman.
 
It will be interesting to hear what the players that have stood tall in support of the PGA Tour has to say.
If their reason for opposing LIV was because of “Saudi blood money” then they all have to retire immediately or be hypocrites. All of professional golf is now in bed with SA
 
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All those PGA golfers who turned down obscene amounts of money from LIV have to be kicking themselves today.

I bet Billy Horschel is. Of course the pga tour needs someone to fund all these restricted events they added. You have their poster boy Rory skipping them. Then you have LIV guys contending and winning majors. Who knows if other guys were about to jump ship?
 
I wonder if Rory got wind this was coming and that's why he's been silent about the PGA-LIV fight for the past couple months. Remember seeing an article about his going quiet on LIV last month and it seemed odd.
 
I wonder if Rory got wind this was coming and that's why he's been silent about the PGA-LIV fight for the past couple months. Remember seeing an article about his going quiet on LIV last month and it seemed odd.

Exactly what I was thinking; this would explain why he suddenly clamed up the past few months.
 

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