The GOP and Minority Rule

[Rasputin_Vol]

How malleable are the minds and emotions of Trumpers if a few BLM/Antifa activists can rile them up enough to storm the Capital.

Meh, give them a mulligan. On the other side of the fence, you had Democratic politicians fanning flames every since George Floyd's murder last summer.

Lets not make one event to be bigger than an entire summer of rioting across several cities.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I get it, it's not your fault, but always the black person's.

Have you seen the people that make up BLM? Its a bunch of white kids in those groups.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Representative republic, not a democracy.

Weeeelll, a form of Democracy but not just a Democracy.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Have you seen the people that make up BLM? Its a bunch of white kids in those groups.

You’re just showing off your white privilege

 

[Wireless1]

So is this a problem or not?

"Despite Democrats’ Georgia wins, the GOP’s structural advantage in the Senate is only growing, given its dominance in small rural states. The level of inequality in the Senate today would have shocked the likes of James Madison. In 1790, the country’s most populous state, Virginia, had 12 times as many people as its least populous, Delaware. Today, California has 68 times the population of Wyoming. Fifteen small states with 38 million people combined routinely elect 30 GOP senators; California, with 40 million residents, is represented by two Democrats. This imbalance is getting worse: By 2040, roughly 70 percent of Americans will live in 15 states with 30 senators, while the other 30 percent, who are whiter, older, and more rural than the country as a whole, will elect 70 senators."

You can either say yes or no. If you say yes, then you should believe in senate reform to make it more proportional to population. However, like other Republicans, I'm guessing you would say no. If that's the case, then you have no real principled argument against DC and PR statehood. You have a political argument, but not one based on principle.

If Dems are dealing with purely political actors who refuse to act on principles, then Dems need to play by those rules and "even up the playing field" by bringing in DC and PR.

If structural features of the senate favor Republicans--and Republicans refuse to alter those structural features--Dems should be able to use those same structural features to obtain a more democratic result.

The problem is that the federal government and a few states want to shove things down the individual states throats. You know originally we were a federation of states..... that states rights thing and all
What do you think will happen if a few of those less populous states decide to not export things like grain and potato’s to some of the more populous states or New Hampshire decides to not export power

 

[85SugarVol]

One of the best analyses I've read concerning the structural problems with American democracy. We're not on a good path if the GOP continues their anti-democratic ways.
The insurrection was put down. The GOP plan for minority rule marches on.

Let me guess... they hate the Senate?

 

[Tyler Durden]

Have you seen the people that make up BLM? Its a bunch of white kids in those groups.

Lol, you and @Orangeslice13 like to carry the same water for the same people don't you

 

[LouderVol]

One of the best analyses I've read concerning the structural problems with American democracy. We're not on a good path if the GOP continues their anti-democratic ways.
The insurrection was put down. The GOP plan for minority rule marches on.

single party rule.

 

[evillawyer]

The GOP Cheat Code to Winning Back the House

 

[Orangeslice13]

Lol, you and @Orangeslice13 like to carry the same water for the same people don't you

Lol
So you think the Jew is a Nazi and the Black Guy has white privilege. I’m sure there’s a word for you. Something beyond stupid

 

[Orangeslice13]

Or Ty is mad because the Jew and the Black Guy aren’t thinking the way we’re supposed to

 

[Carl Pickens]

The GOP Cheat Code to Winning Back the House

What a pile of liberal S...

 

[loggervol]

Or Ty is mad because the Jew and the Black Guy aren’t thinking the way we’re supposed to

Living in a box, living in a political box

 

[Orangeslice13]

The GOP Cheat Code to Winning Back the House

Isn’t it racist to assume that people are going to think and vote a certain way based on skin color?

 

[NorthDallas40]

The GOP Cheat Code to Winning Back the House

Remind how much money the idiot libs spent trying to flip state houses? Why where they doing that? They even engaged those daunted political warriors the Lincoln Project. How many did they actually win?

Here’s something you should recognize

 

[Septic]

It wasn't an insurrection. It was mainly a peaceful & patriotic protest by Trump supporters voicing their displeasure w/the government. Most Trump supporters would never act out to destroy gov. buildings like Antifa/BLM.
Antifa & BLM members infiltrated "some groups" that caused a mob scene in trying to cause chaos inside the Capitol building. It was democratic lunatics that the left-wing Democrats back & support to burn it all down making it look like the supporters of President Trump the guilty ones on that terrible day....

You're delusional.

 

[Septic]

It’s obvious that if frogs had wings they would not bump their ass when they jump.

He's right, not a single shred of evidence has been posted in a courtroom regarding widespread fraud.

None.

If there were anything other than anecdotal twitter "evidence", we'd all know about it and Carlson would be in Hannitys lap every night screeching about it. Instead, theyre all ducking law suits from Dominion. Conversely, Trump himself is exhibit A in attempting to subvert the law to change the election - his whole schtick has always been to accuse those of which you are guilty. He planted the seed of 'rigged' long before the first vote was cast. He nurtured it, cared for it and groomed it into an angry mob looking to hang Pence.

 

[Orangeslice13]

He's right, not a single shred of evidence has been posted in a courtroom regarding widespread fraud.

None.

If there were anything other than anecdotal twitter "evidence", we'd all know about it and Carlson would be in Hannitys lap every night screeching about it. Instead, theyre all ducking law suits from Dominion. Conversely, Trump himself is exhibit A in attempting to subvert the law to change the election - his whole schtick has always been to accuse those of which you are guilty. He planted the seed of 'rigged' long before the first vote was cast. He nurtured it, cared for it and groomed it into an angry mob looking to hang Pence.

Try and keep up dipstick.
We’re not talking about widespread fraud.
Typical of your rants that are irrelevant to the topic being discussed. Must still be high



It’s prima facia and should have been heard.
The states in question have constitutions. Written in those constitutions are the rules for changing election procedure. You might call it law. The states did not follow their own constitution and used the SOS to change the rules. The pandemic excuse doesn’t fly as there was plenty of time to follow their constitution and change the election procedures by method described in their constitution. There is and was no exception within their constitution for not following constitution.
These are the facts that are not in dispute by anyone.

But sure turn a blind eye to it. When the other side bends you over with this new way of doing things it won’t be the first time.

 

[tnmarktx]

Read it and tell me where the analysis goes wrong

All I had to read is the title to find it false. Look up the definition of insurrection. If BLM and antifa protests that damaged local government property and injured local gov. LE officers was just a peaceful protest that turned violent. Then what happened at the Capitol was not insurrection. Yet another lie told by morally corrupted democrats.

 

[Septic]

Try and keep up dipstick.
We’re not talking about widespread fraud.
Typical of your rants that are irrelevant to the topic being discussed. Must still be high



It’s prima facia and should have been heard.
The states in question have constitutions. Written in those constitutions are the rules for changing election procedure. You might call it law. The states did not follow their own constitution and used the SOS to change the rules. The pandemic excuse doesn’t fly as there was plenty of time to follow their constitution and change the election procedures by method described in their constitution. There is and was no exception within their constitution for not following constitution.
These are the facts that are not in dispute by anyone.

But sure turn a blind eye to it. When the other side bends you over with this new way of doing things it won’t be the first time.

First, if you aren't talking about widespread fraud, why are you talking about fraud at all?

B. Far as I can tell, none of the SC's of the States you allege violated their own states constitution have found that to be the case. You wouldn't think that'd survive legal scrutiny is what, four states?

 

[Orangeslice13]

First, if you aren't talking about widespread fraud, why are you talking about fraud at all?

B. Far as I can tell, none of the SC's of the States you allege violated their own states constitution have found that to be the case. You wouldn't think that'd survive legal scrutiny is what, four states?

A -if you don’t like the topic you can **** off. But beyond that I think small problems become big problems. I don’t know if there was or wasn’t wide spread fraud. I have not seen any evidence for it but at this point there still hasn’t been any sort of real investigation into the equipment. Should there be? Probably but still not the point being made. Either the rule of law matters or it doesn’t. The states in question violated their constitution.
B- it wasn’t heard. It was ignored. It should have been heard. I don’t know what the remedy should be and I seriously doubt it would change the results of anything. But it is still important and should have been heard.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

You're delusional.

Speaking Truth = delusional. That's fine by me.

 

[luthervol]

Try and keep up dipstick.
We’re not talking about widespread fraud.
Typical of your rants that are irrelevant to the topic being discussed. Must still be high



It’s prima facia and should have been heard.
The states in question have constitutions. Written in those constitutions are the rules for changing election procedure. You might call it law. The states did not follow their own constitution and used the SOS to change the rules. The pandemic excuse doesn’t fly as there was plenty of time to follow their constitution and change the election procedures by method described in their constitution. There is and was no exception within their constitution for not following constitution.
These are the facts that are not in dispute by anyone.

But sure turn a blind eye to it. When the other side bends you over with this new way of doing things it won’t be the first time.

So the justices sworn to protect and defend their constitution refused to do so? lol.....

The pandemic necessitated swift actions to insure that people could reasonably exercise their right to vote.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The pandemic necessitated swift actions to insure that people could reasonably exercise their right to vote.

False. There was plenty of time to move through the legislature as their constitution prescribed but they went around that. An argument could be made that they knew they could not pass it so they subverted their own constitution and got away with it

 

[luthervol]

False. There was plenty of time to move through the legislature as their constitution prescribed but they went around that. An argument could be made that they knew they could not pass it so they subverted their own constitution and got away with it

Not true. There was not time. Everyone was dealing with a complete unknown. Unprecedented times. Protecting the right to vote was of paramount importance.