The Impeachment Thread

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volfanhill said:
I agree they could have an should have. But are you more interested in “winning” a political situation or knowing the truth? Seems to me we should all want witnesses. But its suspect, bc of how you react to everything, all you care about is your guy winning. Truth be damned
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The house can always go for another impeachment and try to get the process right; but as for this time, they had their chance, tried to take shortcuts, and their flawed process has to have consequences. These are supposedly responsible adults ... no reason we should treat them as kids with training wheels. Remember they write the laws that we are forced to live by; I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I've never claimed billionaires were evil nor have I spoken out against them. You guys are confused and I see your need to label. I've been a Republican all my life but have voted across the aisle on occasion. At this point, I'm more independent. None of the candidates I mentioned are progressive. Just because Pete's gay doesn't make him progressive. He's a moderate as is Bloomberg and Biden. Sorry, but you haven't got a clue. Just know that I don't support the President. Plenty of Republicans and conservatives don't support him. Well, the more honorable and patriotic anyway
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To steal from my friend Luther, there is a continuum. Moderate to Rose Level: Delaney-Deval-Bloomberg-Steyer-Biden-Klobuchar-Pete-Yang-Tulsi-Warren-Bernie
 
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Weezer said:
I don't believe the Trump children should have any official capacity within the administration regardless of if they receive a salary. Just as a believe Biden's son shouldn't have been given a job in a foreign country he wasn't remotely qualified for. Both are wrong IMO.
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Its not the best look...Bobby was pretty much the chief advisor and LBJ was ignored for the last part of JFK's administration
 
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And remember the WH Counsel's Office--which includes Cippollone--knew this was false. But I know, I know, Schiff quoted a CBS report that said Trump said mean things and that is simply unforgivable.

 
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evillawyer said:
Well, well, well. Seems like Trump thinks we have a question of fact. You know what helps resolves questions of fact? Testimony and documentary evidence. Thanks for making our case!

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Maybe the house should have taken a full vote from the onset so they would have subpoena power? It's not the Senate's job to investigate for the House...they rushed thru to give a Christmas present to their lunatic fringe and it ended up biting them in the azz..now everyone is tired of it dragging on and want their afternoon soaps back
 
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I can't believe we have tied up so much time and money into something that's not even a crime.
1) Congress allocated "an amount not to exceed 200 million" So any amount from 0-200
2) It had to be released before 9/30 (it was)
The only people who arguably would have an issue are the Ukrainians and they have said multiple times that
1) They weren't aware until the Politico story
2) Felt no pressure
No amount of investigation or witnesses changes those facts.
It's like the Washington Redskin name controversy on steroids...9/10 Native Americans have no issue with it, it's only white liberals who took up the cause because I guess NA's aren't intelligent enough to be offended on their own. 🙄 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...9-8949-5f36ff92706e_story.html?outputType=amp
 
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VolnJC said:
Its not the best look...Bobby was pretty much the chief advisor and LBJ was ignored for the last part of JFK's administration
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Bobby, at least, faced Senate confirmation, did he not? None of Trump's kids have had to undergo that scrutiny. So comparing them to RFK is a horrible comparison. The situations are far different.
 
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All of this is over CrowdStrike, and the DNC servers. I believe you find those servers, and you find your leakers, and who killed Seth Rich. Well, that’s not a hard thinking to do, we already know.
 
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Weezer said:
Neither was Biden's son, yet you're defending that.
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I don't think I ever defended Biden's son beyond saying the children of rich/famous/powerful people always get unfair advantages.
But at least Biden's son is not receiving taxpayers' dollars and making policies for our country. (and that's a big difference)
 
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vols40 said:
LMAO. Hunter received millions from a group that was shaken down by his father. While his father was vp. Exactly what you lunatics are charging the president with. Albeit with no evidence.
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So since you didn't answer, I will answer for you.
No - Biden's son is not receiving taxpayer dollars
Yes - Trump's kids are receiving taxpayer dollars.

They are all unqualified and only in the positions because of their daddy.
 
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AM64 said:
If the roof caves in on people in congress who use that position for personal advantage, then just maybe we can be on our way to having representation and no longer have lifetime politicians. Did it ever strike you as strange that congress initiated and pressed for the 22nd amendment limiting presidents to two terms, but took no similar action for themselves?
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All people have to do is not re-elect them. It seems everyone wants term limits for every congressman other than the one they keep re-electing.
 
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evillawyer said:
Well, well, well. Seems like Trump thinks we have a question of fact. You know what helps resolves questions of fact? Testimony and documentary evidence. Thanks for making our case!

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Disgruntled Bolton's book was given to one entity, NSC to clear it for sale. Coincidentally the book was then leaked to the Dem operative NYT and at the precise time to to sway the Senate to allow witnesses that Dems refused to call. This is a ZERO. Just more Demonrat theater.
 
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evillawyer said:
Well, well, well. Seems like Trump thinks we have a question of fact. You know what helps resolves questions of fact? Testimony and documentary evidence. Thanks for making our case!

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Hear hear!

In fact, Mr. Trump, please set the record straight by coming to testify before the Senate personally. Sworn deposition would work just fine too.
 
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