The Impeachment Thread

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n_huffhines said:
It's grotesque, but the ramifications for America were inconsequential. It doesn't matter to us if POTUS got a BJ. It matters to us if POTUS is strong-arming allies into helping him take down his political competition.
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In your hypothetical are we talking about allies who are on the record as denying said strong arming?
 
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AM64 said:
I'd say Trump is more honest and less foolish than Carter, far less manipulative and underhanded than FDR, and more competent than JFK. However, I'm sure the revisionist history you've read says otherwise.
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This is the dumbest thing that I have read on this site in the 6 years that I've been a member of VolNation. That is no small statement.
 
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Weezer said:
Read my previous response to Mick. It's unethical but not impeachable.

And Bill had his hands in more corruption than just Monica. Most of it got overlooked.
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What are you basing this opinion on?

I'm not arguing that Clinton was less corrupt than Trump. My position is that what Clinton was impeached for is child's play compared to these Trump allegations.
 
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Mick said:
You have said yourself you like trumps politics. You're a Trumper.
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lmao I may have said I like some of his policies, but I've never issued a blanket statement because I don't like all of his policies. I could have said the exact same of Obama. I've also said Trump is a pompous ass, and that he acted unethically. You think anyone who disagrees with you is a Trumper. That's a weak ass argument.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I disagree..... the Paris accord was a mess and we needed to get out of that....A lot of that regulation needed to be rolled back..... can you name specific examples where he hurt the environment?
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I won't disagree that some regs needed to be rolled back. That being said, he's rolled back many others that shouldn't have been touched. The most recent rollback against streams and wetlands could have dangerous consequences
 
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n_huffhines said:
Cool. That was such a great moment for America. I can't tell you how much it changed my life. Almost as much as the economic boom of the 1980's that was made possible by Carter's massive deregulation of various industries.
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LMAO. The 12% inflation and in some cases 90% tax rates? If peanut guy was so great how did he let 50 plus hostages be held for over 400 days only to be set free the day his opponent was inaugurated?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Hmmm... if you are counting on these allegations not being in Bolton's book, you are the one who is going to be disappointed. There is no way in hell that Bolton got that fat book deal, just so he could vindicate Trump.
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Fortunately, in this great Country, we have this pretty awesome document called the Constitution. And the 1st Amendment talks about a Free Press, it's great to see the NY Times doing what they do best - investigative journalism and holding the President accountable. It's un-American and backwards that we have a POTUS who constantly demonizes the Fourth Estate on a regular basis because they say mean things about him - poor guy will eventually grow a pair............probably not.
 
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Weezer said:
lmao I may have said I like some of his policies, but I've never issued a blanket statement because I don't like all of his policies. I could have said the exact same of Obama. I've also said Trump is a pompous ass, and that he acted unethically. You think anyone who disagrees with you is a Trumper. That's a weak ass argument.
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You're unrelenting defense of Trumps actions as not impeachable is the proof. It's not OK for a president to extort a foreign government to conduct fictitious political investigations.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is the dumbest thing that I have read on this site in the 6 years that I've been a member of VolNation. That is no small statement.
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Wow, you guys really were taken in by that fraud. Look up hypocrite and there will be a picture of Jimmy.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What are you basing this opinion on?

I'm not arguing that Clinton was less corrupt than Trump. My position is that what Clinton was impeached for is child's play compared to these Trump allegations.
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It doesn't fit the parameters set by the Constitution, first of all, nor does it jibe with past precedent IMO. Do you honestly think Trump is the first President to act shady? Most Presidents simply get away with it without being called for it. Trump hate has led to the Dems calling him on it. This process is purely political. Not a precedent that should be set or allowed.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Do you have any examples of him lying, though? Even his critics will admit that he was an honest and good person.
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Trump doesn't just lie all the time. He makes false claims about his policies and his meetings with foreign leaders. It's all on the record. These rubes either don't care or are too stupid to know any better
 
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Mick said:
I don't think you grasp the magnitude of this. This is not OK. This is removable conduct. Rudy should be in jail for his role in Trump's shadow government politics.
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You are a sick & a complete delusional person if you believe what you just typed here. Or, you've not heard or have been paying close attention that the overwhelming evidence that this is clearly a railroad job over policy dislikes by the loony Dems..
 
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Mick said:
It was a tongue in cheek comment. I don't have any detailed knowledge of such campaigns and if its in our national interest, I don't have a problem with it at all. Funny that some would.
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Why is it funny that some would? Do you feel that we have the right to impose our since of morality on people in other sovereign countries?
 
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I think McConnell should bring in Bolton to testify..have the heating in the basement and only release the testimony that is favorable to Trump 😁
 
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AM64 said:
Wow, you guys really were taken in by that fraud. Look up hypocrite and there will be a picture of Jimmy.
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If you are going to make claims such as this, you should provide some examples of what you are talking about. Of course, we are not going to just take your word for it. The general consensus of Carter, is that while he was not a good president, he was an honest and decent person.
 
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Weezer said:
It doesn't fit the parameters set by the Constitution, first of all, nor does it jibe with past precedent IMO. Do you honestly think Trump is the first President to act shady? Most Presidents simply get away with it without being called for it. Trump hate has led to the Dems calling him on it. This process is purely political. Not a precedent that should be set or allowed.
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The constitution is completely vague and leaves it up entirely to the discretion of congress. What are you talking about?

It doesn't matter if Trump is the first or the last...or does your made up constitution have something to say about that?
 
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