Orange_Vol1321
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Election wasn't rigged. Trump didn't get his investigation, did he? And like I said, unethical, but not to the levels of removal from office. Steele Dossier was unethical as well, but the left funded it and pranced it about. Both sides are guilty of unethical behavior. It's just sad that people like Mick can't admit to it. All because Trump hate. Hate is not a valid reason for impeachment.So the President is breaking the law for the sole purpose of rigging the election. And your solution to "fix" this is to... hold a rigged election.
*sigh*
Again. Please explain how this would change material facts uncovered after the WB reported it.
As pointed out it's not a judicial process and that is why Trump is hiding behind the Senate GOP trying to publically out the whistleblower and rejecting fact and firsthand witnesses and documents. But yes if I was a partisan bleating sheep I would be calling for the identity of the whistleblower too..
There is no such thing as undoing an election. Talk about a weak ass argument and bleating talking points.Election wasn't rigged. Trump didn't get his investigation, did he? And like I said, unethical, but not to the levels of removal from office. Steele Dossier was unethical as well, but the left funded it and pranced it about. Both sides are guilty of unethical behavior. It's just sad that people like Mick can't admit to it. All because Trump hate. Hate is not a valid reason for impeachment.
The funny thing is, the left, and they won't admit it, is trying to not only undo the last election, but rig the next election in their favor by impeaching Trump for invalid reasons. At the very least, they should have found something worthy, but I'm guessing they couldn't so they ran with this weak ass accusation.
Eh, you know what I meant. You're guided by your political leanings. You think everyone else must be as well. And while some are, not everyone is. I don't like Trump, but what the Dems are attempting to do is wrong. This isn't about what Trump tried to do. This is about the left not being able to stand Trump. And they're terrified he'll win again in 2020. What Trump tried to do was unethical, but not impeachable. And I would say the same if it were a Dem facing such nonsense. And you would too.Freudian slip?
Election wasn't rigged. Trump didn't get his investigation, did he? And like I said, unethical, but not to the levels of removal from office. Steele Dossier was unethical as well, but the left funded it and pranced it about. Both sides are guilty of unethical behavior. It's just sad that people like Mick can't admit to it. All because Trump hate. Hate is not a valid reason for impeachment.
The funny thing is, the left, and they won't admit it, is trying to not only undo the last election, but rig the next election in their favor by impeaching Trump for invalid reasons. At the very least, they should have found something worthy, but I'm guessing they couldn't so they ran with this weak ass accusation.
Trying to publically out the whistle blower is wrong. Trying to get a foreign country to investigate your political rival is wrong. Impeaching for "unethical" "corrupt" behavior is ethical and justified.Eh, you know what I meant. You're guided by your political leanings. You think everyone else must be as well. And while some are, not everyone is. I don't like Trump, but what the Dems are attempting to do is wrong. This isn't about what Trump tried to do. This is about the left not being able to stand Trump. And they're terrified he'll win again in 2020. What Trump tried to do was unethical, but not impeachable. And I would say the same if it were a Dem facing such nonsense. And you would too.
The GOP is notorious for changing the bar when it suits them. The low bar for Clinton and the unreachable bar for Trump.The impeachment will "undo the last election" argument really has no validity whatsoever. By that logic, ANY impeachment proceeding is wrong.
I subscribe to the view that if this abuse of power is not impeachable, then nothing is, really.
The net-net here when the GOP votes to support Trump is a weakening of our checks and balances. It's not a good thing.
Impeachment serves a purpose when reasons are valid. The reasoning here is not valid.The impeachment will "undo the last election" argument really has no validity whatsoever. By that logic, ANY impeachment proceeding is wrong.
I subscribe to the view that if this abuse of power is not impeachable, then nothing is, really.
The net-net here when the GOP votes to support Trump is a weakening of our checks and balances. It's not a good thing.
Again, you're suggesting I said something I didn't. I know it's hard for you, but think. I didn't say to out the WB publicly.Trying to publically out the whistle blower is wrong. Trying to get a foreign country to investigate your political rival is wrong. Impeaching for "unethical" "corrupt" behavior is ethical and justified.
Did you know, probably not, it's illegal for someone to solicit foreign election help? I would imagine it's also illegal to use a shadow government to spy on a US official. Do we have those FISA's?Again, you're suggesting I said something I didn't. I know it's hard for you, but think. I didn't say to out the WB publicly.
If we impeached every politician that did something unethical, we'd have no government. What Trump did does not rise to removal from office. Hell, stooping an intern and lying under oath about it is unethical, but you guys never clamored for Bill's removal. Not to mention it was an actual crime. How you can say that was okay, but Trump has to be removed..... It supports this is politically motivated.
Impeachment serves a purpose when reasons are valid. The reasoning here is not valid.
The same could be said of the Clinton impeachment. When the POTUS commits a crime, admits to the crime, but is allowed to stay in office, then what is impeachable?
Don't kid yourself. Checks and balances is not what is at issue. This is a Dem controlled House overstepping their bounds. If the Senate acquits Trump like expected, it's a case of the Senate checking the House for an overt political maneuver. The House didn't even bother to hold a thorough investigation. Now they're wanting the Senate to do their job for them. I'm not even sure how the sheep explain that. They'll accept it, but how do you explain it. As badly as they want Trump out of office, you'd think they'd line their ducks up in a row, which they clearly did not.