The Liberal Argument for a Higher Minimum Wage

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NEO said:
That's great.

You used a franchise that generates about 5 million a year in revenue per location or the location is closed.

Now see how the small locally owned burger joint down the street that generates 400k a year goes out of business cause it can't compete.

Do you understand margins at all?
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Why no. No she doesn’t. But I really want to be a fly in the wall when she pitches the global burger joint government mandated pay model to McDonalds, Wendy’s, and Burger King and says hey In-N-Out does it get with the program losers! She should even show the Barry socialism wealth redistribution video clip she dropped here! 🤣
 
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evillawyer said:
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Give it time.

If minimum wage is dictated past what the market will bear for low skilled workers, look for automation and or less people doing way more work.

The $15++ minimum wage will be terrible for businesses that rely on low skilled workers that already have thin margins.
 
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Septic said:
Give it time.

If minimum wage is dictated past what the market will bear for low skilled wages, look for automation and or less people doing way more work.

The $15++ minimum wage will be terrible for businesses that rely on low skilled workers that already have thin margins.
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Congrats on figuring out the In-N-Out model. Their revenue per store is mind boggling and their stores seem packed with employees when you’re there but the revenue per employee is amazing. And they hump it those kids earn their money.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Congrats on figuring out the In-N-Out model. Their revenue per store is mind boggling and their stores seem packed with employees when you’re there but the revenue per employee is amazing. And they hump it those kids earn their money.
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Never been in one, I hear their burgers are good.
 
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Septic said:
Never been in one, I hear their burgers are good.
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They are good but they aren’t worthy of the cult following they get. And a lot of people really hate their fries. It’s all driven by the unpublished menu. You won’t see my “double double animal style, add chopped chili’s, and fries well done” on the walk up menu.

They have burgers, fries, soft drinks, and shakes. That’s it. It’s a highly tuned business model and their employees work pretty damn hard.
 
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Septic said:
Give it time.

If minimum wage is dictated past what the market will bear for low skilled workers, look for automation and or less people doing way more work.

The $15++ minimum wage will be terrible for businesses that rely on low skilled workers that already have thin margins.
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A thoughtful post free of jabs and mocking.

You feeling okay, Sep?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
They are good but they aren’t worthy of the cult following they get. And a lot of people really hate their fries. It’s all driven by the unpublished menu. You won’t see my “double double animal style, add chopped chili’s, and fries well done” on the walk up menu.

They have burgers, fries, soft drinks, and shakes. That’s it. It’s a highly tuned business model and their employees work pretty damn hard.
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Totally worthy of the cult following. In-n-out is just about all I eat when I'm in cali or texas.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
Totally worthy of the cult following. In-n-out is just about all I eat when I'm in cali or texas.
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Absence makes the heart grow fonder I guess. I got one 5 minutes from my house and I’ll eat there once or twice a month. You saw my order what is your preferred unpublished burger?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Absence makes the heart grow fonder I guess. I got one 5 minutes from my house and I’ll eat there once or twice a month. You saw my order what is your preferred unpublished burger?
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I like the 3x3. I tried the animals fries once but I usually prefer plain fries.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
I like the 3x3. I tried the animals fries once but I usually prefer plain fries.
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Oh I do too. I get the burger animal style not the fries. It’s different. I get my frys well done so they’re more like the flash fried ones at other chains but they are still fresh. In N Out makes their frys fresh from in house peeled potatoes. They have a specific potatoe peeling machine designed just for them I believe. Again a highly tuned model.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Oh I do too. I get the burger animal style not the fries. It’s different. I get my frys well done so they’re more like the flash fried ones at other chains but they are still fresh. In N Out makes their frys fresh from in house peeled potatoes. They have a specific potatoe peeling machine designed just for them I believe. Again a highly tuned model.
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Can't beat it for the price. I would spend just as much at McDonald's when I could get actual beef at in-n-out instead.
 
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Septic said:
Give it time.

If minimum wage is dictated past what the market will bear for low skilled workers, look for automation and or less people doing way more work.

The $15++ minimum wage will be terrible for businesses that rely on low skilled workers that already have thin margins.
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This is why I have hope for you.

You are atleast near the middle.

On a side note, my buddy and I go to cedar point every year and normally around Halloween. In 2019 we were driving from columbus to Sandusky and stopped at a McDonalds for breakfast somewhere in one of the tiny towns in between.

I got to order and there is no cashier. I was honestly stumped. I asked where do I order and the point behind me at a 5 foot tall iPad looking screen. That was the cashier. No cash, only credit.

These huge crops don't care because they will just automate the job out and as the cost gets less eventually the small guy will be able to also.

By 2040 we aren't going to have any truckers, any cashiers, any store cleaners, any warehouse workers. It will all be computers and robots.

I just don't see how society does not cannibalize itself in the future.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I agree. In it's current form absolutely. That's why I think they will try something like that eventually. Business is free react to new govt laws. They have tax experts that help them neuter any attempt the govt makes to take their money.

I'm not saying it's inevitable, but the more extreme the Democrats become you get more extreme weirdos in govt.
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It is a result of the primary system.
 
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I'll admit I haven't read hardly any posts in this thread, but here's my center-right, communist (LOL) take: A minimum wage hike is necessary. Certainly there should be exemptions to smaller businesses. I'm confident that companies like McDonald's, WalMart, Lowe's, etc., can absorb the higher wage and still provide an efficient, affordable product. It's imperative the smaller, "mom pop's", are free of the hike. My 0.02 worth
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I'll admit I haven't read hardly any posts in this thread, but here's my center-right, communist (LOL) take: A minimum wage hike is necessary. Certainly there should be exemptions to smaller businesses. I'm confident that companies like McDonald's, WalMart, Lowe's, etc., can absorb the higher wage and still provide an efficient, affordable product. It's imperative the smaller, "mom pop's", are free of the hike. My 0.02 worth
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So why penalize the big chains for being successful? This approach is the government literally interfering on a company’s margins based on gross revenue? And on McDonalds you have corporate stores and individually owned franchises.

Not attacking you just the idea. Why should the government put its thumb on the scales of free enterprise? The best of intentions and what not.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I'll admit I haven't read hardly any posts in this thread, but here's my center-right, communist (LOL) take: A minimum wage hike is necessary. Certainly there should be exemptions to smaller businesses. I'm confident that companies like McDonald's, WalMart, Lowe's, etc., can absorb the higher wage and still provide an efficient, affordable product. It's imperative the smaller, "mom pop's", are free of the hike. My 0.02 worth
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Huh?
 
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