The Liberal Argument for a Higher Minimum Wage

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NorthDallas40 said:
So why penalize the big chains for being successful? This approach is the government literally interfering on a company’s margins based on gross revenue? And on McDonalds you have corporate stores and individually owned franchises.

Not attacking you just the idea. Why should the government put its thumb on the scales of free enterprise? The best of intentions and what not.
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They're not being penalized for being successful. That's a crazy perspective. They're being asked to pay a more livable wage to their employees. That gets many of them off government assistance. The net effect will absorb the hikes. If these companies are as great as they've been over the years, they should be able to implement operational models that will continue to yield a rather high profit margin.

I get your concern with government intervention. In this case, I believe it is needed
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
They're not being penalized for being successful. That's a crazy perspective. They're being asked to pay a more livable wage to their employees. That gets many of them off government assistance. The net effect will absorb the hikes. If these companies are as great as they've been over the years, they should be able to implement operational models that will continue to yield a rather high profit margin.

I get your concern with government intervention. In this case, I believe it is needed
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Ok we’ll disagree. I’m absolutely against government interference and picking winners and losers on employee costs even with the best of intentions. It needs to be even across the board. This isn’t corporate charity. Compulsory “charity” is taxation.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
They're not being penalized for being successful. That's a crazy perspective. They're being asked to pay a more livable wage to their employees. That gets many of them off government assistance. The net effect will absorb the hikes. If these companies are as great as they've been over the years, they should be able to implement operational models that will continue to yield a rather high profit margin.

I get your concern with government intervention. In this case, I believe it is needed
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Another thought. How do the mom and pop stores compete for labor? Their competition is mandated to pay more. Who do you want to work for? Again the best of intentions.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Depends on the location. There are hundreds of towns that quell corporate chains
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But why does that make it ok. I do understand your intentions and can understand why you think this is just. I just submit that it’s not evenly applied across all cases and thus doesn’t fit a basic mold of a government regulation/requirement. And in fact could hurt the mom and pop labor cost pool. That’s all
 
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NEO said:
This is why I have hope for you.

You are atleast near the middle.

On a side note, my buddy and I go to cedar point every year and normally around Halloween. In 2019 we were driving from columbus to Sandusky and stopped at a McDonalds for breakfast somewhere in one of the tiny towns in between.

I got to order and there is no cashier. I was honestly stumped. I asked where do I order and the point behind me at a 5 foot tall iPad looking screen. That was the cashier. No cash, only credit.

These huge crops don't care because they will just automate the job out and as the cost gets less eventually the small guy will be able to also.

By 2040 we aren't going to have any truckers, any cashiers, any store cleaners, any warehouse workers. It will all be computers and robots.

I just don't see how society does not cannibalize itself in the future.
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I'm more fiscally conservative than most of the people in here, probably own more guns too. Too many people have created a dichotomy where not liking Trump must mean you're a libtard.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
But why does that make it ok. I do understand your intentions and can understand why you think this is just. I just submit that it’s not evenly applied across all cases and thus doesn’t fit a basic mold of a government regulation/requirement. And in fact could hurt the mom and pop labor cost pool. That’s all
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We must do everything we can to make it as evenly applied as possible
 
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ajvol01 said:
Federal laws for minimum wage have never had exceptions based on “small business” or other.

Good luck with this fantasy.
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So? Doesn't mean the laws can't be more distinctively written and applied. It's not remotely close to rocket science to figure it out. Damn
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
So? Doesn't mean the laws can't be more distinctively written and applied. It's not remotely close to rocket science to figure it out. Damn
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The unions would never allow a graduated minim wage. The simplest solution is to kill the federal minimum wage and leave it up to states and cities.
 
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This is another intentionally divisive and manipulative issue. Minimum wage is not something politicians want to fix. They need the issue to reoccur so they can build a platform from which to shout their rhetoric. If you are for increases in Minimum wage, don't just support your party and the issue, demand you party tie minimum wage to an annual increase in inflation. If you are against, demand the issue be stripped from Federal oversight and be decided at the state or county level.
You want to see unity in DC? Go after the issues which each party uses to divide us, manipulate us, and consolidate power. The parties will unify against us so quickly you will not believe it.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
They're not being penalized for being successful. That's a crazy perspective. They're being asked to pay a more livable wage to their employees. That gets many of them off government assistance. The net effect will absorb the hikes. If these companies are as great as they've been over the years, they should be able to implement operational models that will continue to yield a rather high profit margin.

I get your concern with government intervention. In this case, I believe it is needed
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How does it get them off of government assistance?
 
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