The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[Sudden Impact]

The real question is :if he wasn't running for president , and kept his mouth closed, would he have even been indicted? Mar a Lago 18 million?? ( empty lots next door valued at 4 - 5 times more)
Stormy daniels. Congress has a slush fund to pay such cases for congress and does not reported the identity of the accused. It was always political, from the fbi lovers plan to stop Trump to the made up debunked lies they keep repeating to this day. From rules for radicals by Saul Alinsky: Repeat a lie loud enough and long enough people will start believing it. Read the Alinsky rules and compare to democratic tactics.Control the media and the flow of information. Ever heard of Cloward -Pivens strategy? Overload the system and demand services to crash the system. The build back better slogan reflects this, implying present system must be torn down. Bottom up middle out has replaced the American dream of anything is possible with hard work and perserverance. Lastly and most concerning: The end justifies the means.

Trump would have been indicted regardless of Presidential Bid. He may not of been indicted as much, but he pissed off enough people to cause the indictments and it was not just Democrats.

If he had conceded and keep his mouth shut, he still would have been indicted for the Documents case at a minimum and maybe the NY case because of the hate. In fact, the NY cases are/were a joke.
More than likely the Jan 6 indictments and GA indictments do not occur. The Document case goes away if he hands them over, he didn't.
This is DJT's "modus operandi" and he wanted this chaos to become a victim and set the stage for an a Dem vs Rep and victim mentality claim. Out of control so the Dems took the bait. Trump's mouth kept rolling and the Dems used it because he gave them the opportunity with his mouth to pursue the indictments and they pile it on one indictment after another.
The split the Rep party has been coming but this helped widened the gap not because of the indictments but because of Trump's mouth.
The Vote will be quite simple in November -- Trump Haters vs Trump Lovers. Harris just needs to keep her mouth shut and she wins which is another problem in itself. If she is elected she will once again open her mouth. No hold your nose votes, but a no vote. Harris stepping on her own feet is Trump's only hope to get elected. They are both chameleons.
Trump is a victim by his own doing and it is a self inflicted chest wound due to his mouth. His mouth is what it is.
Sad part is that both are unfit for office.

 

[me_grag53]

A victim of his own doing ? What ? like running for president as a republican. I can see how that would piss them off enough to use all the power of government to get rid of him. They are marxist globalists. To "Build back Better" they must destroy the capitalist oppressors. Trump threatens their dream of a marxist all powerful state. Kamalas dad is a marxist econ professor at stanford , right? The apple and tree thing , you know. And walz, how many times has he been to china?

 

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A victim of his own doing ? What ? like running for president as a republican. I can see how that would piss them off enough to use all the power of government to get rid of him. They are marxist globalists. To "Build back Better" they must destroy the capitalist oppressors. Trump threatens their dream of a marxist all powerful state. Kamalas dad is a marxist econ professor at stanford , right? The apple and tree thing , you know. And walz, how many times has he been to china?

yadi yadi yada Trump is a RINO. Dems want to get rid of Trump regardless of his party. Trump opening his mouth usually sets the Dems up to pursue him. It's the non align voters. Trump complaining for 4 years and the results are the same. Slam Harris all you want. Slam the Democrats all you want. Apple and Tree thing to validate it is silly but can resonate with the uniform voter that wants. Best put is Harris is a liberal with liberal agenda.

 

[me_grag53]

yadi yadi yada Trump is a RINO. Dems want to get rid of Trump regardless of his party. Trump opening his mouth usually sets the Dems up to pursue him. It's the non align voters. Trump complaining for 4 years and the results are the same. Slam Harris all you want. Slam the Democrats all you want. Apple and Tree thing to validate it is silly but can resonate with the uniform voter that wants. Best put is Harris is a liberal with liberal agenda.

What did you think obama meant by fundamental change? just be a little more liberal? The goal is a central one party govt.

 

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What did you think obama meant by fundamental change? just be a little more liberal? The goal is a central one party govt.

what do you think he meant? Does what he said mean anything? let me answer it for you, NO. Last time I checked the ballot obama was not a candidate. If you are going to question non Presidential Contenders then have fun. Look at the ridiculous statements from both sides as both Trump and Harris stick their feet in their mouths quite often. Same Applies to the VPs and Congress members as well. But yet you choose Obama who may be an influencer but not a factor except for those like you who try to make him one... Look for words out of the mouths of Harris and Trump. They are both even on stupid statements. You are not seriously worried about Obama, are you?

 

[me_grag53]

what do you think he meant? Does what he said mean anything? let me answer it for you, NO. Last time I checked the ballot obama was not a candidate. If you are going to question non Presidential Contenders then have fun. Look at the ridiculous statements from both sides as both Trump and Harris stick their feet in their mouths quite often. Same Applies to the VPs and Congress members as well. But yet you choose Obama who may be an influencer but not a factor except for those like you who try to make him one... Look for words out of the mouths of Harris and Trump. They are both even on stupid statements. You are not seriously worried about Obama, are you?

Who do you think is actually running things now ? Joe? From the beach?? And kh has obama advisors. Once again you get to vote for who they give you. Biden got bernied and you get kh. Dissent is strongly discouraged. Watch her statements from the last campaign and debates. "My values have not changed."

 

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ds- Who do you think is actually running things now ? Joe? From the beach?? And kh has obama advisors. Once again you get to vote for who they give you. Biden got bernied and you get kh. Dissent is strongly discouraged. Watch her statements from the last campaign and debates. "My values have not changed."

I get to vote for who I choose to vote for or I may not choose to vote in the Presidential race at all... Who they (D or R) choose may not be fit for the office as is the case today. If you think I am going take a party and vote party line you did not read my previous post. Both are unfit and I personally cannot vote for anybody that does not meet the standards required for the office or self serving.

 

[me_grag53]

I get to vote for who I choose to vote for or I may not choose to vote in the Presidential race at all... Who they (D or R) choose may not be fit for the office as is the case today. If you think I am going take a party and vote party line you did not read my previous post. Both are unfit and I personally cannot vote for anybody that does not meet the standards required for the office or self serving.

The reality this time is you either get the marxist cultural revolution or Trump. I was much bettet off under trump. These the only realistic choices .

 

[Sudden Impact]

The reality this time is you either get the marxist cultural revolution or Trump. I was much bettet off under trump. These the only realistic choices .

No choice is the better option. One is no better than the other. So whatever makes you feel good is fine, it's your choice.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

A victim of his own doing ? What ? like running for president as a republican. I can see how that would piss them off enough to use all the power of government to get rid of him. They are marxist globalists. To "Build back Better" they must destroy the capitalist oppressors. Trump threatens their dream of a marxist all powerful state. Kamalas dad is a marxist econ professor at stanford , right? The apple and tree thing , you know. And walz, how many times has he been to china?

Trump isn't a threat to anything but the supply of Big Macs and Whoppers

 

[CobbVol]

No choice is the better option. One is no better than the other. So whatever makes you feel good is fine, it's your choice.

Agreed. It is your choice.

A no vote in the Presidential or a write-in will more than likely puts the socialist/communist in the WH. Get ready for your taxes and governmental spending to go up dramatically.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Agreed. It is your choice.

A no vote in the Presidential or a write-in will more than likely puts the socialist/communist in the WH. Get ready for your taxes and governmental spending to go up dramatically.

Fear monger much? Politician's tell people what they want to hear and once elected they do what they want to do.
One side wants you to believe one thing the other side does the same.
It is like there is not cloud in the sky with the sun shining brightly, but the other side tells you it is a downpour.
Bottom Line for me: I want a President that is respected World Wide and serves this country. These two are on their own agendas.
No Matter who wins expect more of the same next 4 years. Impeachments by the losers, dysfunctional Congress, more chaos.
Sometimes you have to cut the infections out to fix the problem. So vote where it matters in the down ballots.

Harris has moved toward the middle to capture the Republican hate Trump vote. Don't fall for that trick. Trump is a whiner and has an ego. A convicted Felon, Putin's pet and like Harris will say anything to get your vote. Trump's Brain is slipping and Harris has a pea for one.

Neither one of them are worthy of hiring. Waiting on the next viable candidate.

 

[CobbVol]

Fear monger much? Politician's tell people what they want to hear and once elected they do what they want to do.
One side wants you to believe one thing the other side does the same.
It is like there is not cloud in the sky with the sun shining brightly, but the other side tells you it is a downpour.
Bottom Line for me: I want a President that is respected World Wide and serves this country. These two are on their own agendas.
No Matter who wins expect more of the same next 4 years. Impeachments by the losers, dysfunctional Congress, more chaos.
Sometimes you have to cut the infections out to fix the problem. So vote where it matters in the down ballots.

Harris has moved toward the middle to capture the Republican hate Trump vote. Don't fall for that trick. Trump is a whiner and has an ego. A convicted Felon, Putin's pet and like Harris will say anything to get your vote. Trump's Brain is slipping and Harris has a pea for one.

Neither one of them are worthy of hiring. Waiting on the next viable candidate.

She does not have to move in any direction to capture the hate Trump vote as she already has it. She is moving to the middle to capture the "both candidates are the same" vote. Don't fall for that trick.

 

[Sudden Impact]

She does not have to move in any direction to capture the hate Trump vote as she already has it. She is moving to the middle to capture the "both candidates are the same" vote. Don't fall for that trick.

We see it differently, Republican Party is somewhat disjointed. Plus, there is a group that want Trump gone. Harris is trying to capture the undecided Independent vote along with the Moderate Republican voter who will anti vote Trump or not vote at all.

The polling as we have seen in the past can be skewed or too close to call. It is a close race and KH has shifted her positions to pick up bread crumbs which will add up for her.

Once over, no matter who is elected this will be one of the most interesting elections in history as far as the demographics, gender, race and income classification we have ever seen.

In essence, nothing changes in Democracy because this is the way that Democracy works. What happens after the election is a whole different story regarding Democracy. You cannot please every faction and somebody has to be the Adult in the room which is normally the President with Congress.

I fear that we are headed toward more impeachments regardless of who wins and another 4 years of a dysfunctional Congress.

 

[me_grag53]

We see it differently, Republican Party is somewhat disjointed. Plus, there is a group that want Trump gone. Harris is trying to capture the undecided Independent vote along with the Moderate Republican voter who will anti vote Trump or not vote at all.

The polling as we have seen in the past can be skewed or too close to call. It is a close race and KH has shifted her positions to pick up bread crumbs which will add up for her.

Once over, no matter who is elected this will be one of the most interesting elections in history as far as the demographics, gender, race and income classification we have ever seen.

In essence, nothing changes in Democracy because this is the way that Democracy works. What happens after the election is a whole different story regarding Democracy. You cannot please every faction and somebody has to be the Adult in the room which is normally the President with Congress.

I fear that we are headed toward more impeachments regardless of who wins and another 4 years of a dysfunctional Congress.

Even with the impeachments Trump is better than what we have now. Communist party usa website reads like a democratic site. Check it out cpusa.org. BLM founders were self described as Venezuelan trained marxist organizers. The BLM marches were cover for the antifa violence(mostly peaceful protests). The choice is MAGA or Marx. The marxists are the ones terrorizing the Jewish students on campuses across the country and burning American flags. They are not wearing MAGA hats.

 

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Even with the impeachments Trump is better than what we have now. Communist party usa website reads like a democratic site. Check it out cpusa.org. BLM founders were self described as Venezuelan trained marxist organizers. The BLM marches were cover for the antifa violence(mostly peaceful protests). The choice is MAGA or Marx. The marxists are the ones terrorizing the Jewish students on campuses across the country and burning American flags. They are not wearing MAGA hats.

A lot of assumptions, drama and bull in that paragraph. Try writing a paragraph without MAGA & Marxist. Straight up fear mongering. Using the same tactics that both parties are engaging in with to sway votes.
Politics has turned into a Politicians not telling you what their platform is but instead telling you what their opponent's platform is without the first clue. Chicken little approach.

People buy into this hook line and sinker. Wisest thing is to back away from the cliff vs being the town crier for one side. IOW, deal with the facts not the assumptions.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Trump isn't a threat to anything but the supply of Big Macs and Whoppers

Then why do you hate him so much?

 

[CobbVol]

A lot of assumptions, drama and bull in that paragraph. Try writing a paragraph without MAGA & Marxist. Straight up fear mongering. Using the same tactics that both parties are engaging in with to sway votes.
Politics has turned into a Politicians not telling you what their platform is but instead telling you what their opponent's platform is without the first clue. Chicken little approach.

People buy into this hook line and sinker. Wisest thing is to back away from the cliff vs being the town crier for one side. IOW, deal with the facts not the assumptions.

How about these facts:

Kamala wants to raise corporate tax rate from 21% to 28%. In her bid for the 2020 nomination she said it should be 35%.
Trump wants to cut the corporate tax rate from 21% to 15%

Kamala wants to allow the Trump tax cuts to expire. Trump wants to extend them or make permanent. Here are the increases that will occur when this happens:

The top individual tax rate dropped from 39.6% to 37% under the terms of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (single filers making $578,126 and over), the 33% bracket fell to 32% ($182,101-$231,250), the 28% bracket to 24% ($95,376-$182,100), the 25% bracket to 22% ($44,726-$95,375) and the 15% bracket to 12% ($11,001-$44,725).

Other tax policies supported by her and the socialist/communist ticket from her 2020 campaign:

• Raising the top marginal income tax rate on the top 1 percent to 39.6 percent
• Implementing a 4 percent “income-based premium” on households making more than $100,000 annually to pay for her version of “Medicare for All”
• Creating a $3,000 refundable tax credit ($6,000 for married couples filing jointly) (the LIFT Act) for low- and middle-income taxpayers
• Raising capital gains tax rates to ordinary income tax rates, though it is unclear if Harris would do so only on a subset of taxpayers
• Raising the corporate income tax rate of 21 percent up to 35 percent
• Expanding the estate tax
• Imposing a financial transaction tax (FTT) on stock trades at 0.2 percent, bond trades at 0.1 percent, and derivative transactions at 0.002 percent
• Providing $2,000 per person per month for pandemic relief in mid-2020; totaling about $21 trillion, hers was one of the largest aid proposals, far surpassing what was eventually passed into law in December 2020
• Creating a tax credit for rent payments made by renters who earn less than $100,000 and spend over 30 percent of their income on rent and utilities

All this is to support a $10T climate agenda and Medicare for all including immigrants crossing the border. Insurance providers would go away to allow DC to run the health care system.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Then why do you hate him so much?

I don't hate him. I dislike him. Big difference to most people. Your ilk doesn't differentiate

 

[me_grag53]

I don't hate him. I dislike him. Big difference to most people. Your ilk doesn't differentiate

It's not personal hate. It is policy. Your ilk doesn't differntiate

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

It's not personal hate. It is policy. Your ilk doesn't differntiate

I've never heard Trump articulate his policy positions. I know that works for you since you can't articulate any either

 

[me_grag53]

A lot of assumptions, drama and bull in that paragraph. Try writing a paragraph without MAGA & Marxist. Straight up fear mongering. Using the same tactics that both parties are engaging in with to sway votes.
Politics has turned into a Politicians not telling you what their platform is but instead telling you what their opponent's platform is without the first clue. Chicken little approach.

People buy into this hook line and sinker. Wisest thing is to back away from the cliff vs being the town crier for one side. IOW, deal with the facts not the assumptions.

N.Y.Times Aug31 :
"Trump owes his political ascent to the Constitution, making him a beneficiary of a document that is essentially antidemocratic and, in this day and age, increasingly dysfunctional.

After all, Trump became president in 2016 after losing the popular vote but winning the Electoral College (Article II)..."
Decisions they dislike triggers talk of reforming the Supreme Court.
Study Venezuela. Chavez added a dozen justices to their highest court. Now Maduro remains in power backed by their highest court , even in the face of an obviously fraudulently election.

 

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The Constitution was written by a group of European rejects and it does need a revamp but not by Amendments. Unfortunately, it is not the time to do it.
Venezuela Politics should not even be mentioned in the same universe as a playbook option for the United States.
This type of political jargon is what it is as we have too many good people to figure it out on both sides of the aisle to solve our problems vs seeking them from Venezuela.
You are using it as a crutch or a handicap to voice your opinion to solve a very complex problem.
Neither candidate is a problem solver and both are riding on their party lines to do their bidding.
Trump has ripped the Republican party into 3 to 4 parts and he is losing his grip on 3 of the 4.
You want Venezuela Politics and government then move to Venezuela.

 

[hog88]

The Constitution was written by a group of European rejects and it does need a revamp but not by Amendments. Unfortunately, it is not the time to do it.
Venezuela Politics should not even be mentioned in the same universe as a playbook option for the United States.
This type of political jargon is what it is as we have too many good people to figure it out on both sides of the aisle to solve our problems vs seeking them from Venezuela.
You are using it as a crutch or a handicap to voice your opinion to solve a very complex problem.
Neither candidate is a problem solver and both are riding on their party lines to do their bidding.
Trump has ripped the Republican party into 3 to 4 parts and he is losing his grip on 3 of the 4.
You want Venezuela Politics and government then move to Venezuela.

In your enlightened opinion what about the constitution needs to be revamped?

 

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In your enlightened opinion what about the constitution needs to be revamped?

Term limits, Electoral College, Age limits, Days of Sessions needs to increase are real simple ones. 174 days = $174k + kickbacks. For example, more than 60% of the government jobs are 24/7 and are underpaid. Congress has not earned their $$$$ since 2000. Again this is a real simple fix. 174 days may have been the answer a while back but not the answer today. Too many games and to much technology with too much fake news and too many opinions.
The Constitution has not changed but how both sides interpret has. We are running this country in a grey area and causing more chaos and confusing media. Throwing crap against the wall right before a recess. Trump was right it is a swamp and Harris is not smart enough to recognize it.

Ben Carson said it best regarding in summary that we expect Congress to fix the problems they created.