The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

[GAVol]

It is interesting to see "new" facts to the case. Just like the text the police sent to the homeowner showing that there was multiple incidents over months, and that the McMichaels and neighbors clearly knew about them

The fact that the police were giving out McMichael’s contact info to handle things is a little insane.

 

[Rickyvol77]

The fact that the police were giving out McMichael’s contact info to handle things is a little insane.

Goes to show their AND McMichael's mindset. I guarantee that McMichael saw each of those security videos and knew what the suspect from all those incidents looked like.
That plus the other neighbor telling him that Arbery ran from that house when he confronted him PLUS McMichael "getting spooked because he thought guy had a gun" the incident before this in confronting Arbery the 1st time. Definitely interesting stuff

 

[GAVol]

Goes to show their AND McMichael's mindset. I guarantee that McMichael saw each of those security videos and knew what the suspect from all those incidents looked like.
That plus the other neighbor telling him that Arbery ran from that house when he confronted him PLUS McMichael "getting spooked because he thought guy had a gun" the incident before this in confronting Arbery the 1st time. Definitely interesting stuff

Interesting... but all the more reason why McMichael should’ve let the police engage the suspect.

 

[bamawriter]

Texts Show Cop Suggested House Owner Contact Gregory McMichael About Trespasser

That sure doesn't help combat the theory that the old boy network kept the McMichaels from being arrested for two months.

 

[bamawriter]

Pretty sure everybody that’s ever seen a cop show knows that. The point is that most assumed that the video guy was part of the posse which he may not have been. On one hand, it’s strange that he just happened to be there. On the other hand, if he knew a confrontation involving guns was planned, he probably wouldn’t have been so close or shooting video.

Greg McMichael told the cops that "Roddy" Bryan was participating in the pursuit. I can buy that he didn't know the McMichaels were armed.

 

[FLVOL_79]

 

[Rickyvol77]

jogging again i see?

 

[Roustabout]

jogging again i see?

These cops down there are race baiting, inbred pigs. Stop over policing.

 

[Roustabout]

That sure doesn't help combat the theory that the old boy network kept the McMichaels from being arrested for two months.

Amen! My fellow conservatives need to get on the right side of this issue. Why are we against a police state, except when it comes to the inner city.

Over policing is a violation of our constitutional rights.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Amen! My fellow conservatives need to get on the right side of this issue. Why are we against a police state, except when it comes to the inner city.

Over policing is a violation of our constitutional rights.

He doesn't have the right to pull his car off the road onto others' property. Same as he doesn't have the right to go inside other people's house

 

[bamawriter]

Holy crap, that cop was itching to use that taser.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Holy crap, that cop was itching to use that taser.

The first officer was fine in his actions, the one who tried to use the taser is poorly trained and was scared that he was going for a weapon when he likely was trying to pull his stupid pants up. Which is interesting since both McMichael and the other guy stated Arbery looked like he was going for a weapon during that other alleged incident with him.

Arbery's reaction seems to be one of defensive anger a lot when he is being questioned over doing something wrong

 

[FLVOL_79]

jogging again i see?

Yeah the jogging narrative has been totally destroyed by now. It is what it is, a intellectually impaired guy with a criminal history casing joints and breaking into homes who decided to bow up to a guy with a shotgun and got killed.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Amen! My fellow conservatives need to get on the right side of this issue. Why are we against a police state, except when it comes to the inner city.

Over policing is a violation of our constitutional rights.

Good question but one that no one really wants to know the answer because it is diametrically opposed to what most folks consider the foundation of a fair and free society.

That being said, the taser video..that cop with the taser..that dude doesn't need to be policing streets.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Good question but one that no one really wants to know the answer because it is diametrically opposed to what most folks consider the foundation of a fair and free society.

That being said, the taser video..that cop with the taser..that dude doesn't need to be policing streets.

I agree, he is either in need of courage (you can't teach that) or at least you need better training.

The stop itself was fine, i believe the officer was telling the truth about the high drug activity. And here is a guy sitting in a car, and had driven from the roadway up into the grassy area way off the roadway, onto someone's property and when questioned, starting acting like a violent emotional idiot. Of course his license was suspended and if i had been the officer i would've searched the vehicle further, especially after Arbery's previous charges. But the officer decided to cut him a break and let him walk off.

A simple conversation (even if it leads to detaining) by an officer isn't some extreme reach of over policing. I would say the same thing whether he was in Walter P. or Farragut

 

[Roustabout]

Good question but one that no one really wants to know the answer because it is diametrically opposed to what most folks consider the foundation of a fair and free society.

That being said, the taser video..that cop with the taser..that dude doesn't need to be policing streets.

He doesn't have the right to pull his car off the road onto others' property. Same as he doesn't have the right to go inside other people's house

dude, when I was young we went through plenty of construction sites. The fact you think an armed posse is a proper response shows your patent racism.

 

[Roustabout]

I agree, he is either in need of courage (you can't teach that) or at least you need better training.

The stop itself was fine, i believe the officer was telling the truth about the high drug activity. And here is a guy sitting in a car, and had driven from the roadway up into the grassy area way off the roadway, onto someone's property and when questioned, starting acting like a violent emotional idiot. Of course his license was suspended and if i had been the officer i would've searched the vehicle further, especially after Arbery's previous charges. But the officer decided to cut him a break and let him walk off.

A simple conversation (even if it leads to detaining) by an officer isn't some extreme reach of over policing. I would say the same thing whether he was in Walter P. or Farragut

How the hell do you know. It looks like a grassy area between a train tack and the road. I’d be pissed as hell to. These cops had no reason for this. No law broken. No traffic violation. Hyper policing.

 

[Rickyvol77]

dude, when I was young we went through plenty of construction sites. The fact you think an armed posse is a proper response shows your patent racism.

1) you were wrong to go onto other people's property. period. Nothing you can say will justify going onto/into someone else's house without permission. just because you and your friends did doesn't make it normal or legal
2) I never said that, quit putting words in my mouth
3) I am not racist because i believe that people should respect others' property. If Arbery was white, Hispanic, Asian, i would say the same exact thing. Of course if that had been the case, you never would've even heard about this story either.

 

[FLVOL_79]

dude, when I was young we went through plenty of construction sites. The fact you think an armed posse is a proper response shows your patent racism.

I did the same in my neighborhood in Knoxville. Used to steel propane tubes used for nail guns then blow em up. Everyone wanders through those sites. No one is saying an armed posse is the proper response. At least I'm not. Thats why you call the police. In my old neighborhood in Orlando I saw a black guy walking through the hood and grabbing every car door handle to see if any were unlocked. I didn't run in and grab my shotgun, I called the sheriff. They came and arrested him.

 

[Rickyvol77]

How the hell do you know. It looks like a grassy area between a train tack and the road. I’d be pissed as hell to. These cops had no reason for this. No law broken. No traffic violation. Hyper policing.

- Any area (not a city owned road) that's within a certain amount of feet from a train track, is private property owned by that railroad company.
- He was driving on a suspended license in a car that wasn't his
- You can't leave a paved roadway even in a park and go driving through the grass just anywhere. I want you to drive down to Victor Ashe park and leave the road and drive over into one of fields and see what the police do
- Police are particularly active in parks due to the large amount of criminal activity that happen within them. So if they see something suspicious they will likely investigate it every time

 

[Roustabout]

- Any area (not a city owned road) that's within a certain amount of feet from a train track, is private property owned by that railroad company.
- He was driving on a suspended license in a car that wasn't his
- You can't leave a paved roadway even in a park and go driving through the grass just anywhere. I want you to drive down to Victor Ashe park and leave the road and drive over into one of fields and see what the police do
- Police are particularly active in parks due to the large amount of criminal activity that happen within them. So if they see something suspicious they will likely investigate it every time

Bold, LOL.
So, you know he was just randomly driving through the grass, or did he pulled off a road with no shoulder? Do you have anything to support the BS you’re spewing? I think you’re making **** up.

They could not site one legit reason for stopping him. Profiling plain and simple.

They had no idea his license was suspended or whose car he was in prior to stopping him. It’s OVER ****ing policing. It’s BS.

 

[Bigun]

How the hell do you know. It looks like a grassy area between a train tack and the road. I’d be pissed as hell to. These cops had no reason for this. No law broken. No traffic violation. Hyper policing.

How do you know he was ok to be there? What if the residents had complained to police about cars pulling back there and wanted to patrol more? You are just as racists and biased the other way against all police.

 

[Bigun]

Bold, LOL.
So, you know he was just randomly driving through the grass, or did he pulled off a road with no shoulder? Do you have anything to support the BS you’re spewing? I think you’re making **** up.

They could not site one legit reason for stopping him. Profiling plain and simple.

They had no idea his license was suspended or whose car he was in prior to stopping him. It’s OVER ****ing policing. It’s BS.

Police stopping and questioning someone isn't over policing....no matter much you hate the police.

 

[Roustabout]

Police stopping and questioning someone isn't over policing....no matter much you hate the police.

I don’t hate the police. My wife works in the prosecution side of the criminal justice system.

Police NEED to have a legitimate reason to stop someone. It’s absolutely over policing. There was no infraction or threat to public safety. His reaction was just that. A reaction to being stopped and detained with no probable cause.

You’re just another latent racist.

 

[Bigun]

Yeah the jogging narrative has been totally destroyed by now. It is what it is, a intellectually impaired guy with a criminal history casing joints and breaking into homes who decided to bow up to a guy with a shotgun and got killed.

Always seems to be the way it goes with the narrative. Michael Brown was a gentle giant, on his way to college and helping the needy at church, Trayvon was Obama's son, and Arbery was just out for a normal jog.