The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

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Rickyvol77 said:
When Bryan rolled up. What did he see? I’m pretty sure he saw Arbery running towards McMichael and hitting him a few times before trying to take his gun. Pretty sure you wouldn’t have wanted to know what he would’ve done if he had been armed and decided to use it
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You mean Bryan didnt "roll up" until Arbery ran after McMichael? Why would he be recording like that if he just came on the scene? He obviously knew something was happening. I dont know if he was helping or not, but it's odd to contend Bryan showed up and started recording just as Arbery charged McMichael.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
You mean Bryan didnt "roll up" until Arbery ran after McMichael? Why would he be recording like that if he just came on the scene. He obviously knew something was happening. I dont know if he was helping or not, but it's odd to contend Bryan showed up and started recording just as Arbery charged McMichael.
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Greg McMichael told the cops Bryan was helping in the chase.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Didn't see the post you were responding to, but "Party to a Crime or Criminal Attempt to Commit" down here, AKA "accessory", is treated the same as committing the charged crime. That's what makes me believe the GBI has evidence that none of us know about. FYI, there have been rumors of video that depicts a "4 minute chase". That would not benefit any of the charged defendants in this case.

If I knew anything that was not a matter of public knowledge, I could not share it here. As it is, I don't. We're all working off of the same info. My sole advantage here is that I know some of the involved parties, and I know about some of the skeletons that are starting to fall out of closets...
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Like you said, I'm just working off of what we have all seen (the video) and what we know...first glance might indicate Bryan gets a lesser charge. But I don't know what I don't know wrt GA law and how this all gets sorted out between Grand Jury, Prosecutors, etc..

Edit: And what are the chances GBI needs Bryan to work with them on the McMichaels? So they start with Felony Murder and work back to a lesser charge with his cooperation? Again, out of my wheel house, but deals are cut with prosecutors all the time in exchange for cooperation so this will be interesting.
 
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Vol737 said:
Like you said, I'm just working off of what we have all seen (the video) and what we know...first glance might indicate Bryan gets a lesser charge. But I don't know what I don't know wrt GA law and how this all gets sorted out between Grand Jury, Prosecutors, etc..

Edit: And what are the chances GBI needs Bryan to work with them on the McMichaels? So they start with Felony Murder and work back to a lesser charge with his cooperation? Again, out of my wheel house, but deals are cut with prosecutors all the time in exchange for cooperation so this will be interesting.
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I'm not a fan of deals for cooperation or not. I understand why they happen, but still not a fan.
 
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GAVol said:
I can see the false imprisonment angle if they think he was boxing Arbery in. But it seems nutty to charge a guy with murder who was 50 yards away and filming everything. I guess they’re saying he was committing a felony that resulted in a death.
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It’s a criminal responsibility theory. If you provide material aid (Terminology may differ) to the underlying felony, you’re as responsible for the murder. Some states may extend liability to accessory after the fact.

Haven’t followed closely enough to say whether he did any of that but that’s probably where they’re going.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'm not focused in on the law, once again. I don't particularly care, once again.

In the grand scheme, a dummy died and two dummies will suffer for their role in killing the other dummy. My concern is why these dummies are dummies in the first place, and why so many people are rushing to defend one or the other of the dummies when it truthfully doesn't teach us anything and really doesn't matter.

Edit to add: I want us to start threads for every methhead or crack addict that kills another methhead or crack addict for the consistency.
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The reason this is news was because the authoritys were looking to sweep a murder under the rug and got caught. That should be news if it happens to ANYONE.

It's telling that you'd try and relegate Arberys death to a rando meth head or crack addict as a comparison for 'consistency', that speaks volumes.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I’m curious to how many posters in this thread believe that Bryant who never did anything with a firearm and was simply following and filming the incident should be charged with felony murder?
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Reminds me of the ISIS guys who just film the ied ambushes while muttering Allah ackbar incessantly. They were didn't do-nuffins too, huh?
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
It’s been a long hard road no doubt. We’ve been kept down long enough.
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That cracks me up bc I use to work with a guy that acted like that..... he was white guy that grew up on a farm in Townsend but he thought/ acted like he was African-American and talked about how he was oppressed all the time.
 
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Septic said:
This guy is nuts. My guess is that he's had a mask in his drawer long before covid. Except his was more of a hood that covered his whole head and came to a point.
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He's one who believes the police are always in the right, or at least get the benefit of the doubt in all cases, and all laws on the books are justifiable and must be enforced. It's hard to discuss anything when that's the starting point
 
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Every single person in this incident put themselves in the places they find themselves now. The black dude had previously been chased out of that neighborhood once before but came back. The hayseeds decided to play Deputy Dog with a moron instead of listening to the cops and are now all sitting in prison
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Every single person in this incident put themselves in the places they find themselves now. The black dude had previously been chased out of that neighborhood once before but came back. The hayseeds decided to play Deputy Dog with a moron instead of listening to the cops and are now all sitting in prison
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I dont like your answer. You must pick a side. Come back when you have made a decision.
 
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jp1 said:
I dont like your answer. You must pick a side. Come back when you have made a decision.
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I pick the side of valuing human life above all else. There is nothing more precious as we are constantly reminded by our high ground residing, morally superior pro-life compadres. Apparently poking about in the wrong neighborhood suspends what should be a universal acceptance of that truth.
 
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Septic said:
Reminds me of the ISIS guys who just film the ied ambushes while muttering Allah ackbar incessantly. They were didn't do-nuffins too, huh?
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So you believe that Bryan too had set out with the knowledge that Arbery was going to be "murdered" in cold blood for "no reason" wow
 
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Septic said:
I pick the side of valuing human life above all else. There is nothing more precious as we are constantly reminded by our high ground residing, morally superior pro-life compadres. Apparently poking about in the wrong neighborhood suspends what should be a universal acceptance of that truth.
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I missed you in the abortion thread saying this lol

I pick the side of valuing human life above all else

And anyone who thinks the "poking around in the wrong neighborhood" is the direct action that got him shot is being disingenuous
 
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utvolpj said:
He's one who believes the police are always in the right, or at least get the benefit of the doubt in all cases, and all laws on the books are justifiable and must be enforced. It's hard to discuss anything when that's the starting point
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You must have missed my SEVERAL posts in the Protect and Serve thread that state on multiple incidents that officers were in the wrong....
 
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