The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

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InVOLuntary said:
And you should get horse and enter the Olympics because you're so good at jumping to conclusions. You have exactly no idea what happened here. You're assuming the guy did nothing to initiate the response from the guy with the gun.
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lmao I know that two men idiotically grabbed their guns and tried to play police and ended up fatally shooting a man. They created the situation through their actions. The question is who acted inappropriately first, and the answer is the two men who tried to assume authority they did not possess. None of that is jumping to conclusion.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
He made a ridiculous assumption that the guy would have shot him in the back so I responded in kind. You guys have convicted based on two things, neither of which are illegal, having guns, and confronting a guy. I'm not defending anyone here, but no one here has enough evidence to convict anyone. We don't know what happened.
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I explained my position with better clarity. You either didn't see or didnt understand. Your summary of my stance is incorrect.
 
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vol445 said:
At the edge of it best I remember.
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When he was shot? I seriously doubt it since he chased him down a while in his truck. And even if he was, I'm pretty sure it doesn't count if you run down the guy and force him back to your property.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This x10000000

When you brandish a gun and step to somebody, you accept the responsibility that comes with it
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Even more so, you accept the responsibility to know when to not step to and brandish.

Those self defense vids on YouTube do an excellent job of breaking down the pros and cons of real life situations.
 
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Weezer said:
lmao I know that two men idiotically grabbed their guns and tried to play police and ended up fatally shooting a man. They created the situation through their actions. The question is who acted inappropriately first, and the answer is the two men who tried to assume authority they did not possess. None of that is jumping to conclusion.
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The freakin 911 operator told them not to pursue and they ignored it.
 
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bamawriter said:
Granted. But if you've pursued a pedestrian in your vehicle, and then climb out of that vehicle toting a shotgun while that pedestrian is coming toward you, at the bare minimum you have created a situation wherein the other would reasonably fear for his life. Period. Georgia is a Stand Your Ground state. The victim was under no duty to retreat.
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Maybe not but you don't have the right to physically assault someone standing in the road even if they have a gun, especially if they are not threatening you with it. Simply having a gun on you even when you are confronting someone isn't in itself threatening them with the gun.

We simply don't know what took place. It's weird that these videos so often miss the most important part.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I didn't watch it, haven't heard about it, and don't really care. People that I don't know die every day. Some of them get shot. Some get knifed. Some get beat to death. Why is this one important to anybody here?
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And yet you chose to post.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Oh yeah, I'm sorry, it's totally reasonable to think a redneck that runs a guy down in his truck after the 911 operator specifically tells him not to and cuts him off twice just wants to talk.

How far up your ass is your head on this?
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Not quite as far as yours obviously. You jumping to so many conclusions.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I didn't watch it, haven't heard about it, and don't really care. People that I don't know die every day. Some of them get shot. Some get knifed. Some get beat to death. Why is this one important to anybody here?
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Because got to have a racial narrative about the poor criminal who didn’t do nuffin
 
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1972 Grad said:
I didn't watch it, haven't heard about it, and don't really care. People that I don't know die every day. Some of them get shot. Some get knifed. Some get beat to death. Why is this one important to anybody here?
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Because it's not coronavirus (thankfully).
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Not quite as far as yours obviously. You jumping to so many conclusions.
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Read your posts and have the balls to accuse anyone else of jumping to anything. You're acting so obtuse on this I'm wondering if any blood is getting to your brain.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So he wasnt assaulted and attacked? Punched and the guy tried to steal his gun?

The video shows that happened
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So the guys didn't create the entire situation by grabbing guns and trying to do the police's jobs? Did the deceased make a bad decision? Yes. Was his decision directly influenced by the unlawful action of the two men? Yes.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
When he was shot? I seriously doubt it since he chased him down a while in his truck. And even if he was, I'm pretty sure it doesn't count if you run down the guy and force him back to your property.
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Exactly. I always hear people say they will drag the guy three or four times over their threshold so it looks like he might have been shot inside. I don’t know Georgia’s law for confronting someone over a theft or supposed theft but I do know ours TN and They would most definitely be going in front of the grand jury. It’s not ok to shot people over property any time.
 
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I swear half the people here saying guilty likely had little/no sympathy for Trayvon Martin. I'm not wanting to discuss that topic, my point is that this is a clear case of irresponsible gun ownership. It's basically 2 against 30
 
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