The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

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VolStrom said:
So he decided to go out on a leisurely jog and decided to attack some neighborhood resident and steal his gun. Sounds plausible to me.
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WTF are you talking about? He was not jogging, the security cameras apparently show he was prowling around and trespassing on property where they had recently been issues.
He physically attacked the son and attempted to take the gun from his hands, do you dispute this happened?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
WTF are you talking about? He was not jogging, the security cameras apparently show he was prowling around and trespassing on property where they had recently been issues.
He physically attacked the son and attempted to take the gun from his hands, do you dispute this happened?
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So you think he deserved to die?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
This is the main point i've tried to make all along, regardless of other opinions and biases. The fact is there was absolutely NO physical violence until the suspect attacked the guy and tried to take his gun
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There would have been no physical violence if the deceased hadn't felt threatened by the situation the two dumbasses created. Your argument is piss poor and does not hold weight.
 
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Weezer said:
Again, the DA the father had worked for? The DA's opinion loses a lot of credibility when you factor that information in.
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Doyou deny that there is a pretty good chance at least 1 or 2 of the shots occurred during the struggle and may have been caused by the suspect himself?
 
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TheDeeble said:
As I said before, the entire neighborhood is an escape route. Don't have to stick to a road. There's a bunch of places they're probably not going to go in their truck he can try on foot.
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He already tried to flee once but that didn't stop their pursuit. Why would he believe dodging again would work? They've already demonstrated they will pursue.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
WTF are you talking about? He was not jogging, the security cameras apparently show he was prowling around and trespassing on property where they had recently been issues.
He physically attacked the son and attempted to take the gun from his hands, do you dispute this happened?
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There were no security cameras on the property at which they saw him. A person who may or may not have been him was seen on security cameras in the neighborhood at completely different points in time.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's impossible to know given that the video pans to the right and doesn't catch any of it. What's pretty obvious is that the driver also crossed toward the front of the truck by the time the camera comes back around. It's not like the tussle begins where the driver had been standing. My guess is that they both reached the front of the truck at roughly the same time and Arbery decided that it was the time to switch from flight to fight.
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Yea I watched the video a dozen times and tried to look to the right on pause and see if I could see someone there that maybe had a gun or maybe a dog, but hard tell. You'd think if that was the case it would have been reported, but who knows.

I'm just not buying he just decided to "Attack" the guy with a gun.
 
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VolStrom said:
So you think he deserved to die?
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who said that? i never did, i think he physically assaulted a guy and tried to take his gun and that led him to be shot, either during the struggle or purposefully in self-defense.

He made a very dumb decision to attempt that assault and made a dumb situation even dumber by physical violence..

If he had either kept running away or waited on the police as they said, he would 100% be alive today
 
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bamawriter said:
There were no security cameras on the property at which they saw him. A person who may or may not have been him was seen on security cameras in the neighborhood at completely different points in time.
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the homeowner said that the camera FROM that DAY showed Arbery on his dock and property. the DA has that footage and i assume the GBI does too
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Doyou deny that there is a pretty good chance at least 1 or 2 of the shots occurred during the struggle and may have been caused by the suspect himself?
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Absolutely. They occurred because dumbass got out of his truck with a shotgun while claiming he just wanted to talk. If he just wanted to talk he'd have left the shotgun in the damn truck.
 
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VolStrom said:
Okay, change it to why do you kill people?
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? I was just pointing out the media again directing the story to the most sympathetic that stirs anger and emotion just like they did with Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin.

Doesn't mean he deserved to be killed, just another example of media bias and here to stir things up.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
so 911 forged their calls?
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Have you heard the transcripts? Do they support that the men were on the phone with them WHILE the altercation was happening? Is the runner under any obligation to take them at their word?
 
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Bigun said:
? I was just pointing out the media again directing the story to the most sympathetic that stirs anger and emotion just like they did with Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin.

Doesn't mean he deserved to be killed, just another example of media bias and here to stir things up.
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exactly...it's a common pattern, someone doing something they weren't supposed to, ramps up a stupid thing to a physical altercation, gets shot because of it, but because of race, some will portray him as a "gentle giant", "he was going to college", "he was an avid jogger running for his future" etc. none of which is true
 
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Weezer said:
Have you heard the transcripts? Do they support that the men were on the phone with them WHILE the altercation was happening? Is the runner under any obligation to take them at their word?
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no, the runner could have ran away or ignored them a million times if he wanted to...but he chose to run up and escalate to violence.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
who said that? i never did, i think he physically assaulted a guy and tried to take his gun and that led him to be shot, either during the struggle or purposefully in self-defense.

He made a very dumb decision to attempt that assault and made a dumb situation even dumber by physical violence..

If he had either kept running away or waited on the police as they said, he would 100% be alive today
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You keep making the runner out to be the idiot while ignoring the mountain of idiocy engaged in by the two men. Idiocy that led to the runner being killed.
 
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Weezer said:
He already tried to flee once but that didn't stop their pursuit. Why would he believe dodging again would work? They've already demonstrated they will pursue.
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Yes, they were following him. I imagine they'd state that's what they were doing. And that's all they'd done up to that point.

If they wanted to shoot him, assault him, ect there was opportunity to do so. But imo, there was no escalation to violence until he attacked the guy holding a shotgun. If it's me, I'm getting off the road and make them chase me on foot.

As I said before, the video is hardly enough to make a definite accusation either way. You can't hear what's been said. And you can't even follow what's happening because so much is missed when it shakes left and right.
 
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