The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

[Behr]

I just don’t know if chasing a man who’s been trespassing multiple times is something I’m willing to convict someone of.

You left of the killing him part.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

honestly, I go back and forth on that. There intent wasn’t to kill him and he does seem to initiate the physical altercation.

You can pretend these details don’t matter, but when ultimately they do. If he had been an innocent jogger, we would all be for conviction. I do support there being a trial so more info can come to light. Right now, idk if I’d be willing to convict them if I were on that jury.

According to Ricky (so take this with a grain of salt),that neighborhood only had one entrance in/out. So maybe he got as far as he knew he could at that critical moment (maybe he was looking further ahead as he was running on the passenger side of the truck)and decided to take a stand right there in the street.

 

[1972 Grad]

See, I don't care if he was jogging or casing the place out to rob. Neither one of those matter from where I sit. If he had been arrested and we were talking about his punishment then it might matter. But its already been decided. They thought he might have been planning to steal something, so they killed him.

He won't look like he's gonna attempt to steal anything again. Fosho.

I think his death is due partly to his actions and partly to the chasers. Without both, we wouldn't be discussing it.

 

[1972 Grad]

You left of the killing him part.

I see that as a totally different act, brought on by the actions of both sides.

 

[Behr]

I don't think anybody has said that anybody deserved to die for 5 shoplifting convictions or being in a house.

Oh. What are we arguing?

 

[Behr]

I think his death is due partly to his actions and partly to the chasers. Without both, we wouldn't be discussing it.

Obviously.

 

[1972 Grad]

Oh. What are we arguing?

I'm saying that the death wasn't planned in any way, shape or form. It just happened due to the situation and the actions of both sides.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Most people who have no training or life experience being in a life and death situation are just going to stand there frozen. It happened to me. Luckily, the shooter was a terrible shot. He did several years in the pen. I got a permit, started shooting, and taking classes here and there. Even so, I am not 100% sure what would happen if I was in that situation again.

 

[1972 Grad]

Oh. What are we arguing?

It seems to me that you think these guys were out hunting black people for sport.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I think his death is due partly to his actions and partly to the chasers. Without both, we wouldn't be discussing it.

No reasonable person would argue any differently.

 

[1972 Grad]

No reasonable person would argue any differently.

Some people on here seem to think that he was killed to add to their total of black scalps on their living room wall. I don't buy that.

 

[bamawriter]

Some people on here seem to think that he was killed to add to their total of black scalps on their living room wall. I don't buy that.

I haven't seen anyone argue that. Don't wail away at that strawman.

 

[k-town_king]

As more info comes out is there a single person who actually believes the families narrative that he was just a sweet young man who likes to jog?

Or can we all agree he was clearly looking for something to steal and took off running when confronted?

Once again, everyone’s first clue something was off should’ve been the high school senior pic the media was using for a man who’s closer to 30 than 20

None of that stuff happened. Why lie?

The home belonged to the man with them who was filming. Out of curiosity why did you believe they were chasing if they were unaware?

Another lie. The homeowners said they had no part in this and don't know the murderers or the guy who filmed who many want charged too. They also did not think it was him on the camera.

I think his death is due partly to his actions and partly to the chasers. Without both, we wouldn't be discussing it.

I bet. Good people on both sides huh. lmao

 

[1972 Grad]

None of that stuff happened. Why lie?



Another lie. The homeowners said they had no part in this and don't know the murderers or the guy who filmed who many want charged too. They also did not think it was him on the camera.



I bet. Good people on both sides huh. lmao

So, you think that he would have been shot had he not tried to grab the gun?

 

[1972 Grad]

I haven't seen anyone argue that. Don't wail away at that strawman.

Look at the post below yours.

 

[bamawriter]

Look at the post below yours.

Unless I have someone on ignore that I can't see, the post below mine says nothing about the McMichaels setting with the intent to kill a black man.

 

[bamawriter]

So, you think that he would have been shot had he not tried to grab the gun?

I don't know that he would have been shot had he not grabbed the gun.

I do know that it doesn't matter when determining criminal responsibility.

 

[k-town_king]

So, you think that he would have been shot had he not tried to grab the gun?

We have no way of knowing but it is a reasonable assumption with the hit squad chasing him down like this is 1934.

They cornered him and threatened him with a weapon. Of course you try to grab the gun. You don't just stand there and let them shoot you. Or are you that big a punk that you would just lay down and let them kill you without fighting back?

 

[Vol8188]

None of that stuff happened. Why lie?



Another lie. The homeowners said they had no part in this and don't know the murderers or the guy who filmed who many want charged too. They also did not think it was him on the camera.



I bet. Good people on both sides huh. lmao

What am I lying about? He was what, 26 yet they use his high school photo? He was seen in the home multiple times. His aunt confirmed it was him according to the liberal Daily Beast. What’re you accusing me of lying about?

 

[Vol8188]

You left of the killing him part.

I did. Because he has some level of responsibility in that himself.

 

[Behr]

It seems to me that you think these guys were out hunting black people for sport.

Yea, I'm not even interested in how you came to that stupid conclusion.

So, I thought you didn't care about this story. What changed your mind?

 

[Vol8188]

I don't know that he would have been shot had he not grabbed the gun.

I do know that it doesn't matter when determining criminal responsibility.

was it you who asked for the video of him in the home? I found it here. Shows him inside both the day of and on previous nights.

 

[Vol8188]

Yea, I'm not even interested in how you came to that stupid conclusion.

So, I thought you didn't care about this story. What changed your mind?

Because that’s the media narrative. The idea that LeBron was claiming that you can’t jog while black.

 

[82_VOL_83]

If you are referring to me, I have never entertained the hunting black folks scenario. You need to think more clearly.

I'm sorry, I was referencing this post.....just has a "they were out to kill the black dude" feel to it:

Bull$hit. That's the worse excuse I've heard from you. You cannot say that with any kind of certainty. Why did those two mouth breathers bring guns to the confrontation in the first place? If there weren't any guns at the scene of that confrontation, then Arbery would still be alive.

This post is exactly is why people are discrediting you in this thread. You desperately want to defend the perps and throw shade on the victim.

 

[Behr]

Because that’s the media narrative. The idea that LeBron was claiming that you can’t jog while black.

What part of my post are you answering for him?