The "Occupy" Rallies

#951
#951
VOLatile said:
No specific outcome. Cannot answer the second question without knowing what the consequences will be. Hopefully the mighty will fall, though. The power should shift back to the people, not to the corporations. I guess that would be the outcome I'd like to see.

I'm slightly demented. A non-violent revolution would be best, but less effective.
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Do you work for anything that could be called a corporation?
 
#953
#953
VOLatile said:
I'm not advocating for wealth redistribution, I'm advocating for the removal of wealth as a voice. Whether rich or poor, each voice should be equal. Do you classify that as wealth redistribution or just equalization?



Seems as though we've strayed from our original vision to begin with.
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The solution to most economic problems is a truly free 'free market'. This is also the case when it comes to a large number of political problems.

The way to eliminate (or at least lessen) the effects of money on politics is not to try and restrict it, since people will always find ways around restrictions. The way to effectively eliminate it is to make the money powerless.

If the government didn't stick its nose into the market, then no one in the market would feel the need to bribe politicians to slant laws or regulations their way.

If we had a simple tax code that didn't try to favor anyone or guide social issues based on some peoples preferences, then there would be no need to bribe politicians.

If we kept our military down to the size we actually need it to be to defend us, rather than try to police the world, then we would greatly lessen the incentive to bribe politicians.

If there were no bailouts to favorite companies or protectionist trade policies or subsidies to certain industries, then there would be no need to bribe politicians.

I could keep going on. It all comes down to this, most of the legitimate grievances that OWS folks have would go away if the government would stay out of things that are none of its business.
 
#954
#954
RespectTradition said:
The solution to most economic problems is a truly free 'free market'. This is also the case when it comes to a large number of political problems.

The way to eliminate (or at least lessen) the effects of money on politics is not to try and restrict it, since people will always find ways around restrictions. The way to effectively eliminate it is to make the money powerless.

If the government didn't stick its nose into the market, then no one in the market would feel the need to bribe politicians to slant laws or regulations their way.

If we had a simple tax code that didn't try to favor anyone or guide social issues based on some peoples preferences, then there would be no need to bribe politicians.

If we kept our military down to the size we actually need it to be to defend us, rather than try to police the world, then we would greatly lessen the incentive to bribe politicians.

If there were no bailouts to favorite companies or protectionist trade policies or subsidies to certain industries, then there would be no need to bribe politicians.

I could keep going on. It all comes down to this, most of the legitimate grievances that OWS folks have would go away if the government would stay out of things that are none of its business.
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Yep, change the tax code and most of it goes away. They won't do it because they couldn't steal, bribe and rob us all blind behind our backs. Government has become too big and is unsustainable at the current rate. They're just as much a part of that 1 percent as the greedy rich people the occupiers are protesting against.
 
#955
#955
So occupy Portland is going on about two blocks from my apartment and the cops are all out trying to break this thing up. Been a pretty constant helicopter buzz going on for a few hours.
 
#956
#956
One police officer was hit by a bottle and was taken to the hospital with a very minor injury. The crowd immediately turned in the offender and he was arrested.

The crowd has managed to push the police line back and aren't going anywhere.
 
#957
#957
milohimself said:
One police officer was hit by a bottle and was taken to the hospital with a very minor injury. The crowd immediately turned in the offender and he was arrested.

The crowd has managed to push the police line back and aren't going anywhere.
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I heard the police ran a bulldozer right through the camp in Salt Lake City. Taking it pretty extreme. Look for more escalations if the police keep using unnecessary force.
 
#958
#958
Drove by Occupy DC camps. Yes they are in 2 locations near the WH. One camp is much smaller but the total amount of protesters was no more than 300 between the 2. I saw a lot of small children which is disturbing b/c those camps are ripe for disease and TB.
 
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#966
#966
"Matthew Schmidt carried a sign that reads "Greed does not equal love" as he marched."

Seriously? WTF. Idiots.
 
#967
#967
-- At about the same time, a contingent of protesters decided to storm City Hall, but unknowingly ran to the Department of Education building on Chambers Street. Once there, they comically chanted, “Bloomberg must go! Bloomberg must go!”

Finally, one of the clueless demonstrators realized the mistake and told the others: “This isn’t City Hall?”

They then ran to 1 Centre Street, where one exclaimed: “There it is! That’s City Hall!” and the chanting resumed.
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that's funny stuff
 
#968
#968
bamawriter said:
Jingoistic and blindly adherent > violent and unsanitary.
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The violence... I can at least wrap my head around that. Most demonstrations around the world usually have violence associated with them.

It is the added unsanitary twist that baffles the hell out of me. It speaks volumes about the type of people that are doing the protesting.

Cleanliness is next to godliness. :unsure:
 
#969
#969
The most ironic thing in all this is the little brainwashed morons holding up pro marxist signs.

It they tried this sort of crap in a marxist state they would be shipped off to a reeducation work camp for five years with little chance of survival.

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#974
#974
Someone on their website wants to occupy the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. What a completely stupid move that would be...
 
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